The Nightmares of Choice:The Psychological Effects of Performing Abortions

Touchstonemag.com ^ | Sept 2003 | Rachel M. MacNair

[arasina]

American Medical News reported this from the National Abortion Federation workshop: "They [those who perform or help perform abortions] wonder if the fetus feels pain. They talk about the soul and where it goes. And about their dreams, in which aborted fetuses stare at them with ancient eyes and perfectly shaped hands and feet asking, ‘Why? Why did you do this to me?’

Jesus Christ said, "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do." I pray those who do abortions or assist in them are sent many more dreams like the ones described in this terrific article. Many will turn away from what they will eventually really know is the killing of an innocent human life.

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

There is much evidence of the Lord speaking to individuals via dreams in the Bible. Could He not be speaking to those who commit these crimes against humanity?

The "Equal Creation" principles in the Declaration of Independence were the cry of the anti-slavery crusade for 30 years. Today most evangelical leaders and many presidential candidates reference the same document and the Creator's "endowment of unalienable rights" in the fight against big government and abortion rights. What they fail to mention is that this document is also an instrument of judgment. They overlook its "execution" provisions. In its first paragraph, the very existence of the nation is pinned to the "laws of nature and nature's God." For Jefferson's contemporaries, this phrase meant the Romans 2:15 law written on every man's heart, whether Christian or not, as tested by the Christian Bible. Abortion as "Shedding Innocent Blood" & Lessons Toward Repentance ...

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:16-19).

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

 

 

[nothingnew]

If my dad had been aborted how many 'choices' would this woman have made for all the people he has touched?

This is the lesson we all must learn. As in Capra's "It's A Wonderful Life", all people have a direct, or indirect impact on all mankind. Ergo, the "choice" affects many more people than just "them". I'm no Buddhist or Hindu, but I do know that my choices affect more than me.

I'm glad that your Dad survived, and that you did too........"It's a Wonderful Life"!

FMCDH

[Spiff]

May their nightmares haunt them unceasingly. May the visions of their bloody slaughter insist into their every waking thought.

[Mr. Silverback]

Looks like an outstanding resource over here.

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[Saundra Duffy]

God have mercy on us.

[Saundra Duffy]

Some of the Nazi butchers probably had nightmares about killing Jews. Same difference. But the ones with no conscience at all - abortionists and Nazi butchers - same difference. By the way, ABORTION CAUSES BREAST CANCER: www.AbortionBreastCancer.com

[Avoiding_Sulla]

For the pings, you're all welcome.

It provokes one to wondering how much it costs the truly efficient abortion mills to keep its employees on heavy enough drugs or other overindulgences. Mind averting activities must be necessary to stem death-farm attrition -- or at least we all should hope so.

Once the death culture can attain employees who remain inured and without such expositions of grief, we are all surely doomed.

See eruptions of human conscience as signs of redemption still being offered those so "afflicted." That, too, there is still hope for our nation as revealed all too infrequently by articles such as this.

For those afflicted by such nightmares, might not we all suggest to them less therapy and drugs, and rather more redirection of careers. Tell them "Go and practice true healing, and thereby undertake your own, deeper, recovery."

[luckymom]

I'm a volunteer in a crisis pregnancy center, and I spoke with a client on Friday who was proud to tell me she is pro-choice. We chatted while waiting for her test results, and I suggested that she give that opinion more thought, as abortion's not a quick-fix to a temporary inconvenience. I mentioned, for one thing, the memories carried for life after abortion- whether it's of the missed birthdays, reflecting on this child when others come along, or whatever. Her answer to me was that well, either way, it's tough- if you have an abortion or if you "keep the kid." Praise God- the test was negative and now I pray she still thinks about our talk.

[Delphinium]

Thanks for posting this, I copied a sent it to several people. Some will be offended I know but they need to face reality.

[cpforlife.org]

Thanks for posting this article and the ping.

FWIW - I think I can best answer the question, "How can we account for the practitioners’ problems, especially their dreams?" this way: An abortion "clinic" is in reality a holocaust chamber. It is a tangible, palatable, hell on earth. These people are daily working in a nightmare come true, of their own making.

I first visited the NATIONAL AMERICAN HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL on December 15, 2002.

I have been back many times since, and am now on the board of directors for the foundation, as well as the webmaster.

I have stood in those rooms with visitors and turned on the suction machines for them to hear. We all stand in silence staring at one another, there are NO words.

I have had my own nightmares, while sleeping and awake. About all the terribly brutal acts of violence that abortion is, and about America aborting herself.

" One dark day in January of 1973, SATAN donned judicial robes! Robes flowing, gavel in hand, he swept onto the floor of the United States Supreme Court. He presided over the most atrocious travesty of justice that ever took place, and he declared - we now have the 'right' to murder the most innocent, in what should be the safest place in the universe for them! And since then, tens of millions of babes have been assassinated in their own mothers' wombs! The darkness indeed grows deeper."

