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Gen. Shelton shocks Celebrity Forum, says he won't support Clark for president
Los Altos Town Crier ^ | 9.25.03 | Mia T

Posted on 09/25/2003 9:31:56 AM PDT by Mia T

 

 

Gen. Shelton shocks Celebrity Forum, says he won't support Clark for president

By Joan Garvin / Town Crier Correspondent

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Retired General H. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11, shared his recollection of that day and his views of the war against terrorism with the Foothill College Celebrity Forum audience at Flint Center, Sept. 11 and 12.

His review of that historic event and his 38 years in the military kept the audience's rapt attention throughout. But it was his answer to a question from the audience at the end that shocked his listeners.

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Shelton was on a 757 en route to Budapest for a conference when he learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Knowing that New York had perfect weather and there were no computer problems, he determined that it was a terrorist attack and immediately turned the plane around.

Shelton's 38 years in the military included two years in Vietnam and service in the 173rd Airborne Brigade and Green Berets. In addition to having been an adviser to the president and a member of the National Security Council, he has been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the Purple Heart and six Distinguished Service Medals. He has been decorated by 15 foreign governments and knighted by Queen Elizabeth.

His 6-foot-6-inch military bearing and commanding presence at the Celebrity Forum belied his recent personal battle. Only months after his retirement, following 400 parachute jumps from 30,000 feet, the former special ops soldier fell from a ladder outside his home, landed with his head caught in a chain-link fence and was partially paralyzed from the neck down.

The doctor told Shelton he would never walk or use his hands again. Shelton said he checked the doctor's name tag for "God"; he didn't see it. Eighty-four days later he walked out on his own, and he is now close to 100 percent recovered. The unfortunate experience taught him an invaluable lesson -- "the importance of faith, family and friends when the chips are down."

Three days after Shelton took office as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, his commitment to the integrity of the military was tested. When U.S. planes in the Iraq no-fly zone were attacked, a member of Congress suggested that perhaps "we" could fly a U-2 spy plane so low over Iraq that it could easily get hit. Then we'd have a reason "to kick Saddam out of Iraq." After Shelton responded that he would order that "just as soon as you are qualified to fly (it)," he was not asked again to compromise his office.

"Sometimes people in a position of power lose perspective on right and wrong," Shelton said.

The events of 9/11 were not a surprise to Shelton. He had been concerned because the United States offers a vulnerable target-rich environment. Two areas continue to worry him. First, a cyber-attack on air control, water, 911, financial or other nationwide systems could "bring us to our knees." Second, the use of weapons of mass destruction, even small amounts of sarin gas, anthrax germs, bio-attacks, continues to be a dangerous threat. Their deployment had been planned for the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, but al-Qaeda ordered the attack before they were in place.

In order to deal with the ongoing danger, the United States must "continue to go after terrorists," he said. "Bush has maintained the pressure and earned kudos in spite of the criticism."


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RAPIST SHOWING LEG:
An Extension of
the clinton Complex-Question Fallacy Scheme

 

by Mia T, 9-19-03

 

The missus clinton-Wesley Clark spectacle, in any permutation or combination, is as much about delusions of grandeur (with sabotage the fallback position) as about anything else. As Susan Estrich pointedly stated yet again last night: "hillary is unelectable."


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The clinton calculus, that the clintons' utter failure, which unleashed global terror, would be neutralized (or at least mitigated) by any general -- and no less by a general who, himself, exudes critical elements of clinton dysfunction -- is ludicrous on its face and yet another example of that unique brand of clinton rube arrogance rooted in stupidity.

Missus-clinton-flirting-to-run-by-proxy -- the rapist is the one showing leg -- is merely an extension of the original clinton Complex-Question Fallacy Scheme. (With her legs and political skills, the bait and switch is perfectly understandable.)

And the leftist media is falling for it like a homely, desperate old maid.

The clintons are betting that media desperation, coupled with her late entry-- and of course, the old clinton standbys, access journalism and plain intimidation -- will mitigate against any serious vetting of the little missus.

The clinton Complex-Question Fallacy Scheme notwithstanding, it is axiomatic and confirmed on a daily basis by clinton "infrastructure" strategy alone that hillary ("listening tour" / cozy-clintonoid-interviews-of-the-Colmes-kind) clinton is no better than Howard Dean at withstanding media scrutiny... and is likely significantly worse.

From this it follows that hillary clinton cannot survive the standard, lengthy, probing presidential-campaign process. An end run is her only option.

And contrary to conventional wisdom, time is not on her side. Not only are the clintons in general decline, not only is she vulnerable in '06, but in this post-9/11 world,

as more clinton failures and betrayals are documented, increasingly favorable demographics will prove insufficient to resuscitate disfavored, dysfunctional, dangerous democrat demagogues like the clintons.

Look, therefore, for the clintons to make their move in '04. Susan Estrich, Al From and The Times aren't on the same "Get the clintons off the stage!" page for no reason.

George Will continues: There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

 

GEORGE WILL, SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL

 

 



eyes wide shut
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EPILOGUE: (ADDITIONAL AUDIO)
Hear Christopher Shays: "The bottom line: HE DID RAPE BROADDRICK."

