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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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What Wesley said about Robert Wendland, at his memorial service. If you can read this without crying, you are a much stronger person than I am. Recall that Robert escaped dying from forced dehydration that his wife tried to use to kill him, but later died from pneumonia. ------------------------------------------

"I never met Robert Wendland. But I will never forget him. And I will never forget those who struggled so valiantly to save him.

ROBERT PROVIDED ALL OF US WITH A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY. IT WAS THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY WE FACE AS HUMANS -- TO LOVE OUR BROTHER WITHOUT CONDITION OR EXPECTATION OF REWARD.

IT WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOVE ROBERT WENDLAND, JUST FOR BEING ROBERT WENDLAND:

Not because he could fish.

Not because he was a son, father, brother, and husband.

Not because he sold auto parts and supported his family.

Not because he spent his last years as a disabled man.

BUT JUST BECAUSE OF WHO HE WAS -- ROBERT WENDLAND, HUMAN BEING.

AS I HAVE PONDERED THE MEANING OF THE GREAT STRUGGLE WE EXPERIENCED TOGETHER OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, I HAVE COME TO SEE THAT ROBERT OFFERED THE WORLD A GREAT GIFT—HIS UTTER VULNERABILITY -- WHICH CAST A MAGNIFYING MIRROR UPON US ALL.

IN MANY WAYS, OUR REACTIONS TO ROBERT TOLD US MUCH ABOUT OURSELVES:

WHO WE ARE AS INDIVIDUALS

WHO WE ARE AS FAMILY

WHO WE ARE AS MEDICAL AND LEGAL PROFESSIONALS

WHO WE ARE AS CLERGY

WHO WE ARE AS CHRISTIANS

WHO WE ARE AS A SOCIETY

IN SOME CASES, THAT IMAGE REVEALED THE IMPERFECTION OF THE HUMAN CONDITION.

BUT THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR RECRIMINATION. IT IS A TIME FOR HEALING. IT IS NOT A TIME FOR ANGER, BUT FOR LOVE. AND SO OUR PRAYERS ARE TO FORGIVE THEM, LORD, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO. MORE URGENTLY, FORGIVE US, LORD, FOR OUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS ARE GREAT.

THE REFLECTION THAT ROBERT WENDLAND CAST ALSO GAVE US A GLIMPSE OF THE TREMENDOUS BEAUTY OF THE ONE IN WHOSE IMAGE WE ARE ALL MADE:

A MOTHER’S INEXHAUSTIBLE FOUNTAIN OF LOVE

THE DEVOTION OF LOYAL SIBLINGS

AN ATTORNEY’S UNBREAKABLE COMMITMENT THAT HONORED HER PROFESSION AS IT REVEALED THE GOODNESS OF HER OWN HEART

THE WILLINGNESS OF AN UNKNOWN NURSE TO RISK HIM or HERSELF TO TRY AND SAVE A LIFE

THE RALLYING OF PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE WORLD WHO NEVER KNEW ROBERT WENDLAND PERSONALLY, BUT WHO CARED ABOUT HIM AS ONE OF THEIR OWN.

BUT NOW, IT IS FINISHED. ROBERT’S WORK AMONG US IS COMPLETE.

AS WE MOURN HIS ABSENCE, LET US ALSO REJOICE THAT ROBERT DRINKS THE WATER OF LIFE FROM LIVING SPRINGS. HE IS WHERE THERE IS NO NIGHT. For Robert now, as for us someday, DEATH AND SORROW, CRYING AND PAIN ARE GONE. ALL THINGS ARE NEW AND HE ABIDES IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD FOREVER.

AMEN.

Wesley J. Smith
July 28, 2001 Stockton, California

2,581 posted on 09/09/2003 6:27:49 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: windchime
Well you know....I am the scouter of info of the past. Seems like that and prayer are what I have to offer...
2,582 posted on 09/09/2003 6:28:53 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: TheSpottedOwl
preachin' to the choir here brother....
2,583 posted on 09/09/2003 6:31:58 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: windchime
will be back on later after lil buddy is snoozin'
2,584 posted on 09/09/2003 6:32:45 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: pc93
I made one mistake.. the sentence with the mistake should read:

The complete fraud, which the State of Florida's
Attorney General Charlie Crist has sworn to battle
against is now staring us right smack in the face.
2,585 posted on 09/09/2003 6:34:26 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: MarMema
"Well you know....I am the scouter of info of the past. Seems like that and prayer are what I have to offer..."

Those contributions are of ultimate value in saving Terri.
2,586 posted on 09/09/2003 6:37:40 PM PDT by windchime
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To: TheSpottedOwl
he ran a restaurant, i believe

off for some cuddle time...my favorite time of day.

