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THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?
Dad / Chef / Author, CookingWithCarlo.vom ^ | Sept 12, 2003 | Carlo3b

Posted on 09/12/2003 7:21:01 AM PDT by carlo3b

THE DEBATE! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

A TRUE CAUSE FOR ALARM

While watching the debate last evening between the nine candidates for the nomination for the Democratic party, I was struck by the differences between those people on the TV and the people that I interact with everyday. It wasn't just the level of rhetoric spoken by the participants, one expects that the parties in a contest must clarify the divisions separating each, but it was the level of unmitigated bias and hatred loaded in the questions posed by the supposed news journalist, the answers given, and the audience responses. It was not only shocking, but very sad.

There seemed to be a visceral hatred, and a deep gulf between what we think of America in general and what they think of Americans in particular.

They have honed the art of fear, knowing if they keep an uninformed populous in constant fear, and demonize the other side with lies and falsehoods, unharnessed by a willing accomplice in the free press, they know that in the minds of far too many, Fear wins. Healthcare, Social Security, War, Recession, Race..THEY ARE COMING!

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken

Now please don't get me wrong, I am not a Milquetoast kind of guy on any issue, (HA!) but I am an eternal optimist by nature. It wasn't at all a surprise that I wouldn't agree with most, if any of the positions taken by every candidate on the Democrat ticket. Nor am I suggesting that all Democrats are un-American or anti-American because they disagree with me. I am afraid that we disagree on what are the most fundamental tenants of our form of government, natural law and a moral culture. They cloak their insidious message in a controlled dialogue, and feeding empty platitudes, like fairness, equality, inclusion, and diversity. When it is the very opposite that they practice.

"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."
-Johann von Goethe

There was an absence of pride in the tone of every speaker. There were no words of optimism, no claim of greatness on their part. Only lesser degrees of despair. At one point they argued over which one would take back the Bush tax refund money quicker, that the viewers had just received in the mail. Much to my shock, to the rousing applause of the audience. They couldn't articulate enough their utter disgust of our victory in Iraq, and their love of an international control of our sovereignty.

"The politicians don't just want your money. They want your soul. They want you to be worn down by taxes until you are dependent and helpless. When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson

They fed the illusion, that we must take more from the Americans that produce, and give more domestically, and world wide, to whom they define as those in need.

"From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need."
-Karl Marx

They mocked our morals, and spat out the hatred of their President and Commander-in-Chief, knowing full well that our enemy combatants are watching and that their words were going to bolster their resolve. They would rather do nothing than fight for our safety, peace through passivity, appeasement, and swords into plowshares. Abandon the war, and de-fund the military. That is now, as it has always been, the recipe for war. They are a ship of hope that seems bound to be sunk by the enemy of opportunism.  No matter how earnestly we seek world peace there is always some war bent person, who's ideology and ambition that will kill peace in its infancy.

"To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace."
-President George Washington

We must ask ourselves, all Americans, the single most important question defining our most crucial national interest.  If Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong II, Adolf Hitler, or Joseph Stalin, had a choice of whom they wished would win the next presidential election, which would the choose? Any of the nine candidates vying for the Democratic nomination, or President George W Bush?

The bottom line is I believe we are at a crossroads in this great country, and the two party system is at least working better than we even imagined. The divide is crystal clear. The Democrats have figured out that the more they make us dependent, the more power they have to keep feeding the insatiable beast, more taxes from the hard workers, less payers to object. In the end game, everyone is a victim, and socialism, as it always has, will fail miserably, and so will we all.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.
Alexander Tytler

The Republicans, for the most part, believe in the power of the people. However, to be elected, one must start with getting elected, and staying in power long enough to make the incremental changes to the betterment of all. But you have to get elected, and that sometimes is the Achilles heal of politics. Whom is saying what, to get in a position to do well, for the most, and which is a wolf in sheep's clothing?  That dilemma is fraught with danger, and we are more often sodomized that satisfied. Trust your instincts, but verify your conclusions.

Trust, but Verify
-President Ronald Reagan

But you must vote, and hope!

