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Davis Signs Immigrant Driver's License Bill
kabc 7 news ^ | 9/6/2003 | 7 news

Posted on 09/05/2003 9:50:52 PM PDT by Dallas59

DANA POINT — Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday criticized Gov. Gray Davis' support of a bill granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, the same day the governor signed the landmark legislation.

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Schwarzenegger, the leading Republican candidate in the Oct. 7 recall election, said Davis flip-flopped on his support for the bill and said it raises security concerns. The state attorney general's office on Friday raised similar concerns with the bill.

Schwarzenegger said he would try to repeal it if he is elected.

"As you know, our own governor was vividly against this a few months ago," Schwarzenegger said after a speech to the California Chamber of Commerce. "Now it's election time-- of course everything changes."

Granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants has become a central campaign issue in recent days as candidates sought to stake their ground on immigration-related matters. On Thursday, Schwarzenegger, a native of Austria who spoke little English when he arrived in the United States in 1968, said no candidate was as sympathetic to the plight of immigrants as he is.

"I don't need to get a lesson from anyone else about immigration because I've been there," he told The Associated Press.

Davis signed the bill before hundreds of cheering supporters at a Department of Motor Vehicles office in Los Angeles. The predominantly Hispanic crowd waved mostly U.S. flags as well as Mexican flags and those from various Central American countries.

"If you are going to contribute to our economy, you have the right to drive to work," he said afterward. "Everyone benefits by having drivers on the road who know the rules of the road and presumably be a safer driver."

Earlier, he defended his decision to allow the licenses, a privilege he said also is granted in Nevada and New Mexico.

"I think we have to be honest about our dependency on people to do jobs Americans will not," Davis said.

The governor said immigrants were likely to get behind the wheel, anyway. With a license, they would at least have to pass a driving test, he said.

The bill the governor signed will take effect Jan. 1. It will help illegal immigrants obtain licenses by allowing them to submit a federal taxpayer identification number or some other state-approved form of identification to the Department of Motor Vehicles, instead of a Social Security number.

Davis has vetoed two similar bills since he became governor, citing law enforcement's concerns about the legislation, but during a campaign rally last month said he would sign this version.

Critics said the governor was merely pandering to Hispanic voters, who account for about 16 percent of all registered voters statewide.

The bill did not contain features the governor demanded earlier, such as requirements that applicants pass criminal background checks and be in the process of obtaining legal documentation.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer withdrew his support of the bill this week after a provision was removed that required a high-tech identification system, known as biometric fingerprinting. Lockyer also is concerned that the new law creates a loophole that could make it easier for illegal immigrants to get guns if they lie on firearms application that they are citizens, spokeswoman Hallye Jordan said.

"The drivers' licenses have provide a safeguard in the past," Jordan said. "Now, if you have a drivers' license, there's no way to tell you are not a legal citizen. If you lie and say you are, California will have no way of rebutting that."

Steve Maviglio, a Davis spokesman, said millions of California residents already have licenses but aren't U.S. citizens; instead they're residents with a green card or who are working toward citizenship.

A group of conservative Republicans, including Sen. Tom McClintock, planned to launch a ballot initiative to overturn the law, said Jeff Evans, a spokesman for a group called Save Our License.

Also Friday, about 100 protesters rallied outside Schwarzenegger's new campaign office in Santa Monica, upset at what they said were disparaging comments about women attributed to him in a series of magazine interviews. In a 1977 interview, for example, the then-29-year-old bodybuilding champion discussed his sexual exploits and a group sex encounter in a Venice gym.

At one point, the organization, CODEPINK, unfurled a pink banner from a building across the street from the office that read, "Arnold, you're terminated."

"He owes an apology to women he has abused and the women of California," said Karen Pomer, a spokeswoman for the group.

A spokesman for Schwarzenegger dismissed the group's allegations as untrue and said the comments were taken out of context.

The actor appeared at the office with his wife, Maria Shriver, who expressed support for her husband. The couple left after greeting some of the estimated 300 volunteers at the event.

Earlier in the day, a panel of three federal judges refused to postpone the Oct. 7 recall election, removing one of its last legal barriers.

The panel in San Jose acted after the U.S. Justice Department made a formal determination that Monterey County's hurriedly assembled balloting plans did not violate the federal Voting Rights Act. Activists said the changes, which included a reduction in the number of polling places, disenfranchised minority voters.

An ACLU lawsuit challenging the use of punch-card ballots in six counties, including Los Angeles, is still pending in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. A hearing is scheduled Sept. 11.

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Last Updated: Sep 5, 2003


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Have an accident, high tail it to Mexico.
1 posted on 09/05/2003 9:50:53 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
This is so asinine. Ranks right up there with in-state tuition for illegals.

The guy substituting for Rush the other day (I can't remember his name) said that about 30 other states already have this drivers license for illegals law. Is that true? I find it hard to believe.

2 posted on 09/05/2003 9:54:21 PM PDT by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: Wphile
What's next? Biligual Road signs?
3 posted on 09/05/2003 9:56:49 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
LOL! You are probably right. They'll call that one a "road safety issue" too. I can't believe they came up with this bogus road safety argument. Absolutely pathetic.
4 posted on 09/05/2003 9:59:38 PM PDT by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: Dallas59
Is there a "immigration ping list" ?

I want to know when the first lawsuit is filed against this!

5 posted on 09/05/2003 10:00:59 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Dallas59
This also means any illegal alien can go get a gun once they have an ID Card or Drivers License.

