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The Nightmares of Choice:The Psychological Effects of Performing Abortions
Touchstonemag.com ^ | Sept 2003 | Rachel M. MacNair

Posted on 08/31/2003 12:50:47 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

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To: MHGinTN

they have been lied to for three plus deacdes

HOLOCAUST - Why They Help Them Lie

21 posted on 08/31/2003 1:48:31 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: 4mycountry
Why don't they just choose adoption? Why is it so dang hard to let a child live??

First of all, let me say that I'm as pro-life as they come, but I think I can answer your question. Or at least I can give a few reasons why they don't let the child live. First of all, being pregnant is not the most pleasant thing for many of us. I've had four children and I had night and day sickness for all nine months each time. I was even vomiting the week I gave birth to my third child. Believe me, if I knew what I was in for and didn't want to be pregnant and had no scruples or an understanding that I would be killing my child, I'd have an abortion. All this to say that "letting the child live" is a sacrifice. It's not always easy. I'm not making excuses for people who do get abortions, but I'm trying to explain why they might do so.

Secondly, I spoke to my brother's girlfriend once about an abortion she had. I couldn't believe how flip she was about it. Her comment to me was, "Hey, if I wasn't going to raise that baby, no one else was, either!" That's pretty sick, if you ask me.

But, not wanting to go through with the pregnancy is probably just being selfish. In our society, we don't think we should have to suffer, even if we have done wrong. We think only of ourselves.

22 posted on 08/31/2003 1:49:45 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (SAVE THE BLACK FLY)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

just glimpses at the eternity that faces each of them if they refuse to repent.

Isai 8-9 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

Hebr 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

23 posted on 08/31/2003 1:51:21 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname

I couldn't believe how flip she was about it. Her comment to me was, "Hey, if I wasn't going to raise that baby, no one else was, either!"

...Sadly enough, statistically speaking and I have to say this very carefully, statistically speaking women who have had abortions are less likely to bond to their children, and therefore these children are more likely to be abused and neglected. Also, women who were abused and neglected as children are more likely to have abortions. And I can tell you that wherever I have said this, in whatever kind of an audience, people have become really quite upset, sometimes very angry. But I think I can say that having done the research now over a number of years and published a number of papers, that that is a statistically significant connection. That is not to say that every mother who has an abortion is a bad mother, just not true. But it does say that this is something we had better look into, because people are very concerned about rising rates of child abuse, neglect. So that is one area. And that is how it got started. Abortion Survivors

Detrimental Effects of Abortion: An Annotated Bibliography with Commentary (3rd Edition). This expanded and newly updated edition is the most complete summary available of statistically significant studies on abortion. Compiled by attorney and post-abortion expert Thomas W. Strahan.

Elliot Institute director, David C. Reardon, Ph.D., one of the nation's leading experts on post-abortion issues is asking pro-life advocates around the country to donate copies of Detrimental Effects of Abortion to their local public, high school, and university libraries.

Though Reardon works full time on post-abortion research, he says Strahan's earlier bibliographies have always been his first reference source whenever he begins a new research project.

"Tom Strahan has performed a great service in tracking down all the best studies and organizing their finding in a way that is easily accessible to the average reader," Dr. Reardon said. "Without it, the task of searching for this material on the Internet or in a reference library would be overwhelming. Many of the best studies are simply not indexed under the keywords you would normally expect to find abortion complications."

Strahan edits The Research Bulletin for the Association for Interdisciplinary Research in Values and Social Change and has written numerous articles on abortion. He hopes this revised and expanded reference book will help people to better understand the range of risks associated with abortion.

"Most people think that because abortion is legal, it's safe for women, period," Strahan said. "They think that as long as the government says it's okay, then it must be good for our society. They don't realize that many researchers and scholars studying this issue have found that just the opposite is true." Best Reference Book on Abortion Complications Updated and ...


