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Is this a "movement" or just a small footnote in our nation's history?
1 posted on 08/28/2003 10:38:48 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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2 posted on 08/28/2003 10:40:32 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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If it's not a movement, then our national history will just be a small footnote.
4 posted on 08/28/2003 10:41:15 AM PDT by patriotUSA
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It's a matter of freedom of religion, as well as our blessed history.
5 posted on 08/28/2003 10:41:47 AM PDT by Libertina
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Time will tell. I think this is definitely a bump in the road, but sadly, I think it will have to get worse before we see any real traction from the entrenched beauraucrats.
6 posted on 08/28/2003 10:42:37 AM PDT by =Intervention= (Those who cry the loudest that principle matters not are the most suspicious.)
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I truly hope it is a movement. It could be like Rosa Parks. It could be like Dred Scott. I hope it changes everything.
7 posted on 08/28/2003 10:45:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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Dobson, who has managed to worm his way onto the evening news for years, tries to hijack the reputation and nobility of the Civil Rights Movement for a church-subsidized artwork whose presence in the lobby of the Alabama Supreme Court benefitted no one - certainly not anyone in the other 49 states - and irritated some people who were compelled by circumstance to come to the courthouse. That artwork - essentially a massive church altar - could legally be put in a whole flock of places, but just not a govt building where some people are compelled to come in hoping for equal treatment regardless of religious affiliations.
8 posted on 08/28/2003 10:46:13 AM PDT by DonQ
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Dr. Dobson

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 08/28/2003 10:46:21 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." -- Thomas Paine)
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""Is this a "movement" or just a small footnote in our nation's history?"

There has been a breakdown in the moral fabric of our society – a breakdown in our culture. The U.S. Constitution was designed only for a moral and religious people. When morality disintegrates, the value of the Constitution ceases to have meaning.

10 posted on 08/28/2003 10:46:32 AM PDT by Ginosko
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What next? The logical progression of all of this is that at some point they pull this out of the ground:


11 posted on 08/28/2003 10:48:02 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sobig stinks...)
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Is Secession an option for most conservatives?
16 posted on 08/28/2003 10:54:10 AM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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I'm not a big Dobson fan, but I sympathsize with his comments here. The First Amendment is suppose to guarantee freedom of religion, but the ones who hold the advantage in our society today are the Seculofascists who are bent on eliminating all references to religion in our culture, particulary the Christian religion. They oppose the presence of a monument to the Ten Commandments in the entrance to a courthouse, and push their will through to have it eliminated, and yet who does that monument hurt? No one. They simply oppose it out of spite.
25 posted on 08/28/2003 11:03:18 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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Where was the good doctor in the 60s, anyway? Was he marching with the civil rights protestors, or was he hooting and hollering in glee on the sidewalk as Bull Connor turned dogs and firehoses on peaceful marchers?

In fact, I noticed a few decrepit oldsters in that sobbing crowd gathered round Roy's Rock. What were they doing when their governments were denying voting rights and the right to even try and participate in local economies to blacks? Dobson can try and invoke MLK, but that dog won't hunt, and Dobson isn't a fouth of the man MLK was.

43 posted on 08/28/2003 11:11:43 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("What if the Hokey Pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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Well, we've disagreed on other things, but we'll probably agree here!

I think it is a movement...the ACLU types have over-played their hand. Whatever they gained (or think they gained) by forcing the issue of the monument will be overwhelmed by the opposition they will focus.

And they picked the wrong place to do this. If they'd done this in New York City or San Francisco or Seattle, they'd have probably gotten away with it unharmed. Doing this in the deep south is going to blow up in their faces.

56 posted on 08/28/2003 11:20:30 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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I love Dr. Dobson.

Sadly, the "back of the bus" strategy won't help Conservatives at all. The media hate us, plain and simple. They will not give Christians the same support that Dr. King was given during the Civil Rights movement....and that is clear.

But don't lose heart. God is soverign.

62 posted on 08/28/2003 11:24:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Dr. Dobson declared, "We are not going to the back of the bus!"


No doc... keep it up, and your radicalized followers, WILL go to prison... or revolt in violence against the laws, just because you egged themon.

Buy a clue Dr. D., "Obey the law Christian." It's scriptural.
78 posted on 08/28/2003 11:33:35 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (We need a new war... the *--WAR on GLUTTONY--* to save America...)
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The problem isn't that the 10 commandments isn't present in the building - the problem is that the commandments aren't written on the hearts of the people.

I'd gladly take every Christian monument and public reference down and out if God's ways were written on all of our hearts.

Here's what I'm talking about.

85 posted on 08/28/2003 11:37:13 AM PDT by Bosco
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I think we need to come up with a new title other than civil "rights." The only way you can have your "rights" upheld is if they're wrong.

Shalom.

89 posted on 08/28/2003 11:40:37 AM PDT by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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He wouldn't like a Buddhist or Muslim monument on public property, would we?
90 posted on 08/28/2003 11:41:31 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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seeing that most of Alabama's Christians did NOT show up to block removal... at best this is a failed attempt to start a movement... people instinctively know that religion and state are not good together... and see it as UNconstitutional.

The fact is that only about 3000 showed up for the last "prayer vigal" and they were at least 50 percent "out of staters" according to the reports I read. 1500 alabamans at the maximum actually were there...

And the last count I heard about folks blocking removal physically was less than 100... and they too were out of staters.

The judge is getting more support from the socialist christians here on freerepublic than he has garnered in his own state.

With a nation of 120 million plus "Christians"... the silence is quite deafening.

A movement? Puhleaze.....
It's not even a footnote...
95 posted on 08/28/2003 11:45:47 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (We need a new war... the *--WAR on GLUTTONY--* to save America...)
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Go Jimbo Dobson go! That goes double for Roy Moore!
121 posted on 08/28/2003 12:04:58 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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