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Hurricane Isabel:Live Thread #2 "Force Ten Conditions In North Carolina And Further North"
NHC | 9-17-03 | My Favorite Headache

Posted on 09/17/2003 8:14:30 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Hurricane Isabel Advisory Number 48

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on September 17, 2003

...Outer bands of Hurricane Isabel moving onshore...weather should gradually worsen...

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect from Cape Fear North Carolina to Chincoteague Virginia...including Pamlico and Albemarle sounds...and the Chesapeake Bay south of Smith Point. A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected within the warning area...generally within 24 hours.

All preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion in the Hurricane Warning area.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect south of Cape Fear to South Santee River South Carolina...and north of Chincoteague to Sandy Hook New Jersey...including Delaware Bay. A Tropical Storm Warning also remains in effect for the Chesapeake Bay from Smith Point northward...and for the tidal Potomac.

At 11 PM EDT...0300z...the center of Hurricane Isabel was located by an Air Force reconnaissance aircraft near latitude 31.9 north... longitude 73.9 west or about 250 miles south-southeast of Cape Hatteras North Carolina.

Isabel is moving toward the north-northwest near 13 mph. A turn to the northwest with an increase in forward speed is expected prior to landfall. On the forecast track...the center of Isabel is expected to make landfall in eastern North Carolina during the day Thursday. However...conditions will deteriorate over a large area well before the center reaches the coast. Tropical storm conditions are already spreading across the coastline.

Maximum sustained winds are near 105 mph...with higher gusts. A slight increase in strength is possible prior to landfall.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 115 miles from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 315 miles. A buoy located west of the hurricane recently reported wind gusts to 74 mph and 32 foot waves.

An Air Force hurricane hunter plane recently reported a minimum central pressure of 956 mb...28.23 inches.

Storm surge flooding of 7 to 11 feet above normal tide levels... along with extremely large and dangerous battering waves...is expected near and to the north of where the center crosses the coast. Storm surge flooding of 4 to 8 ft above normal tide levels is expected in Chesapeake Bay and the tidal portions of adjacent rivers.

Storm total rainfalls of 6 to 10 inches...with locally higher amounts...are likely in association with Isabel.

There is a threat of isolated tornadoes over eastern North Carolina and southeastern Virginia on Thursday.

Repeating the 11 PM EDT position...31.9 N... 73.9 W. Movement toward...north-northwest near 13 mph. Maximum sustained winds...105 mph. Minimum central pressure... 956 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at 2 am EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 5 am EDT.

Forecaster Avila


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneisabel; isabel; landfall
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To: AFPhys
Yep,I hope everyone comes through without too much trouble.

I'm in S.central Oklahoma on the Red River,so I don't worry much about 'canes but I used to truck OTR and have seen enough damage from them to really feel for the folks that go through them.

2,061 posted on 09/18/2003 10:55:56 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: Colorado Doug
I am so sorry.I've seen the debris piled up from a flash flood but your story really showed the destructive power of those trees and debris piling up.Glad your horse and foal were saved.
2,062 posted on 09/18/2003 10:59:37 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: pops88
I was hearing reports this afternoon about that .... but I think it may have been rumor. I saw a number of "live shots" by reporters from Kill Devil Hills after the stories came out and none of them talked about a hotel collapsing. They did show damage to several hotels .... and I think some or all of them were places where the media were staying. A couple lost parts of their roofs and one lost big chunks of siding. All the pictures I saw indicated a need for MAJOR repairs before the places would be ready for occupany again .... but no collapses.

Someone else may know more or have some completely different info.

2,063 posted on 09/18/2003 11:03:07 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Colorado Doug
Years ago there was a rock slide like that in CO that made the national news. I think a number of campers were killed. Some time later (in the mid-80s) hubby and I were out there and saw the scars of that event. Even long after it happened it was amazing to see the site.

I can't imagine actually seeing one of them happen. I"m glad you're ok!

And I love your state. It's truly beautiful!

2,064 posted on 09/18/2003 11:07:12 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: MEG33
Glad your horse and foal were saved

Thank you. Me too. Everything else will clean up in time but I could not have bared to watch one of my beloved horses wash away and drown. The horse that wanted to swim the creek will not even cross a puddle most of the time. He is a big baby and has a rubber ducky in his water trough that he plays with.

An amazing little story about my flood was that about two months ago, I had lost and accidentally buried a rather expensive depth sensor for my backhoe while helping a neighbor with their road. It was lost about a mile from here. I was sick about it because it has been a slow summer and I knew that I couldn't afford to replace it for some time. While cleaning all of the debris from around my grape vines, I found my sensor just laying on the ground next to a vine right here at my house.

Wishing you all the best out there!

Doug

2,065 posted on 09/18/2003 11:17:34 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: kayak
Here's something from the Washington Post about one of the hotels. I had read somewhere else about this but can't find the link now. The article I had read earlier said this hotel was had been "swept out" but was unoccupied. It would be nice to know the truth. Having been on the Outer Banks when a hurricane only passed by and seeing how extensive the damage was, several hotels on the beach being lost wouldn't be surprising.