 

 

CNN's favorite general, Wesley Clark, has also been heard to opine that our troops are getting bogged down in Iraq. His competence to judge American generals is questionable since his command was limited to working for NATO. We prefer to hear from American generals. Clark's contribution to international relations consisted of mistakenly bombing the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. In his zeal to prevent troop casualties, he ordered pilots to fly at such high altitudes that the pilots complained that they were being forced to incur unnecessary civilian casualties.

The enemy within

 


hear
*Thanx to Cloud William for text and audio

 

 

LEHRER: President Bush, your closing statement, sir.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Three weeks from now--two weeks from tomorrow, America goes to the polls and you're going to have to decide who you want to lead this country ...

On foreign affairs, some think it's irrelevant. I believe it's not. We're living in an interconnected world...And if a crisis comes up, ask who has the judgment and the experience and, yes, the character to make the right decision?

And, lastly, the other night on character Governor Clinton said it's not the character of the president but the character of the presidency. I couldn't disagree more. Horace Greeley said the only thing that endures is character. And I think it was Justice Black who talked about great nations, like great men, must keep their word.

And so the question is, who will safeguard this nation, who will safeguard our people and our children? I need your support, I ask for your support. And may God bless the United States of America.

(Applause)

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THE CLINTONS--AMERICA'S BIGGEST BLUNDER
Hear Bush 41 Warn Us--October 19, 1992*

 

 

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virtual hillary is the REAL hillary clinton
missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
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1 posted on 09/25/2003 9:31:59 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: All
CORRECTION: The author is Joan Garvin
2 posted on 09/25/2003 9:33:17 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox; ...
"I AM NOT A MILITARY MAN"

PING

3 posted on 09/25/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Front page news.

Several days ago when it happened...
4 posted on 09/25/2003 9:57:25 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Mia T
Keep up the good work as always Mia!

 


5 posted on 09/25/2003 10:01:01 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Redbob
Was this article posted? Or an article on this article?
6 posted on 09/25/2003 10:01:27 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Incorrigible
luv it! ;)
7 posted on 09/25/2003 10:02:18 AM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Bump!
8 posted on 09/25/2003 10:02:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (You want freedom fries with that?)
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To: Mia T
Thanks for the ping, Mia.
10 posted on 09/25/2003 10:23:11 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: GoOrdnance
A dozen? Wow, that's some search feature ya' got there.

Why not leave Mod jobs to the Mods.
11 posted on 09/25/2003 10:25:29 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mia T
"West Wing" Clark is a bonafided banana cream pie. I predict his handlers will not be able to hide his goofiness for very long. When the media begins to smell red meat, they will be on him like heat on napalm. He has aready been caught in several lies and gafs. Far more serious questions about the man's sanity will be uncovered. I think his balloon will burst rather quickly.
12 posted on 09/25/2003 10:49:31 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Mia T; RedBloodedAmerican
Thanks MiaT. First time I've seen this article. Your collage of information is what always makes your posts unique. You are a genuine asset to this forum.
13 posted on 09/25/2003 10:56:37 AM PDT by Faith
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To: Mia T; backhoe; RaceBannon; doug from upland; Registered
Links of Interest...


CNS NEWS.com: "RAMSEY CLARK SAYS AMERICA SHOULD PAY FULL TAB FOR REBUILDING IRAQ" by Steve Brown (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "(CNSNews.com) - America is responsible for war-ravaged Iraq and should pay for its reconstruction instead of asking for help from the United Nations, according to one of the nation's most vocal anti-war activists and former U.S. attorney general Ramsey Clark. Clark, whose off-the-cuff comments in January comparing Jesus Christ to a terrorist created a media firestorm, was in Washington, D.C., Wednesday as director of International Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER). Among other things, Clark alleged that the Bush administration has lied about its "criminal war."") (September 4, 2003)
CNS NEWS.com: "DEMOCRAT WESLEY CLARK CRITICIZED AS ADVOCATE OF 'NATION BUILDING'" by Lawrence Morahan (August 26, 2003)

FRONT PAGE MAGAZINE: "WESLEY CLARK: GENERAL ISSUES" -Column by Lowell Ponte (August 25, 2003)

DRAFTCLARK.com: "IT IS TIME TO MOVEON" (August 19, 2003)

MOVE ON.org

AIM.org - Media Monitor: "MEDIA GIVE CLINTON'S GENERAL A PASS" -Column by Cliff Kincaid (July 30, 2003)

14 posted on 09/25/2003 11:05:29 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Mia T
Limbaugh just gave the Shelton quote on his show.
15 posted on 09/25/2003 11:15:35 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Mia T
I missed the article the first time around, so thanks for posting it. Not only was the info on Clark good, but I gained a true respect for Shelton through the rest of the article.
16 posted on 09/25/2003 12:53:05 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Mia T
Hello Mia
thanks for the ping
& bttt
17 posted on 09/25/2003 2:29:46 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Mia T
Colin Powell was on Letterman tonight. When Dave asked him what he thought of Clark, he said since Clark served under him , he'd "recuse" himself from commenting. It sounded like, "I don't like him."
18 posted on 09/26/2003 12:14:32 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Mia T
You are a work-in-progress, of genius, Beautiful Lady.

Thank you for the ping thing.

Hugs -- B A
19 posted on 09/26/2003 1:49:28 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mia T; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; Slyfox
BTTT!
20 posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:19 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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