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Clark calls for a new American patriotism (BARF ALERT)
NY Slimes ^ | Sept. 22, 2003 | Eric Schmidt

Posted on 09/22/2003 9:16:54 PM PDT by Sparta

Clark Calls for a 'New American Patriotism'

By ERIC SCHMITT

CHARLESTON, S.C., Sept. 22 — Gen. Wesley K. Clark called today for "a new American patriotism" that would encourage broader public service, respect domestic dissent even in wartime and embrace international organizations like the United Nations.

General Clark, a former NATO commander and Army officer who last week announced his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination, accused the Bush administration of neglecting economic problems and of pursuing a dangerous go-it-alone foreign policy.

But he also used the setting of the Citadel, the military college here, to appeal to about 150 cadets and civilians on the parade grounds to help restore something loftier, a sense of national spirit that he suggested that the administration's campaign against terror had corroded.

"We've got to have a new kind of patriotism that recognizes that in times of war or peace democracy requires dialogue, disagreement and the courage to speak out," General Clark said. "And those who do it should not be condemned, but be praised."

General Clark made it clear he believed that the administration had unfairly focused on whole classes of immigrants, for fear of a minority within them.

"Three million Muslims have come to this country from Asia and the Middle East," he said. "They didn't come because they were afraid of our values. They came because they wanted to live under them."

Today was Day 6 of the campaign, and General Clark's 20-minute stump speech at the hastily arranged event here had a few rough patches.

"Patriotism doesn't consist of following the orders, not, not not when you're not in the chain of command," the general said, stumbling over his words and catching himself before he inadvertently encouraged insubordination in the ranks.

Despite the stumbles, General Clark heard good news in a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll that showed he had jumped ahead of the other Democrats. The poll, conducted over the weekend, showed him tying President Bush head to head.

General Clark was invited to speak here by Philip Lader, a visiting professor of political science who is a close friend of former President Bill Clinton. Many former top Clinton aides have roles in his campaign.

General Clark directed his attacks against the administration, never mentioning the other nine Democratic hopefuls. He criticized the Bush team as doing little to stem the job losses and mounting deficits that have weighed on the economy since he retired from the Army in 2000.

"I'm running for president because I could not stand by and watch everything that we fought for, everything our nation had accomplished and become, unravel before our eyes," General Clark said.

He said the administration had failed to shore up health care and education, but he offered no detailed plans.

"One of the principles we learned in the United States armed forces was the principle of accountability," he said. "Americans today are asking, `Why did we lose three million jobs over the last three years?' "

He fired the other barrel of his attack at the handling of Iraq and at overall foreign policy, especially given that Mr. Bush is requesting $87 billion from Congress to finance reconstruction and military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"What was the strategy?" he asked about Iraq. "What was the purpose? What is the success strategy? How are we going to finish the mission there?"

General Clark did not discuss what are apparently his reversals on the the war. Last October, he said that he would support the Congressional resolution that authorized the use of military force in Iraq and then spent months criticizing the execution of the war. On Thursday, the day after he announced his candidacy, he said, "I probably would have voted for" the resolution. On Friday, he backtracked, saying, "I never would have voted for war."

By coincidence, his aides said, General Clark spoke here nearly four years to the day after George W. Bush, then the governor of Texas, visited the Citadel to lay out his most explicit thinking on military policy.

General Clark did not delve into such detail, but said he would map out a foreign policy, drawing on his experience leading tens of thousands of troops and working at the highest levels of the government, first as a senior general in the Pentagon and later as NATO supreme commander in the 1999 war in Kosovo.

He said his approach was based on three basic pillars. First, his strategy would reach out more aggressively to allies. He said he would also work to improve relations with international organizations like the United Nations, which he said were created decades ago to "to distribute the burdens of leadership, to share the responsibilities and to share the benefits of security."

Finally, he said, he will always support a well-financed military, strong enough to deter or, if necessary, defeat any threat.

After his remarks, General Clark bounded into the audience, shaking hands, signing copies of his memoirs and getting a feel for what life is going to be like in the campaign.

Terry Tranen, 61, a retired aerospace engineer, said General Clark was the Democrat with the best chance of beating Mr. Bush.

"I think I might send him some money," Mr. Tranen said. "That's the real test, isn't it?"


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To: Sparta
Is joining the EU part of Wesley Clark's platform too?
41 posted on 09/23/2003 4:57:36 AM PDT by Blast Radius
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To: BenLurkin
I think he makes a great muppet.
42 posted on 09/23/2003 5:27:14 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Sparta
Clark Calls for a 'New American Patriotism

Liberals are skilled at evading their crimes by simply defining them away.

They rename "racism" to "multiculturalism" then call anyone who objects to this, "racists"

Now you see them redefine treason as the "New American Patriotism", and if you object, you will be a traitor.

43 posted on 09/23/2003 5:58:26 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: kinghorse
He sort of reminds me of the little Nazi from the Blues Brothers.
44 posted on 09/23/2003 6:04:58 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: Sparta

45 posted on 09/23/2003 6:08:00 AM PDT by LRS
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To: tet68
Good point!