24 posted on 08/31/2003 1:59:33 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: 4mycountry
My father was the product of a 16 year old pregnacy in 1947. His mother left him at a local families house and has nerver tried to contact him. I think over and over that if she had the option she probably would have aborted him.

He is a wonderful person. Worked as many as three jobs at a time when we were growing up because he loved his family so much. I have never even heard him raise his voice to my mother.

My brother and I both have PhD's in mathematics and my sister has a Master's in teaching. We are all trying our hardest to be worthy of having this man for our father.

If my dad had been aborted how many 'choices' would this woman have made for all the people he has touched?


25 posted on 08/31/2003 2:01:11 PM PDT by math=power
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To: math=power
The evil of abortion on demand has an 'exponential' quality to it, don'tcha know!
26 posted on 08/31/2003 2:08:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: 4mycountry
Might I suggest that we should have the mother take it one step further, and keep her (dang) legs closed. (I'm using this as a courtesy to our catholic friends!) How hard is it to either do without, or even spend the $.25 to prevent, as opposed to the value of life?

Check in here to see what the Murderers are trying to prevent. Logan is one tough cookie, and continues to annoy the murderers because of his improvement.

27 posted on 08/31/2003 2:15:46 PM PDT by Maigrey (Proud member of Logan's Legion (Have you had your Logan Fix today?))
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
After reading this, I am on my knees begging God that if Hillary Clinton is elected president there will be no Supreme Court vacancies during her term.
28 posted on 08/31/2003 2:21:52 PM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
It won't matter about the SCOTUS if hatellary rodhamster is elected president ... the nation won't survive her four years ruling anyway! Her degenerate husband damn near ruined US, so she should be able to improve on his degeneracy, especially considering the headstart the current liberal pukes are giving with their obstructionist program designed to amplify the economic and social problems in order to confuse the clueless voters.
29 posted on 08/31/2003 2:42:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Terriergal
Just reading this is enough to give me nightmares... and I couldn't read all of it.
30 posted on 08/31/2003 2:56:49 PM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS; Askel5; *Death Cultivation; Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Carry_Okie; ...
Defenders of abortion believe that it is a form of medicine.
Opponents believe it to be killing.

[While Statists see it merely as yanking the seedlings of an overabundant commodity.]
31 posted on 08/31/2003 3:07:17 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Those banning G-d from public view, DEMAND YOU ANSWER ONLY TO THEM, would deny you Higher appeal.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Rachel MacNair is a former President of Feminists for Life.
32 posted on 08/31/2003 3:46:08 PM PDT by hillsborofox (refuse to choose)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Quite a post. Thanks for the ping.
33 posted on 08/31/2003 3:48:22 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Well that sure woke me out of my afternoon nap. Anyone want to ping the Arnold supporters?
34 posted on 08/31/2003 3:50:36 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: All
The link here is not for the squeamish:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/972779/posts
Abortions in progress
Center for Bio-Ethical Reform ^ | 2003

35 posted on 08/31/2003 3:52:46 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
To abort is to kill, when it comes to human life.
36 posted on 08/31/2003 4:07:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
Almost sounds like guys who kill women who left them because "if I can't have her, nobody will"
37 posted on 08/31/2003 4:17:59 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
Thank you for alerting me to this thread. As someone who has cared for babies weighing 2 pounds and less for the past 28 years, I am sickened that abortionists can justify killing viable children.

Nightmares? It's their soul crying out to them. Yet they turn away and continue their "medical practice".

38 posted on 08/31/2003 4:22:49 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
There is much evidence of the Lord speaking to individuals via dreams in the Bible. Could He not be speaking to those who commit these crimes against humanity?
39 posted on 08/31/2003 4:26:04 PM PDT by duckbutt (God Bless America.......Again!)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Thanks for the many links to important info. I have bookmarked this thread.
40 posted on 08/31/2003 4:29:57 PM PDT by maica (Land of the Free, because of the Brave.)
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