2,587 posted on 09/09/2003 6:38:54 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: All
Anyone who gets Comcast cable in the NJ/Phila area, Lynn Doyle's show right now is discussing Terri, her brother is on as well. Channel 8 here in Somerset Co, NJ. They are discussing her total lack of stimulation at the behest of Michael etc.
2,588 posted on 09/09/2003 6:48:13 PM PDT by agrace
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To: Theodore R.
probably all Masons
2,589 posted on 09/09/2003 6:51:45 PM PDT by attagirl
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To: kimmie7
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/090903_nw_schiavo.html

Schiavo Case Hearing Set for Thursday
(Tampa, Florida-AP) - September 9, 2003 — In Florida, lawyers in the Terri Schiavo case are engaged in last-minute legal maneuverings as the removal of her feeding tube draws near.

Circuit Judge George Greer will conduct a hearing Thursday to set a date for removal of the feeding tube keeping the 39-year-old brain-damaged native of suburban Philadelphia alive.

Today in Tampa, an attorney for her husband -- Michael Schiavo -- filed an emergency motion with a state appeals court designed to trump some 11th-hour legal maneuverings by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

The Schindlers are trying keep their daughter alive despite her vegetative state and doctors' opinions that she will never recover.

Michael Schiavo's attorney -- George Felos -- is asking the appeals court to step in and make sure the feeding tube is removed.

(Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Last Updated: Sep 9, 2003

 
2,590 posted on 09/09/2003 6:59:20 PM PDT by syriacus ( Prankin' Al Franken says---My letter to Ashcroft was not a lie...it was a prank. 9/7/03)
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To: syriacus; kimmie7
Hmmm, restaurant manager. Just pondering how all this came to be in the first place. It just seems to me, without getting my tinfoil hat, that there is some kind of connection besides the hospice.
2,591 posted on 09/09/2003 6:59:57 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Davis has just been downgraded from eGray Hooker to 2 dollar whore...)
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To: syriacus
Fair and balanced.
2,592 posted on 09/09/2003 7:04:12 PM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
Thank you for all the information.
Down to the wire, once again.
God grant the Schindler family and friends strength, and some measure of comfort, while they continue to battle the courts for Terri's life.



2,593 posted on 09/09/2003 7:06:35 PM PDT by sarasmom (Pray for Terri Schiavo.)
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To: sarasmom
I don't know, I don't contribute anything here. I am on the learning curve....but look out when I complete this filling of my brain with everything out there I can find. ;-)
2,594 posted on 09/09/2003 7:08:30 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: MarMema
"BUT JUST BECAUSE OF WHO HE WAS -- ROBERT WENDLAND, HUMAN BEING. "


Whether it's the defenseless child in the womb, or the disabled person in the nursing home, our society has somehow gotten to the point where their lives don't matter, they have nothing to contribute to our utilitarian, consumer-crazed culture. In this society, people are 'things' to be used and discarded.

Wesley Smith has so beautifully expressed the truth that people ARE NOT OBJECTS.
They are persons, made in the image and likeness of God. And as such, they are PRECIOUS and IRREPLACEABLE. Heaven help us if we continue down this path!
2,595 posted on 09/09/2003 7:09:36 PM PDT by Deo volente ("Judge Greer, recuse thyself!")
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All; kimmie7
Did I just hear correctly that Greer recused himself this evening? If so, congratulations, freepers for helping put public pressure on EVERYBODY!

I just heard this on wfla 970 radio but there's a baseball game on so I shut it off.

2,596 posted on 09/09/2003 7:10:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: TheSpottedOwl
If I recall correctly, it was an attorney friend associated with his employer that suggested to Schiavo that he obtain the sole guardianship of Terri.

Again, if memory serves, this was 48 hours after her collapse and the parents relinquished all guardianship. The name of the restaurant was mentioned in that part of the thread, also. It wasn't a large chain restaurant.

Wonder why he wasn't automatically assumed to be her sole guardian, since he was her husband.

Maybe there are connections here somewhere.
2,597 posted on 09/09/2003 7:12:06 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Deo volente
Yeah, the more I read from Wesley the more I like him.

I personally thought that was one of the more beautiful things I have read. I am going to put it on my FR page. It is all about what is important.

2,598 posted on 09/09/2003 7:15:22 PM PDT by MarMema (KILLING ISN'T MEDICINE)
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To: floriduh voter
Here

http://www.970wfla.com/fla_localstory.html?ID=20030909182503
2,599 posted on 09/09/2003 7:15:37 PM PDT by windchime
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To: floriduh voter
NO WAY! Tha would be such a blessing!!!!
2,600 posted on 09/09/2003 7:15:53 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (...where even the mosquitoes use bug spray.)
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