The Clintoons never did have much tolerance for opposing viewpoints.

46 posted on 09/23/2003 7:02:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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To: Sparta
"Gen. Wesley K. Clark called today for "a new American patriotism" that would encourage broader public service, respect domestic dissent even in wartime and embrace international organizations like the United Nations. "

Who needs sovreignty?

47 posted on 09/23/2003 7:29:03 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Sparta
The new version of American patriotism means loving your country so much you kill women and children with tanks and chemical weapons.
48 posted on 09/23/2003 7:31:54 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Sparta
So "patriotism," to Clark, means jettisoning the time-honored rule that "politics ends at the water's edge?" That's how the Leftists caused the US to lose a winnable war in Viet Nam, and how the Leftists are trying to make America "lose" in Iraq by pulling out and leaving a vacuum which terrorists can fill.

So "patriotism," to Clark, means "embracing" the United Nations. The only thing the UN and its leftist supporters in Europe and elsewhere will accept from us is the slow surrender of our sovereignty and our wealth. How is it "patriotic" to give away our right to govern ourselves? How is it "patriotic" to bleed Americans dry for the sake of third world ratholes, which will never create wealth -- not because their people are innately incapable -- but because they have a socialist mindset and a culture which doesn't foster individual initiative?

With respect to Muslim immigrants -- some have come to live in freedom. That's true. Others have come as part of a desire to spread Islam and make the whole world into the Ummah. I have no idea what the percentages are. I have met people in both groups. Not all of the people in the latter group think they have to resort to terrorism or violence -- not yet. They just plan to move to the US and have 12 children. Eventually, the US will look like Europe. Demographers predict that before the middle of this century, Europe will be majority Muslim.
49 posted on 09/23/2003 7:35:16 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Timesink
It's very interesting that this line was included in a New York Times article about Clark. It's a real slap in his face.

Clark may love the UN, but the Slimes still hates a military man.

50 posted on 09/23/2003 8:02:58 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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To: Sparta
I prefer the old patriotism.
51 posted on 09/23/2003 8:25:48 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: Imal
"Patriotism doesn't consist of following the orders, not, not not when you're not in the chain of command," the general said

Nothing negative about that.

What I consider negative is the insinuation that under the current administration, patriotism has been equated to following orders.

52 posted on 09/23/2003 9:08:38 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
How about those with the courage to speak out in condemnation of those who speak out? Should they be condemned or praised?

"Nobody should be condemned, because it isn't right to be judgmental, maybe they are just misunderstood due to cultural diff...oh wait, you are talking about the right-wing reactionaries, aincha? Yes, they should be condemned."

53 posted on 09/23/2003 9:17:14 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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To: kinghorse
Yes. Haven't we heard the voice behind the new muppet before? Sounds familiar. And I've seen this cartoon before. It's deja vu all over again.
54 posted on 09/23/2003 9:29:08 AM PDT by auboy (The liberals' creed: "If at first you don't succeed, lie, lie again")
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To: JasonC
If that comment about our plans for military action was accurate, you may be very close to exactly right.
55 posted on 09/23/2003 9:32:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: lady lawyer
With respect to Muslim immigrants -- some have come to live in freedom. That's true. Others have come as part of a desire to spread Islam and make the whole world into the Ummah.

A good test for whether an immigrant has come to live in freedom would be to ask him to renounce Islam. After all, Islam encourages the murder of innocents--what's more, it's built on the murder of innocents--therefore, a truly freedom-loving man cannot possibly believe in it. You have a choice: either you stay a Muslim, or you come to the States to be free. You can't have both.

Those who say this policy would be unacceptable because it is "intolerant" and "discriminatory" do not understand, or refuse to acknowledge, what the meaning of freedom is. Freedom is all about removing the threat of a violation of the people's rights--such as murder of innocents, for example. Those who believe in the murder of innocents have no place in a free society. Thus, the very definition of freedom involves an intolerance for the wrong and discrimination against those who practice it.

And those who can't accept this, have likewise no place in a free society.

56 posted on 09/23/2003 9:34:23 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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To: auboy
Someone please whip up the photoshop of this muppet being double diddled up his sock by the Hill and Bill Little Rock Syndicate.
57 posted on 09/23/2003 9:38:20 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Sparta
in other words, Clark is calling for the emasculation of America...

oh, btw, Bush has called for increased public service. He hardly EVER attakcs his critics...
58 posted on 09/23/2003 9:41:41 AM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: Sparta
CHARLESTON, S.C., Sept. 22 — Gen. Wesley K. Clark called today for "a new American patriotism" that would encourage broader public service, respect domestic dissent even in wartime and embrace international organizations like the United Nations.

HOGWASH!

59 posted on 09/23/2003 9:43:52 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Sparta
"Three million Muslims have come to this country from Asia and the Middle East," he said. "They didn't come because they were afraid of our values. They came because they wanted to live under them."

Wake up, General, and smell what you're shoveling.

60 posted on 09/23/2003 9:44:50 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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