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To: Sparta
So "patriotism," to Clark, means jettisoning the time-honored rule that "politics ends at the water's edge?" That's how the Leftists caused the US to lose a winnable war in Viet Nam, and how the Leftists are trying to make America "lose" in Iraq by pulling out and leaving a vacuum which terrorists can fill.

So "patriotism," to Clark, means "embracing" the United Nations. The only thing the UN and its leftist supporters in Europe and elsewhere will accept from us is the slow surrender of our sovereignty and our wealth. How is it "patriotic" to give away our right to govern ourselves? How is it "patriotic" to bleed Americans dry for the sake of third world ratholes, which will never create wealth -- not because their people are innately incapable -- but because they have a socialist mindset and a culture which doesn't foster individual initiative?

With respect to Muslim immigrants -- some have come to live in freedom. That's true. Others have come as part of a desire to spread Islam and make the whole world into the Ummah. I have no idea what the percentages are. I have met people in both groups. Not all of the people in the latter group think they have to resort to terrorism or violence -- not yet. They just plan to move to the US and have 12 children. Eventually, the US will look like Europe. Demographers predict that before the middle of this century, Europe will be majority Muslim.
49 posted on 09/23/2003 7:35:16 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
With respect to Muslim immigrants -- some have come to live in freedom. That's true. Others have come as part of a desire to spread Islam and make the whole world into the Ummah.

A good test for whether an immigrant has come to live in freedom would be to ask him to renounce Islam. After all, Islam encourages the murder of innocents--what's more, it's built on the murder of innocents--therefore, a truly freedom-loving man cannot possibly believe in it. You have a choice: either you stay a Muslim, or you come to the States to be free. You can't have both.

Those who say this policy would be unacceptable because it is "intolerant" and "discriminatory" do not understand, or refuse to acknowledge, what the meaning of freedom is. Freedom is all about removing the threat of a violation of the people's rights--such as murder of innocents, for example. Those who believe in the murder of innocents have no place in a free society. Thus, the very definition of freedom involves an intolerance for the wrong and discrimination against those who practice it.

And those who can't accept this, have likewise no place in a free society.

56 posted on 09/23/2003 9:34:23 AM PDT by Smile-n-Win (Islam is a religion of perversion and a perversion of religion.)
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