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A Cardinal to Watch
The National Revire Online ^ | 10/21/03 | Father Raymond J. de Souza

Posted on 10/21/2003 10:14:01 AM PDT by dangus

Cardinals to Watch Will a Canadian be the next pope?

By Father Raymond J. de Souza

VATICAN CITY — Among the "red hats" going out to 30 new cardinals today at St. Peter's Square, Canada's newest cardinal, Archbishop Marc Ouellet of Quebec City will be getting a lot of special attention.

While has spent the last week here continually relating his surprise at being named a cardinal, and laughing out loud at any mention that he may one day be elected pope, not everyone finds the concept risible.

At least one of his fellow new cardinals has said — off the record of course, as a certain decorum is maintained on the matter of papal succession — that Cardinal Ouellet has all the qualities to be elected pope, except that he is so new.

"New" is actually an understatement. Just three years ago, Father Marc Ouellet was teaching theology in Rome, after having served previously as the head of seminaries in Montreal and Edmonton. He was told in March 2001 that he would be ordained a bishop and appointed second-in-command of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity — with only two weeks' notice. After less than two years in that job, he was appointed archbishop of Quebec City — a clear indication that Quebec was a special priority in the eyes of the Holy See. And now a cardinal. Meteoric does not begin to describe the rise.

What next?

That's the question being discussed in Rome this past week, as Pope John Paul has presided over his anniversary ceremonies in a remarkably weaker condition than he was in last spring. The cardinals — again off the record — speak frankly that they need, as responsible electors, to talk with each other about the future. But at this stage the talk is not so much about who specifically should be the next pope — there will be time enough for that — but rather what kind of pope the Catholic Church needs.

Leaving aside all speculation about the next pope, that is why Cardinal Ouellet is getting so much attention in Rome. He is, many Vatican officials and visiting cardinals and bishops say, the kind of man the Church is looking for. Whether he will be in fact be that man is really a secondary question — at least for now.

The anniversary celebrations have been a way of illustrating what kind of man John Paul's successor has to be. First, a Christian disciple of deep prayer and an ability to make great sacrifices for the gospel. John Paul's old age has highlighted this aspect of the papal "job description" moreso than his early years of frenetic activity.

Second, a world-class intellect which can provide the necessary theological leadership in a world in which errors get equal time with the truth on the Internet, a media world where all ideas claim equal authority.

Third, a gifted communicator who can make relevant the truths of the faith in a compelling way in the media age. This is what the cardinals mean when they talk about John Paul's "public presence".

Fourth, a man who is so transparent with the joy of the gospel that he can say that the answer to every human problem is, as John Paul said famously 25 years ago tomorrow, "to open wide the doors to Christ."

And he has to be a linguist.

Is Ouellet that kind of man? The polyglot's spiritual and intellectual resources are beyond doubt. His ability to communicate the faith appears strong, though he is so new that it will take time to tell.

Ouellet is getting major attention here because he seems to be that kind of man, and electors who point to him as papabile (literally, "pope-able") are using a kind of shorthand to say what the Church needs in this moment.

There are other stars amongst the new cardinals, including Angelo Scola of Venice, Bernard Panafieu of Marseille, and George Pell of Sydney, not to mention less-new cardinals. Like Ouellet, to say whether they are papabili is, at this point, rank speculation.

Yet the cardinals to watch are the ones who are already being watched by their brother cardinals and Vatican observers. Many factors go into choosing a pope — age, geography, personal charisma, relations with the others in the college. The immediate run-up to a papal conclave will focus on much of that. This period is for something more preliminary — the determination of what kind of pope is needed.

Cardinal Ouellet's prominence seems to suggest that whether or not he becomes the first pope from the new world, whoever succeeds John Paul will be a man like him.

— Father Raymond J. de Souza, a chaplain at Queen's University in Ontario is covering the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II, the beatification of Mother Teresa, and associated events from Rome for the National Post and Fox News.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: archbishop; canadian; cardinalouellet; cardinals; romancatholic
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; sinkspur; dangus
von Balthasar's theory is built on nothing more than his ignorance of scripture - or maybe being of the "New Theology" school, he never accepted the inerrancy of scripture.

The letter of Jude is very clear that souls are already burning eternally in hell:

Jude 6 "And the angels who kept not their principality, but forsook their own habitation, he hath reserved under darkness in everlasting chains, unto the judgment of the great day.
7 As Sodom and Gomorrha, and the neighbouring cities, in like manner, having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, were made an example, suffering the PUNISHMENT OF ETERNAL FIRE."

Note bene! This is not some temporary infernal punishment, it is ETERNAL FIRE.

This is more than sufficient to give the lie to von Balthasar's crackpot, acedia-inducing heresy. He and von Speyr were dangerous fools who had been lured by satan's false promises:

Gen 3,4 "And the serpent said to the woman: No, you shall not die the death."
41 posted on 10/21/2003 2:04:29 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: dangus
Hans Urs von Baltar?


42 posted on 10/21/2003 2:06:10 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: Tantumergo
This is more than sufficient to give the lie to von Balthasar's crackpot, acedia-inducing heresy. He and von Speyr were dangerous fools who had been lured by satan's false promises:

He's one of John Paul II's favorites.

