EU ministers discuss Europe's religious faiths

The Portuguese News (English) ^ | JMJ+8 Nov A.D. 2003 | staff

[Maeve]

MAIN - 08/11/2003

EU ministers discuss Europe's religious faiths

Following on the "Congress on The Future of God" held at the Shrine of Fátima in October, EU interior ministers met in Rome last week to map out proposals on how to better integrate Europe's major religions.

The meeting came in the wake of an Italian court ruling forbidding a school from displaying a crucifix in its assembly hall because it was considered to be an affront to Muslim pupils. The father of one of the Muslim children had told the court that his son had felt intimidated by the crucifix.

The 15 interior ministers were told that the future of Europe depended on member states promoting understanding and respect for all religions. The Italian Interior Minister, Guiseppe Pisanusad, told the conference: "The dialogue among the three great monotheistic religions can play a fundamental role in integrating immigrants into European society." He said that the state certainly had the right to demand "adhesion" to its civic ordinances and policies, but it also had a duty to respect the cultural and religious values of new arrivals.

The conference was attended by the head of the Paris Mosque, Dalil Boubaker, and the Catholic Archbishop Antonio Llovera. The leader of the German Jewish community, Charlotte Knobloch, was also present together with the Anglican Bishop Christopher Herbert and Bishop Athanasius Shatzopoulos, who represented the Orthodox churches.

In his address to the conference the French interior minister, Jacques de Monteforte, said that France was in the process of drawing up new laws on the public display of religious insignia including crucifixes and pictures of Christian saints. In keeping with last month's Fátima congress, which called for the development of a "One World Religion" where individual faiths can live side-by-side under one umbrella, the interior ministers called for a coming together of European religions to establish peace and prosperity in the European Union.

Religious observers at the conference suggested that there should be a sharing of mosques, Christian church buildings and other places of worship between the various faiths. They pointed to the example set by Pope John Paul II in Assisi in 1986 when he encouraged the leaders of the world's religions, including Buddhists and Muslims, to celebrate their religious ceremonies in the city's Catholic churches.

[Maeve]

This is a follow-up story to the previous abomination posted earlier about transforming Fatima into an "interfaith Shrine". Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for us.

[Maeve]

Work of the Devil PART II ALERT

[Unam Sanctam]

In keeping with last month's Fátima congress, which called for the development of a "One World Religion" where individual faiths can live side-by-side under one umbrella, the interior ministers called for a coming together of European religions to establish peace and prosperity in the European Union. Religious observers at the conference suggested that there should be a sharing of mosques, Christian church buildings and other places of worship between the various faiths.

No, no, no! To force religions to unite is to deny human rights. Freedom of religion and conscience is nothing if one's religion is forcibly melded with another. Religions have every right to have as exclusive and non-left-wing belief systems as they want, so long as others in society are not physically harmed. And a one-off ecumenical event is no excuse for permanent use of worship places by different faiths.

[Maeve]

The FreeRepublic URL for the story on transforming FATIMA into an "interfaith shrine": http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1016191/posts

[malakhi]

No, no, no! To force religions to unite is to deny human rights. Freedom of religion and conscience is nothing if one's religion is forcibly melded with another. Religions have every right to have as exclusive and non-left-wing belief systems as they want, so long as others in society are not physically harmed. And a one-off ecumenical event is no excuse for permanent use of worship places by different faiths.

I agree. "Real" Jews don't want to be a part of "One World Religion" any more than "Real" Christians do.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

In keeping with last month's Fátima congress, which called for the development of a "One World Religion" where individual faiths can live side-by-side under one umbrella, the interior ministers called for a coming together of European religions to establish peace and prosperity in the European Union.

Religious observers at the conference suggested that there should be a sharing of mosques, Christian church buildings and other places of worship between the various faiths. They pointed to the example set by Pope John Paul II in Assisi in 1986 when he encouraged the leaders of the world's religions, including Buddhists and Muslims, to celebrate their religious ceremonies in the city's Catholic churches.

This sort of crud deserves a major puke alert.

[OpusatFR]

Does this mean I can say the rosary in a mosque?

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Does this mean I can say the rosary in a mosque?

Why not? I said the Rosary in the great Mosque of Delhi when I was there. Of course, it was for the intention of the conversion of the pagan Hindu and idolator Muslims in that country and the change of that Mosque into a Church.

[livius]

You're absolutely right. Work of the Devil.

One of the many bothersome aspects of all this is that it seems to have been done so quietly - I notice that the article was from August, but I certainly don't recall reading anything about the event at that time.

I think that's probably going to be their tactic in the future: quietly do awful things, and then let them seep out when it's too late to do anything about them.

[livius]

Ooops! I just realized that even though it's an English language paper, they're using the European date convention - so it would have been Nov. 8, not Aug. 11!

Still, I don't recall reading any advance announcements about this event, and I think it is definitely a fact that many of these things will simply happen quietly.

[sockmonkey]

I found this at Yahoo:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031030/ap_on_re_eu/eu_religious_conference_1
But I didn't find anything about the Fatima Meeting on Yahoo.

[BlessedBeGod]

It'll be interesting to see the reaction of the people in the pews to the results of these meetings of their "leaders."

[ladyinred]

. The father of one of the Muslim children had told the court that his son had felt intimidated by the crucifix.

And that's a bad thing?

[narses]

Ping.

[Dajjal]

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

What?...[fnord]...We don't need any Our-Lady-the-Great-Gaia-Mother-Earth-Goddess of Sock Puppet Therapy. But, gee, how to explain that to the Buddhaists and Gaians?

[raph]

What is happening at the Fatima Shrine should not be surprising. I highly recommend the reading of THE DEVIL'S FINAL BATTLE. This book includes the papal warnings against liberalism and modernism; the detailed masonic plans to subvert the Church; seminary infiltration by Communists; the failure to release the Third Secret; the Fatima revisionist propaganda campaign. etc. This book tells where we are (as Catholics); how we got there; where we are going. Visit the book's website.