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1 posted on 09/18/2003 5:56:03 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
This is a frank admission that Hamas is a hostile military power, one that is controlled by him.

My advice? Destroy it forthwith,, along with its 'general'.
2 posted on 09/18/2003 5:58:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (one mile from the Capitol in DC...)
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To: dennisw
I actually laughed when I read the headline. A sick, sardonic laugh.

I wonder how Sharon's govt reads the tea leaves on what the likely US reaction would be to an **effective** strike against Hamas, et al.

4 posted on 09/18/2003 6:02:19 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: dennisw
Hmmmm......Yasser says HE'LL dismantle a TERRORIST group, which specializes in blowing civilian men, women and children to smithereens, when Israel dismantles it's security agency.

Yasser actually owned up to running Hamas. I am astounded. Israel, ask us to come in, do joint ops and blow Hamas and Yasser to smithereens, PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!!! You want them, we want them...ok. Let's get them.

5 posted on 09/18/2003 6:08:17 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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"I know what military infrastructure is. Don't forget, you are talking to an army general!"

Talk about an army of one. What army is he general of?

7 posted on 09/18/2003 6:11:02 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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Dear Arafat,
"palestine" has never been a country.
You have the ability to be a roaring mouse only thanks to the collusion and financial support of Saudi Arabia, Iran and Iraq.
Their days are numbered.

Then what are you gonna do?

9 posted on 09/18/2003 6:13:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: dennisw
Dismantle Ara(pig)fat.

Then clean out the rest of the jihadis.

10 posted on 09/18/2003 6:13:32 PM PDT by LibKill (Leaving the toilet seat up improves your household feng shui.)
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To: dennisw
All the more argument for the US to stop trying to be everyone's big brother in the region and let the little kids fight...... Let the Israelis make the wrath of the IDF one notch higher on the list of things for the Palis to worry about than the wrath of God.....
11 posted on 09/18/2003 6:17:58 PM PDT by CodeMonkey
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To: dennisw
Accept under the following condition: The first Israeli civilian killed will result in a bomb in Arafat's living room. The second will will result in the demise of Rantisi. The 3rd, Yassin.
13 posted on 09/18/2003 6:20:02 PM PDT by cookcounty
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Liar, liar, pants on fire! Sorry to be so juvenile, but arafart made me do it.
14 posted on 09/18/2003 6:20:03 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: dennisw
The IDF Defends a country. Hamas does not.
25 posted on 09/18/2003 6:39:35 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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"We'll stop murdering your innocent civilians when you stop killing our killers". It's been the deal for as long as I can remember now.
27 posted on 09/18/2003 7:06:15 PM PDT by Akira ("Experience is a hard teacher, but fools will have no other." - Ben Franklin)
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28 posted on 09/18/2003 7:07:02 PM PDT by Bob J
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Arafat said - "...Don't forget, you are talking to an army general!"

Meanwhile, Arafat's men are surrounding his office with women and children acting as a "human shield" against an Israeli attempt to assassinate or deport him."

There is not enough warrior in Arafat to construct a pimple on a real General's ass, and his Army is so cowardly they fight only from behind women and children and attack only women and children...

If these are the Arab's best --- civilization will have lost nothing when they must all be destroyed.

Semper Fi

31 posted on 09/18/2003 7:33:40 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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Is there anyone here who would have serious objections if Yasser Arafat's building were bombed right now? What if there were 200 of these human shields killed? What if there were 500? How about 1000? Do I hear 10,000?

If you answered 'no problem' to all of these, how about if we just let the Israelis buy all the CAT bulldozers they want and send them across the West Bank and Gaza Strip side-by-side until the whole Palestinian contingent is cleared out into other countries...or flat?

I bet not many Americans would care.
35 posted on 09/18/2003 7:58:40 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The scariest nine words in the English Language: We're from the government. We're here to help you.)
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37 posted on 09/18/2003 8:18:37 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner ("Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable." - George Orwell)
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For crying out loud, I am beginning to question GWB's integrity.

