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Darwin, Design & Democracy IV: Responding to the AAAS Decree Against ID
http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/june_symposim.htm ^

Posted on 11/05/2003 5:29:49 AM PST by truthfinder9

All day Saturday, November 15, 2003

Most of science is an objective search for the truth.

However, the Board of Directors of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) seems to abandon that concept when the discussion turns to the question of our origin. Only one answer is allowed - naturalistic evolution.

On October 18, 2002, the AAAS Board decreed that all public schools and AAAS members should censor and suppress the scientific challenge to the naturalistic explanation of our origin - Intelligent Design. Darwinists claim that life is not designed. Other scientists disagree. The AAAS, in a curiously unscientific fashion, seeks to suppress that scientific disagreement. WHY?

The fourth annual symposium on Intelligent Design, DDD IV, will address that question with 18 experts in biochemistry, neuro science, cosmology, physics, chemistry, geology, philosophy, theology and the law.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: creation; darwinsim; evolution; intelligentdesign
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1 posted on 11/05/2003 5:29:49 AM PST by truthfinder9
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To: truthfinder9
"WHY?"

Because naturalistic evolution pretends to explain how there could be life without a God, and they really, really, *really* don't want there to be a God.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 5:56:47 AM PST by dsc
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To: dsc
YEC INTREP - mega-dittoes!
3 posted on 11/05/2003 7:57:06 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper

Take away people's guns (( hard )) on the FR is a no - no ...

take away their minds (( easy )) via evolution --- must - must !

Why would the 1st matter ... skip it ?
4 posted on 11/05/2003 8:28:51 AM PST by f.Christian (( Alpha - Omega Design - Architecture ... designeduniverse.com --- Science3000 ! ))
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To: f.Christian
The liberals are running the media - schools ... higher education --- writing history - science ...

mind rabies -- evolution !

Even working hard on the FR too !

No wonder !
5 posted on 11/05/2003 8:45:45 AM PST by f.Christian (( Alpha - Omega Design - Architecture ... designeduniverse.com --- Science3000 ! ))
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To: truthfinder9
Most of science is an objective search for the truth.

Yes, and to get somewhere in finding the truth, you have to discard the false.

"There are no transitional forms." FALSE.

"The second law of thermodynamics forbids the evolution of complexity." FALSE.

"Complex structures with lots of internal inter-dependencies cannot have evolved." FALSE.

"The Cambrian Explosion disproves evolution." FALSE.

... And so forth. ID has nothing to offer but retreaded creationist propaganda.
6 posted on 11/05/2003 8:47:25 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro

7 posted on 11/05/2003 8:51:57 AM PST by f.Christian (( Alpha - Omega Design - Architecture ... designeduniverse.com --- Science3000 ! ))
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To: truthfinder9
In this day and age, people should not still be explaining this kind of thing. After all, nobody ever has to explain why fire is not some phlogiston rushing out of the burning substance. The same should be true of the crap the Discovery Institute is pushing. (I think maybe no major religious text ever embraced the phlogiston theory of fire, which is why it went away so quietly when Lavoisier documented oxidation.)
8 posted on 11/05/2003 8:54:29 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
"There are no transitional forms." FALSE.

If that is the case, please identify even one. I suggest you not go down that road because if you do, I will make you look really stupid.

9 posted on 11/05/2003 9:24:11 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: f.Christian
I like how Politicians are considered lower than Neanderthals on your evolutionary tree.

Sadly, I don't find a rung for Network Television Producers. Maybe they're off the (bottom of the) charts, having never evolved past the form of Primordial Slime.

10 posted on 11/05/2003 10:01:34 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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To: Alex Murphy
At the bottom is the nea ... aclu --- dept of education !
11 posted on 11/05/2003 10:36:09 AM PST by f.Christian (( Alpha - Omega Design - Architecture ... designeduniverse.com --- Science3000 ! ))
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To: VadeRetro
Yes, and to get somewhere in finding the truth, you have to discard the false.

However, so much of the reported findings are merely opinion, isn't it true? And opininions, like fashion, come and go. Today's "truth" is tomorrow's faux pas.

12 posted on 11/05/2003 2:30:26 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: connectthedots; VadeRetro
What do the scientists in evolution consider transitional forms? Isn't it true not even one skeleton of a something morphing into another something has never been found?
13 posted on 11/05/2003 2:33:18 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: Markofhumanfeet
However, so much of the reported findings are merely opinion, isn't it true? And opininions, like fashion, come and go. Today's "truth" is tomorrow's faux pas.

That we aren't still living in the kind of world in which my grandfather (born in 1879) grew up is not because of fluctuations in opinion. Science evaluates the data, gathers more data, and re-evaluates.

Science doesn't change its "opinion" lightly at all, it does so under the pressure of facts. Hard facts are the engine of scientific change.

The history of science is a convergence upon an increasingly accurate description of nature. That should be obvious. What disturbs me is that many people of a creation/ID stripe seem ready to chuck a thousand years or so of accumulated work, eager to believe that it's all a house of cards ready to come crashing down. The attitude is lamentable.

14 posted on 11/05/2003 2:43:51 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Markofhumanfeet
What do the scientists in evolution consider transitional forms?

Some prominent examples.

Isn't it true not even one skeleton of a something morphing into another something has never been found?

Most fossils just lay there, yes. However, many fossils are intermediate in form between those found earlier and later. The fossil record outlines a branching tree of life much like those derived from studying the morphology of currently extant life and (more recently) molecular biology.

Darwin, faced with a much, much less complete fossil record in 1859 than we have now, was reduced to predicting that a lot of intermediates must have existed and would turn up when more of the world was investigated. Many scoffed, but he was right. Virtually all of the previous examples are post-Darwin. If he wasn't right, he was the luckiest charlatan in history. How did he do that?

15 posted on 11/05/2003 2:52:33 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
What disturbs me is that many people of a creation/ID stripe seem ready to chuck a thousand years or so of accumulated work, eager to believe that it's all a house of cards ready to come crashing down. The attitude is lamentable.

Yet many people of the evolution stripe see nothing wrong in chucking 6000, and especially the last 2000 years of God's work, years that have benefitted and brought civilization to the point where it is possible to have a country such as the US of A and why do you not then find that lamentable?

16 posted on 11/05/2003 3:01:06 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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Yet many people of the evolution stripe see nothing wrong in chucking 6000, and especially the last 2000 years of God's work, years that have benefitted and brought civilization to the point where it is possible to have a country such as the US of A and why do you not then find that lamentable?

To me at least, evolution is a theory that describes the origin of the diversity of life on earth. The history of the earth is what it is. Most people can handle the truth.

17 posted on 11/05/2003 3:09:46 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
The same should be true of the crap the Discovery Institute is pushing.

Thanks for your unbiased scientific opinion.

18 posted on 11/05/2003 3:29:58 PM PST by Dataman
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To: VadeRetro
To me at least, evolution is a theory that describes the origin of the diversity of life on earth. The history of the earth is what it is. Most people can handle the truth.

All it is then, is a worldview that you can live with. I take it that spiritual things are of no concern to you? You yourself, may consider the theory "truth", but your opinion does not necessarily make it so. Even if it be the opinion of all the world, we must say to you as Peter said to the unbelievers, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye, for we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

Out of curiosity, would you die to support your theory of evolution?

19 posted on 11/05/2003 3:31:47 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: VadeRetro
What disturbs me is that many people of a creation/ID stripe seem ready to chuck a thousand years or so of accumulated work,

Statements like that don't exactly enhance your credibility.

20 posted on 11/05/2003 3:31:49 PM PST by Dataman
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