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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
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Posted on 03/10/2004 9:37:27 PM PST by malakhi

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To: Alex Murphy; CindyDawg
My under the understnading was that drstevej had a meltdown on the a thread that was pulled!

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3,741 posted on 04/12/2004 2:15:01 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
The only thing we disagree about is that Jesus is the messiah.

Oh.... Well... If that's the only thing.

lol.

3,742 posted on 04/12/2004 2:17:00 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: restornu
My under the understnading was that drstevej had a meltdown on the a thread that was pulled!

Unless I'm mistaken, didn't that thread only last a half-dozen posts or so before it was pulled? What did drstevej say? How was it a meltdown?

You could be right, but from what I am told, drstevej has yet to be given an official explanation for this particular suspension. In other words, no specific posts have been cited as the reason. No Mod has stepped forward and said "I did it, and here's why". The unofficial abuse mentioned most often, from what I have heard, was his "fundraiser" posts to this thread. And you'd have to admit that they were tame by comparison to some of his other stuff.

3,743 posted on 04/12/2004 2:22:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: IMRight
Oh.... Well... If that's the only thing.

He doesn't think Jesus is God. Is that ok with you now? Because it wasn't before.

3,744 posted on 04/12/2004 2:24:22 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: IMRight
What's your problem? It IS funny that someone could reject a set of beliefs and yet continue to use the partisan websites of the beliefs (s)he no longer holds.

I reject the RCC as the One Holy..... yet I continue to accept most of what she believes and teaches. Do you find that funny? I read and will quote the Catholic Encyclopedia. Do you find that funny? I read and will quote the Catholic Catechism. Do you find that funny?

What I see is you and some of your "friends" going out of your way to ridicule a person because of his or her honest search for the truth.

It makes no difference whether you agree with the person or his/her choices, it is just another opportunity for you to jump on with your snide remarks, "humor" and ridicule.

In the event you are wondering, that's my problem.

3,745 posted on 04/12/2004 2:25:14 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: IMRight
tell ya what. just read the article and you can discuss our credibility later. I bet you're scared.
3,746 posted on 04/12/2004 2:25:40 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: RnMomof7; CindyDawg

Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

anyone homeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

PASS OVER! (non-kosher!:)

I hears voice but there no one there ................

I am singing in te rain.........................

zippy doodah.............zippy day...............

lets all go out and play!


3,747 posted on 04/12/2004 2:35:49 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: OLD REGGIE
I reject the RCC as the One Holy.....

Boy... we're just FULL of new announcements here.. < /sarcasm>

yet I continue to accept most of what she believes and teaches.

Ummm. No. It does not appear that you do. Certainly not on a "weighted average". The points assigned to "Jesus is God" throw your average WAY off.

What I see is you and some of your "friends" going out of your way to ridicule a person because of his or her honest search for the truth.

Not at all... I ridicule jab him on this topic because it is the easiest knock on him (today). I will pick something new to tease him about tomorrow.

However - I continue to hold that an "honest search for the truth" always leads to Christ. I don't insist that you agree.

it is just another opportunity for you to jump on with your snide remarks,

Reg - if we took away your ability to post "snide remarks" everyone would assume you had been banned. Lighten up.

3,748 posted on 04/12/2004 2:35:55 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: Quester; RnMomof7; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
You can deny whatever you wish as long as you want to whomever you choose.

That doesn't change the fact that what you say is incorrect.

During the very early morning hours of Easter, late Saturday night, the Lead Moderator came onto the thread and expelled three Calvinists. At that point, the Lead Moderator THREATENED ALL CALVINISTS WITH PERMANENT EXPULSION FROM FREE REPUBLIC.

It's to FR's credit that this threat was taken seriously by us. We don't want to shut down any threads, and we don't want to be kicked off the forum.

Questions and rumblings followed by all parties still on line. I then posted A RESPONSE TO THE MODERATOR who was addressing all Calvinists in his post. I did that out of courtesy as much as anything else.

But YOU, Quester, have admitted you spoke with the moderator that night.

By your own words, YOU were the one who brought the Moderators in, and did so because of some peculiar, self-described "conspiracy."

If you keep up this maligning of motives and twisting of facts, then, in Christian concern, I have to question your motives.