His failure, at this point, to tell the Hamas that WE are coming after them, in my view, stabs our troops in Iraq in the back.

Although it may take awhile for it to come out, I bet US$100 that at least ONE of our troop fatalities in Iraq has been inflicted by Hamas guerillas on jihad in Iraq.

Any takers?
38 posted on 09/18/2003 8:26:31 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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"The Islamic Jihad is already ready and now we are continuing with the Hamas," Arafat told Yediot Aharonot. "Up to now, the results are positive, there is a positive outlook from their perspective."

LIES!

Arafart is starting to lose it, methinks. He's backed into a corner (literally), on the verge of total military defeat, and the Israeli leadership is openly discussing either his expulsion or assassination/execution (best case scenario IMO).

Personally, I'd like to have his head mounted on a plaque on my living room wall.

44 posted on 09/19/2003 12:13:05 AM PDT by FierceDraka ("I got SOUL, and I'm SUPER BAD")
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Arafat said Israel should be required to dismantle the infrastructure of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). "I know what military infrastructure is. Don't forget, you are talking to an army general!"

"Army general." Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

In precisely the same way that Rachel Corrie was a parking brake. :)

46 posted on 09/19/2003 12:27:19 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: dennisw
OK, somebody help me out here. I think we all know what should happen. What I am wondering is why it hasn't or isn't supposed to, from the other side. I hear, but do not know, that the US is against executing the man. I don't hear why. I know the Europeans and press and I expect many Dems pretend it is supposedly unthinkable. Here is my problem. I'd like to know why they think that.

What basis is even alleged for immunity for Arafat?

Would it excuse Hitler?

Yes yes, I know Arafat is not Hitler and I am not engaging in a reductio ad Hitler. I am wondering whether any maxim proposed as protective of Arafat exists, that when generalized would leave a clear distinction between him and AH.

Is Arafat supposed to be immune because in the past he signed agreements brokered by leaders of major democratic powers? Um, so did AH.

Is Arafat supposed to be immune because he is the constitutional or elected leader of his people? Um, so was AH.

IS Arafat supposed to be immune because he continues to offer peace, in words? Um, AH was offering peace in words to the UK right through the Blitz.

Is Arafat supposed to be immune because heads of state are simply off limits, even in a war? Um, UK intelligence tried to kill AH half a dozen times, and supplied the bomb that almost got him in 1944.

Is Arafat supposed to be immune because the Palestinian people have had a raw deal? Um, Versailles, reparations, inflation, and depression didn't exactly amount to living in high cotton. Nobody pretends that excuses anything.

He has been a terror master for his entire adult life. He has run attempts to overthrow governments that put him up, from Jordan to Lebanon. Everywhere he has gone, death and destruction have followed him. His policy of murdering innocents while mugging for the cameras hasn't changed in 30 years. His hands are covered in innocent blood, some of it American. In the last 3 years he has shown himself if anything more savage than previously, in response to being offered more than ever before. He just dumped the "last chance" PM that W allowed him to get the territories off the front page last year, to allow Iraq to go ahead without that distraction.

What on green earth is supposed to make it some high principle that he be untouchable now? That other Arabs don't see anything wrong with murdering innocents as long as they are Israeli? Surely that is something we are fighting against and seek to correct, not something it is our policy to kowtow to - isn't it?

The only thing I can see, besides simple leftist solidarity with any murdering tyrant, is people thinking it "sounds mean" to be in favor of waging war against someone who wages war.

In Lawrence of Arabia there is a scene where a feud threatens to erupt within the Arab army before the fight for Aqaba. A man has shot dead a member of another tribe. The head of the offended tribe explains his position on the matter rather succinctly.

"He killed. He dies."

51 posted on 09/19/2003 3:12:05 AM PDT by JasonC
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