But the wind that delighted the adrenalin junkies shredded the roof of the beachfront Best Western Hotel and collapsed a chunk of the venerable Sea Ranch Hotel, a tourist favorite already battered and weary from years of storms.

link

2,066 posted on 09/18/2003 11:25:40 PM PDT by pops88
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To: MEG33
LOL...you still up? Notice I have been relatively quiet today on this thread? Hahahahaha...just shaking my head at this storm.
2,067 posted on 09/18/2003 11:30:10 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Which one will lose? Depends on what I choose or maybe which voice...I ignore.)
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To: MEG33
I have experienced that myself. What a terrifiying experience. Don't cross water, no matter how shallow you think it is....
2,068 posted on 09/18/2003 11:30:28 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: kayak
If your name is as it implies, you might enjoy a little white water story.

My first ever rafting trip happened when I was young and foolish. I didn't want to embark in big water like the Colorado but I still wanted a few thrills. I had a six man raft and 5 equally foolish friends. We set out in a small creek near Copper Mountain. Well, the creek was small but boy was it steep and fast. It was springtime so there were still avalanches across the creek. We were barely able to get to the side to portage before getting sucked under them. Rock slides had brought down a number of trees which scraped off some of my companions and punctured air chambers in the raft. We would slam into rocks, throwing others off the raft. One poor fellow broke his ankle and there were only two of us left in the raft by the time we got to Lake Dillon. There were only two air chambers left too. A kayak would have been a better bet.

2,069 posted on 09/18/2003 11:35:30 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Colorado Doug
What was the flood that killed a lot of people in a Colorado canyon? I just remember my dad telling me about that when we went by the place when younger. The thought of people trying to hang on to the side of cliffs for dear life just freaked me out.
2,070 posted on 09/18/2003 11:36:16 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: rwfromkansas
What was the flood that killed a lot of people in a Colorado canyon?

That would have been the "Big Thompson" I remember driving up to see the aftermath when I was little. The damage was unreal. A dam broke. They didn't have a chance.

2,071 posted on 09/18/2003 11:43:57 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: HiJinx
I've lived in all those places (CA, OH, MS, TX, KS, MA) and more, and dealt with my fair share of bad weather. That's why I'm in Arizona now, with naught but drought or thunder ~n lightning to worry about!

Yes, but you have that awful bubble the blacktop heat -- and, :::shudder:::, BUGS year 'round! ;)
2,072 posted on 09/18/2003 11:46:10 PM PDT by Fawnn (God's in His Heaven (always true). All's right with the world (prayers needed for the last part))
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To: Colorado Doug
Doug, I enjoyed the story ..... but my name is not as it implies .... :-)

It's a play on my real name; this little ol' granny doesn't kayak at all. A lot of people have reached the same conclusion you did .... and for obvious reasons. I have found out there are a number of kayakers on FR .... :-)

2,073 posted on 09/18/2003 11:46:24 PM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: rwfromkansas
I have experienced that myself. What a terrifiying experience. Don't cross water, no matter how shallow you think it is....

I got to float down a street once in Salina KS. I just read a story a couple weeks ago about a fellow who drove across some water on a road near his house. It turned out that the water had cut a deep channel in the road. He was swept away into a river and drowned.

2,074 posted on 09/18/2003 11:48:57 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: kayak
Doug, I enjoyed the story ..... but my name is not as it implies

uh . . . nevermind :-)

on the other hand, it's never too late to start kayaking, or so I'm told. It's either that or you are going to have to change your name. ;-)

2,075 posted on 09/18/2003 11:53:45 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: kayak
well, i've been doing some weather site surfing...

i found that the NHC.NOAA.gov site (National Hurricane Centar) --> Maps&Images --> water vapor is most interesting. Looks like the center is now spread out a bit. Probably just north of the PA southern border, but spreading northward almost to NY.
2,076 posted on 09/18/2003 11:57:46 PM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: kayak
Well, as if this day wasn't bad enough before, I am now over at my stepdaughter's house, babysitting.




They think my son-in-law might have had a heart attack. :-(
2,077 posted on 09/19/2003 12:00:51 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: AFPhys
Ahh... let me correct that a bit. Center is over that little NE tongue of WV, and there are leading elements concentrating in advance of the storm in the NW area of PA - I guess that is a bit more accurate description.
2,078 posted on 09/19/2003 12:02:04 AM PDT by AFPhys (((PRAYING for: President Bush & advisors, troops & families, Americans)))
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To: Howlin
Oh my gosh, Howlin! Prayers starting up BIG TIME!!!

I was just heading to bed and checked my pings one more time. Do you need me to stay here a while for you?

2,079 posted on 09/19/2003 12:03:23 AM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Howlin
They think my son-in-law might have had a heart attack.

My prayers are with you and your family

2,080 posted on 09/19/2003 12:03:49 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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