Fr. John Corapi S.O.L.T.

Audio Clip here

IMO – This may be the most powerful, and accurate, 52 seconds of speech about the American holocaust ever spoken.

For those who have not, please give this a close listen to. After listenting, take the Virtual Tour then go to Triumph at The Cross

Lastly, go to Abortion Videos , and watch Hard Truth.

"Ignorance sustained by denial is crippling this nations response to the holocaust of abortion; and when something is so disgustingly horrifying that we cannot stand to look at it, perhaps, we should not be tolerating it."

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

and when something is so disgustingly horrifying that we cannot stand to look at it, perhaps, we should not be tolerating it."

Is this your personal quote or someone else's? It's very good.

[cpforlife.org]

That is from Gregg Cunningham - The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, http://www.cbrinfo.org

It is in his intro remarks on "Hard Truth" which I believe is the most important 9 min. Video on abortion available.

[Brian Allen]

Bump!

[A-teamMom]

Amen.

[A-teamMom]

When I volunteered at a CPC, it amazed me that the girls never wanted any part of adoption. They would say that no one else was going to raise their baby. So, they would chose to parent the baby or abort. No life or life choice, just life or death. It was heartbreaking and frustrating.

[HungarianGypsy]

The best way to get free pregnancy tests was by going to the crisis pregnacy center. I had gone in twice (once with my first baby-- who was dead in utero, so it makes me sick thinking of the D&C and with my first living son). Each time they would leave me alone with the anti-abortion movies. With my third (living) child we had to get a test from a clinic in order to get insurance for the pregnancy. My two children and husband were with me, so I said, "I'm obviously going to keep my baby, so can we not show the anti-abortion movie?" We watched a movie about the baby's development instead.
I cannot understand how someone can not watch these movies and realize abortion is wrong. It's also interesting how the crisis pregnancy centers do follow-ups and even have abortion counseling, yet those who perform it do not.

[First Amendment]

Thank you for posting this. I wish it was required reading in all high schools. Unfortunately, it won't be. But if it at least should be required reading in all religious high schools.

I found this quote very compelling in its evil:

The other explanation is that people respond negatively because of a primitive or childish misunderstanding of the facts. The editorial in Obstetrics and Gynecology just quoted argued that "the child inevitably mixes fact with fantasy. Unable to conceptualize the whole process in sophisticated terms, the child thinks in concrete terms. He visualized an ‘egg’ in ‘the stomach’ and believes that a formed baby develops at the outset, growing for nine months into a full size infant."

This abortion apologist is taking undeniable evidence that the professional abortionists and helpers are being reminded by their consciences - referred to in the Vedas as Paramatma, or God in everyone's heart - that they are committing terrible crimes, and demeaning and denying that message from the heart.

Abortion is a crime against God, because it is He and He only who has the authority to decide when the person has to leave the world. To make that decision is directly rebelling against His supreme authority.

In the Vedic tradition, those who commit abortions - or have them - must experience the same thing themselves. The law of karma, or as it is said in the Bible, "as you sow, so shall you reap". This is an inescapable law, not a theory. So naturally such people would have horrible dreams about their impending suffering, that they are daily increasing, by continuing to cause that suffering to others.

That isn't to say if someone has an abortion is repents in complete sincerity to God, that she can't be forgiven. I am such a woman, and the number of times I have cried in shame, horror, self-digust, repentence, and a broken hearted sorrow cannot be numbered.

If someone - the day I murdered my unborn baby - had given me any truthful information, or offered me any help - I very likely would have made a different "choice". But I blame only myself, I only say this to encourage those who are activists, trying to reach out to women who are going to abortuaries, even if one every now and then changes her mind, you are doing a great service to God and humanity.

[Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS]

I am such a woman, and the number of times I have cried in shame, horror, self-digust, repentence, and a broken hearted sorrow cannot be numbered.

Isaiah 1:18: Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Phil.3:13-14 Forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus."

SAUL/PAUL:

Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
2: And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.

3: As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
2: And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:
Acts 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
6: And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

[First Amendment]

There is much evidence of the Lord speaking to individuals via dreams in the Bible. Could He not be speaking to those who commit these crimes against humanity?

I concur. Sometimes dreams are just the mind carrying on, sometimes it is God giving us a message of some kind, sometimes they get mixed. I had a dream once that I had just murdered someone, and the incredible weight of shame, horror, guilt - was like a thousand ton stone on my heart, leaving me breathless and lifeless. I woke up - and realized that the dream was not a fantasy, that I was a murderer, because of the abortion 20 years before. (I had been 18 at the time).

The dream was a ray of reality, not a fiction of the mind. The horror of the dream caused me to go yet further into repentence.

I thought I had already begged forgiveness from God, and had completely changed my life years before, but there are always deeper levels of repentence needed.