See more about it here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/977086/posts

Regards,
Joe
Sonar5
http://aboutpolitics.net
6 posted on 09/05/2003 10:01:34 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Dallas59
"I think we have to be honest about our dependency on people to do jobs Americans will not," Davis said.

The only reason they do menial jobs is because they are being exploited by the people who hire them - their employers are taking advantage of their position of powerlessness and vulnerability stemming from their fear of discovery, making them incapable of negotiating meaningfully for better jobs or better pay.

It always sticks in my craw when politicians publically trot out this canard, it just emphasizes how the labor exploitation of illegal immigrants has become so common and so universally ignored by law enforcement that it's not even shameful anymore, that our own state's government is willfully and actively abetting it.

7 posted on 09/05/2003 10:02:30 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Dallas59
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8 posted on 09/05/2003 10:10:09 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Dallas59
Gray Davis decided to give Americans the finger. Its pretty lame reasoning when all you can say to justify this law is with, "Nevada and Arizona license them too so we might just as well get in on the action." Oh no, its too much to ask California to stand up for American principles. Politicians love to pander and if you think you've seen the height of pandering in this recall election, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.
9 posted on 09/05/2003 10:12:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mvpel
Its a rich sight to see liberals justify the exploitation of illegals to pad Corporate America's bottom line. Once they were against that sort of thing on principle. Now they want to play both sides of the street at once.
10 posted on 09/05/2003 10:14:19 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: All
¡Usted no puede arrestarme! ¡Soy un ciudadano mexicano!

"You can not arrest me! I am Mexican Citizen!
11 posted on 09/05/2003 10:19:28 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Wphile

These articles should warm the cockles of your heart...

Cornyn proposes plan for immigrant 'guest workers' (Amnesty)
      Posted by Sabertooth
On 07/11/2003 8:38 AM PDT with 14 comments


Dallas Ft. Worth Star-Telegram ^ | July 11th, 2003 | Dave Montgomery
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Orrin Hatch addresses immigrants(Illegal aliens)
      Posted by 4.1O dana super trac pak
On 09/05/2003 5:51 PM PDT with 47 comments


Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/52003 | Christopher Smith
WASHINGTON--Speaking at a rally of young undocumented immigrants who are urging Congress to allow them to attend public colleges at in-state tuition prices, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the country will "benefit enormously" by opening college classes to the children of people who entered the U.S. illegaly."We can choose either to keep these talented young people underground or we can choose to give them a chance to contribute to the United States," Hatch said at a Capitol Hill news conference Thursday to urge support of his "DREAM Act," the Development, Relief, and Education For Alien Minors Act.The Bill sponsored by...
     
 
Powell meets Mexican envoy, hopeful on immigration reform; "We may get results slowly but surely"
      Posted by Brian S
On 09/05/2003 7:09 PM PDT with 57 comments


AP ^ | 09-05-03
GEORGE GEDDA, Associated Press Writer Friday, September 5, 2003 ---------------------------------------- (09-05) 18:42 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Colin Powell said Friday after a meeting with Mexico's foreign minister that he believes progress may be possible in resolving long-standing differences with Mexico on immigration issues. Powell said that at November meetings with Mexican officials, the United States plans to offer ideas that "will demonstrate to the Mexican people and to Americans that we are serious about resolving immigration issues." Powell's meeting with Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez also covered the administration proposal for a new U.N. Security Council...

There are believed to be almost 4 million undocumented Mexican migrants in the United States. Mexico wants the United States to grant them legal status, but many in Congress believe that would reward people who broke the law. With Powell at his side after a 40-minute meeting, Derbez noted to reporters that migration reform legislation is pending. "We may get results slowly but surely," he said.

     

There are actually 4 million Illegals in California alone, at a minimum.


12 posted on 09/05/2003 10:22:57 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold wants Illegals to be legalized... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971733/posts)
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To: Dallas59
Scorched california policy.
13 posted on 09/05/2003 10:25:04 PM PDT by ampat
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To: Sabertooth
Is there anything else on your little mind than Amnesty? LOL!!!
14 posted on 09/05/2003 10:28:32 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you get all the conservatives in CA to vote for McClintock, he would still lose. Deal with it)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Why have my comments been removed, what was incorrect about that image?
15 posted on 09/05/2003 10:37:45 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
Are you sure you got the right thread?
16 posted on 09/05/2003 10:43:17 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you get all the conservatives in CA to vote for McClintock, he would still lose. Deal with it)
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To: Dallas59
"If you are going to contribute to our economy, you have the right to drive to work," he said afterward.

This is news to us real citizens who never had the right to drive anywhere.

17 posted on 09/05/2003 10:59:04 PM PDT by lowbridge (Texas Democrats. Saddam. On the lam together.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
"Is there anything else on your little mind than Amnesty? LOL!!!"




Quite a page you have. Please tell me the photo of the lady with the lions is you. *L*
18 posted on 09/05/2003 11:10:56 PM PDT by bart99
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To: bart99; Sabertooth
Please tell me the photo of the lady with the lions is you. *L*

No, but the one with the Sabertooth is me. Just ask him.

19 posted on 09/05/2003 11:17:47 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (If you get all the conservatives in CA to vote for McClintock, he would still lose. Deal with it)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; bart99
No, but the one with the Sabertooth is me. Just ask him.

She is indeed the pretty lady with the spear. Not afraid to use it, either.


20 posted on 09/05/2003 11:25:17 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold wants Illegals to be legalized... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971733/posts)
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