3,749 posted on 04/12/2004 2:39:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Ok, I read it. It's filled with "may"s and "might"s and "maybe"s on the issue. He seems to dance around the key part of the verse (hanging on the tense of Abraham's existence and not the "I am").

Not very compelling - whether you agree with him today or not.

3,750 posted on 04/12/2004 2:49:00 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight
Not very compelling - whether you agree with him today or not.

Why don't you just keep your snide remarks to yourself. I'm getting sick of them.

3,751 posted on 04/12/2004 2:50:27 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: IMRight
Reg - if we took away your ability to post "snide remarks" everyone would assume you had been banned. Lighten up.

Snide remarks - yes! Snippy - yes! Sarcastic - yes! I think what you are missing is I have never made fun of anyone who has undergone a conversion.

From my personal experience that is a difficult thing to do and can result in painful disruptions in marriages and with the family. It is not something to make fun of. Smarten up.

It's too bad you can't find the millions of "Christians" who have just dropped out in disgust with their Church. Imagine how much "fun" you could have with them.

3,752 posted on 04/12/2004 2:54:54 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Wow thanks

Big Mack!

Just because I get along with ONE that is ONE Calvinist at least she now and than answers my reply don't treat me like I have kooties!

BTW we are women of the same age and have someother things in common!

I am nice to many folks some just ignore my replies for fear if they answer a darl cloud is going to hang over them!


Sometimes user friendly is .....!

3,753 posted on 04/12/2004 3:05:12 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: SoothingDave
Very good advice, Dave. Very soothing.
3,754 posted on 04/12/2004 3:10:18 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
But YOU, Quester, have admitted you spoke with the moderator that night.

By your own words, YOU were the one who brought the Moderators in, and did so because of some peculiar, self-described "conspiracy."


Oh give it a rest.

You can't possibly be this dense.

I responded to JimRob's warning that he was considering shutting down the thread.

Obviously, the mod's were already here by that time.

3,755 posted on 04/12/2004 3:11:04 PM PDT by Quester (I just have this thing about accuracy.)
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To: restornu; CindyDawg; drstevej
My under the understnading was that drstevej had a meltdown on the a thread that was pulled!

Thanks to a friend, I've now had a chance to review the posts on that pulled thread. drstevej never posted to that thread, despite your accusations Restornu. Who told you he "had a meltdown"? Why are you participating in spreading falsehoods and slander about him?

I strongly urge you to ping the mods on yourself, and pull your post #3741.

3,756 posted on 04/12/2004 3:14:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; Alex Murphy; RnMomof7; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; HarleyD; Gamecock; ...
Altogether now. "...yes, they'll know we are christians by our love. puke.

Ah, so THIS is what you guys meant by describing the NES as a friendly, gracious, open, respectful, intelligent thread.

Fog lifting...clouds parting...

Clarity, at last.

3,757 posted on 04/12/2004 3:19:12 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Snide remarks - yes! Snippy - yes! Sarcastic - yes! I think what you are missing is I have never made fun of anyone who has undergone a conversion.

Right! You limit your insults to those who have maintained one faith their entire life.

3,758 posted on 04/12/2004 3:23:15 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: Alex Murphy
My understanding that thread was over 200 when I saw it was about 13 post, than I heard it was gone and did get around 200 hits!

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Get over yourself Alex, meltdown means you got suspended/banned!

So if it wasn't that thread, it was some thread the meltdown happen!:)

3,759 posted on 04/12/2004 3:25:49 PM PDT by restornu (Discerning eyes can read it in the ether!:)
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To: Quester; RnMomof7
Give it a rest.

As soon as you stop pinging me, I'd be HAPPY to. (Your quest is obviously leading you in circles.)

You can try to spin reality any way you want.

Anyone with the patience to read back through these posts can plainly see how the night unfolded and what was said when.

Now, if this thread is mysteriously pulled at this point, my conspiracy radar will go into over-drive, wondering if YOU had the thread pulled in order to cover the truth.

So again, no Calvinist hits the abuse button nor gets threads pulled. And we only ping Mods in response to THEIR summons.

Whatever number this post ends up, I'm going to remember it.

3,760 posted on 04/12/2004 3:33:13 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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