43 posted on 10/21/2003 2:07:20 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! Save a life, and maybe you'll save your own, too!)
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To: Catholicguy
1034 Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"616

It would take a LOT of explaining to explain all this away

44 posted on 10/21/2003 2:08:50 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: sinkspur
That's why I sent the Pope a bible for his anniversary present! ;)
45 posted on 10/21/2003 2:09:58 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: sinkspur
Augustine made errors hisownself. Outside of me, there are few impeccable theologians
46 posted on 10/21/2003 2:09:58 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: Tantumergo
Bing! Bing! Bing!
Tantumergo wins! He finds an infallible source that insists that some souls experience eternal fire!
Can anyone offer a counterargument?
47 posted on 10/21/2003 2:14:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: ArrogantBustard
O, right... what was his lackey's name, then?
48 posted on 10/21/2003 2:15:32 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
This sort of data keeps cropping up in the Cardinal stories. Our Cardinal Rigali is one of seven.

That's why you have to read Pope Pius XII's "Address to Large Families." He makes the same point that large families are the cradle of vocations. But if you only have 1 boy and 1 girl, then parents won't want to sacrifice them to vocations.

49 posted on 10/21/2003 2:16:42 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: dangus; Hermann the Cherusker
Context please?

I think that Hermann placed him in the precisely the correct context:

Conservative in the sense that yesterday's radical is today's standard bearer. I think this is code meaning he doesn't disagree with Church teaching on abortion, wymyn priestesses, contraception, sodomy, etc.

50 posted on 10/21/2003 2:19:02 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: dangus
The lackey's name was Lucifer.

"By your command"

Yes, 20 years ago I was a big fan of that show...

51 posted on 10/21/2003 2:20:25 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Mea Culpa. Mea Culpa. Mea Maxima Culpa.)
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To: dangus
Just because Jesus spoke more about Hell than anything else is no reason we shouldn't avoid the topic. I mean, it isn't nice.
52 posted on 10/21/2003 2:22:44 PM PDT by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Oh, of course... how perfect.
53 posted on 10/21/2003 2:24:39 PM PDT by dangus
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To: NYer
"Quebec is languishing, far from the values that were the strength and glory of her forebears," he said at his Jan. 26 installation, in a homily that warned against "the idolatry of money, sex and the power of the media."

Nice.  I'd like to hear a homily like that.
54 posted on 10/21/2003 2:26:05 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: ArrogantBustard
Whaddayamean "20 years ago"? It's ba-a-ack! Sci-fi channel in December. And except for their history of wretchedly bad miniseries ("Taken," "Dune 2002," etc.), I'd think it looks like the coolest thing to hit TV since E.D. got all hormonal and went off on the Axis of Weasels on Fox News. (i.e., "I'll tell you why the population of France is going down! Because there aren't any women who'd wanna -- ." At that point she was reestrained.)

55 posted on 10/21/2003 2:28:48 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
So I'm not misunderstood by women unfamiliar with the subject I wrote about... I've known men who use the term "hormonal" to credit any woman's anger to "PMS." I don't use the word "hormonal" colloquially or disparagingly. E.D. Hill was very pregnant, and was emotionally wild for a little while on FOX News. She credited her fierce emotions to her state. Truthfully, I enjoyed her frankness very, very much.
56 posted on 10/21/2003 2:37:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Outstanding job defending the doctrine of the faith. It's quite true as you say that von Balthasar creates false dichotomies. A clear falsification in the above article from FUS was the idea that "Aquinas and St. Paul may have said it, but it's not Church teaching." Wait a second, something that has been defined successively by Scripture, Tradition, and the Magisterium, isn't that the very definition of Church doctrine?

It's a horrible abuse of the doctrine of infallibility to think that we have to wait for the pope to pronounce infallibly on a subject before it becomes Catholic doctrine. This was the fear of people like Cardinal Newman who opposed the doctrine of infallibility at Vatican I, and I'm starting to have more sympathy with his position. It's not that the pope's not infallible in some cases, but that it could be imprudent to make the faithful believe that Church doctrine is fallible whenever he doesn't pronounce ex cathedra.

As you point out, it's not just Aquinas and St. Paul (although they are probably the 2 most authoritative sources in Church teaching), but the entirety of Catholic Tradition, including most prominently St. Augustine. I have always had difficulty throughout my life understanding the apparent conflict between God's foreknowledge and free will. It wasn't until I read St. Augustine's "City of God" that I finally understood it for the first time.

The fact that Augustine is able to reconcile God's foreknowledge with free will shows that he is not a Calvinist. But at the same time, predestination is still a catholic doctrine, one that has been taught for 2000 years, although most prominently associated with Augustine.

Just recently there were a couple of threads recommending "The Sinner's Guide" by Ven. Louis of Granada. I can't recommend it highly enough. One chapter in particular deals with the issue of "election" -- we need to be grateful to God for our creation, our salvation, our justification, and our election. Until I read this book, I never understood the difference between these terms. I think it will clear up confusion for anyone who reads it.

TAN Books Sinner's Guide

I see it's on sale for only $10. And it's even cheaper as part of the "Introductory Offer" of 10 books:

Introductory Offer

57 posted on 10/21/2003 2:54:03 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: sinkspur
He's one of John Paul II's favorites.

QED.

Was it pre-destined that he should drop dead 2 days before he was scheduled to receive the red hat? One can only wonder.

58 posted on 10/21/2003 2:57:24 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Catholicguy
Just because Jesus spoke more about Hell than anything else is no reason we shouldn't avoid the topic. I mean, it isn't nice.

Ha, ha. This is clearly the philosophy of most parish priests. (And bishops, cardinals, the pope, etc.)

59 posted on 10/21/2003 2:59:14 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
That's why you have to read Pope Pius XII's "Address to Large Families." He makes the same point that large families are the cradle of vocations. But if you only have 1 boy and 1 girl, then parents won't want to sacrifice them to vocations.

I wholeheartedly agree. And I do not accept that two children is okay or sufficient for 99% of the married popualtion.

60 posted on 10/21/2003 3:04:27 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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