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."
-Plato

When we look at the results of every pole, and most elections.. it has a clear and defined separation between the givers and the takers, the can do, and the won't try. So far, we are winning, but only by a razor thin plurality.

"Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."
-Sam Ewig

And I, for the first time in my life, believe that I understand the pre War mentality. Stop it early, or suffer the regret, forever. I think I can see road signs, red flags, omens of history, beckoning us to beware of the danger ahead.

"History is a vast early warning system."
-Norman Cousins

The only thing that can bring the masses of those that will not educate themselves to the issues, or the consequences, is guidance and insistence. In that endeavor we can not be dissuaded. But should that fail, the only alternative is to out maneuver, overwhelm, and ultimately overtake.  Nothing short of the future of our Republic is at stake.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana

We must be stronger in our resolve, quicker in our responses, definite in our purpose.

"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have."
-Margaret Mead

It is we, who must bring this country together, sooner rather than later. It is we, who must take control of events before we, and all of America, have events control our destiny. Our country is divided, and it is we, who must bring it together before it is too far gone and much too late to repair.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure permanently half-slave and half-free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved - I do not expect the house to fall - but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other."
-President Lincoln

For those with the power of persuasion, must persuade! For those with the knack of organization, must organize! For those with the power of the purse, must spend for the cause.. donate!. And for all of us, VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE, and VOTE!

"Live free or die."
-New Hampshire State Motto



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KEYWORDS: 2004; alarm; debate; elections; liberalism; politics
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To: Hildy
Thank you Hildy, It's never too early to prepare.. This is a fight for the whole ball of twine!
41 posted on 09/12/2003 7:58:37 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
damn fine sauce
42 posted on 09/12/2003 8:00:40 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: carlo3b
Dang fine post! Thanks.
43 posted on 09/12/2003 8:01:55 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: MotleyGirl70
I felt as though I was watching a Saturday Night Live skit, and someone was going to turn to the camera and say "LIVE, IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT". but of course it wasn't it turned out to be a rerun of a b-class 60's slasher movie!
44 posted on 09/12/2003 8:02:48 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: theFIRMbss
Color me stupitt then, because I agree, even as disgusting as our media is. Liberty and individual freedom scares you, huh?
45 posted on 09/12/2003 8:05:46 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: Liberal Classic
Our goals are clear, we must take California, then WORK, WORK, WORK to take enough Senate seats (60) to let President pick some great judges!
46 posted on 09/12/2003 8:05:57 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Ditter
Hey Ditter, I watched the debate but came away with a very clear understanding that these nine pricks are SO unqualified to lead this nation that only morons will support one of them. Have faith brothers and sisters, the Dems have begun a slide from which they will not recover, even wih incessant support from the evil f&^%s in the mainstream media. Of course it is paramount to tell your friends and family the importance of voting against these destructive imps that wish nothing for the U.S. and only care about personal and political gain.

The left has outed itself in this country - as a bunch of whining, hand-wringing crybabies with nothing to offer. The American public will see this clearly. Have faith, AND REMEMBER TO VOTE!!!

God Bless.
47 posted on 09/12/2003 8:07:40 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: dansangel; carlo3b; All
This was a great post.. As dansy stated we did not watch the debate.. I have not fully recovered yet and I cannot afford a major rise in my blood pressure at this time, I know what was said without hearing. It's the same over and over
mindless dribble that is easily soaked up by the blind masses of democratic socialism......We must show them that we as a group have the intelligence to see thru there evil
ways...
48 posted on 09/12/2003 8:13:28 AM PDT by .45MAN (We are americans bound together by history and love of freedom. We will not forget!!)
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To: 68 grunt
>Liberty and individual freedom scares you, huh?

Slaves who just don't know
they're slaves are the most enslaved...
They can't even fight...

Social oppression --
mental oppression -- caused by
the media's fake

reality dropped
in everyone's mind SCARES ME
more than politics.

49 posted on 09/12/2003 8:13:33 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: mallardx
Mallardx,
Agreed, only morons will vote for these, and yes, we should try to tell friends and family who really don't spend the time to see the whole picture, however, when my husband and I try to do just that, the level that otherwise intelligent people we know have been brainwashed, scares the living daylights out of us for our future!! Thank God for the people here on FR, and especially you Carlo, for your excellent post!
50 posted on 09/12/2003 8:16:23 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus
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To: carlo3b
Was it Woody Allen who said we should fire every politician and fill the vacancies by picking random names from the phonebook? That sounds like a plan.
51 posted on 09/12/2003 8:17:30 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: theFIRMbss
'Reality dropped in everyone's mind' implies discovered reality. While you may have meant 'dropped from everyone's mind', I kinda think you've had a Fruedian slip.
52 posted on 09/12/2003 8:17:53 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: carlo3b; Mudboy Slim; scholar
First off Carlo, I didn't watch these clowns & must commend you for your intestinal fortitude & excllent report.

That said, the other day while listening to Rush?
He related an article written by someone in the (sittin' down? :o) ) *Associated Press* who vigorously questioned [some of the] comments made by (I think) Howard Dean which had everything to do with race and/or racial issue(s).

Rush complimented this writer for their having even *questioned* this guy since in the past that's not been the *mo* of an AP writer when its come to 'Rat politicians.
Rush further speculated Dean may be "falling out of favor" with the Lamestream press et al; which, may or may not be true.
Personally I found Rush's suggestion a bit much to believe based on one article's content since after all, we *are* talking about The Associated Press.

In any event, the thing I found most striking of all about the whole matter I've cited was that it sure sounded like Dean was actually trying to *emmulate* the kind of crap Clintigula used to routinely pull with such ease.

Could it be these 'Rat *candidates* {spit} are attempting to duplicate, or, at least personify on that which they *percieve* Clinoccio successfully pulled time & again over Its 8 year reign of terror?
Might it be that by trying to "copy" X42 -- in an effort to seperate themselves from the others -- they're forced to move further & further to the left which panders -- almost *solely* -- to the whacky extreme left.
The net effect looks like they *all* might just be shooting themselves in the foot with the more moderate 'Rats voters, too.

I mean after all Carlo my friend, we can agree on one thing about the entire 'Rat party, if nothing else.
There's not an original thought or idea amoung their collective bones or in therir pinsized heads.

These 'Rat candidates really can't do anything *but* copy what they *think* worked for the monster, as they've really nothing else to offer.

...but insoding they're invariably screwing it up, royally.

53 posted on 09/12/2003 8:18:06 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Alamo-Girl
It's always a pleasure my friend, to stir the pot, and see you surface! *<]:o)
54 posted on 09/12/2003 8:18:08 AM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: carlo3b
Carlo,
Excellent grasp of the situation, do you mind if I forward this to friends?
55 posted on 09/12/2003 8:18:49 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus
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To: carlo3b
bump for carlo3b
56 posted on 09/12/2003 8:19:04 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Semper Paratus
The nine dwarfs are just a performance act coordinated by their leaders, Hitlery and Billy Bob.

What a shame to have your leaders playing games with you and your country. Is this all they have to do? Make a silly little play of it. The sad part is they never offer solutions; they only blame others. If they do have solutions; what are they and why do they have to hide them in secrecy like Hitlery's health care plan? These are some of the questions the Dims should be asking their party leaders because their tactics of smearing others just ain't getting it anymore.
57 posted on 09/12/2003 8:19:08 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: 68 grunt
I responded wrongly. You proceeded the sentence with 'fake', and while I have to agree, I still prefer the latter, rather than the former.
58 posted on 09/12/2003 8:20:55 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: MotleyGirl70
self-ping for later read
59 posted on 09/12/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: staytrue
That is work hard, try to learn more everyday, obey the law, don't abuse drugs, and if you want kids, get and stay married.

Classic truth, very well said. But...

They were black, a sub nation separate and apart from the way the rest of us think.

There, you are tarring with a mighty broad brush, unless I'm misunderstanding you.

60 posted on 09/12/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by tictoc
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