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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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1,321 posted on 09/04/2003 7:44:02 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (...where even the mosquitoes use bug spray.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; floriduh voter; kimmie7; MarMema; Deo volente
Some eyewitness impressions of the court testimony of "Dr. Humane Death," one of the drs solicited by Felos to bring testimony against Terri. Pretty sickening, provides some perspective with which to view the Michael Schiavo team - http://www.notdeadyet.org/docs/shiavoday6.html
1,322 posted on 09/04/2003 7:58:17 AM PDT by agrace
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To: lakey
Thanks! I gues we all need to be careful to only click links from those here who look familiar!
1,323 posted on 09/04/2003 8:13:26 AM PDT by honeygrl (Jacksonville Beach HERE I COME!! Everyone beware! Female looking for fun on the way soon!)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I have 2 little ones too and a hubby that works 9am to 8pm most nights lately. I know how it is! Mine are 2 1/2yrs and 10mths.
1,324 posted on 09/04/2003 8:36:09 AM PDT by honeygrl (Jacksonville Beach HERE I COME!! Everyone beware! Female looking for fun on the way soon!)
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To: agrace; kimmie7
This is a really ugly situation. IT LOOKS LIKE SANCTIONED MURDER. It's the warehousing and extermination of our fellow citizens who fall under a very foggy criteria. It's like when in gym class, people who were little like me, were always picked last.

The will to live be damned. The Dr. Deaths of the world Will decide if you have a will to live!!!!

We must keep calling Governor Bush and also call the RNC Constituent Services. If no Republican looks into this, maybe our Republican leaders are invertebrates after all. RNC 1-800-445-5768. Web site is: http://www.GOP.com. Thanks, everybody. FV

1,325 posted on 09/04/2003 8:42:17 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: agrace; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL; pc93; kimmie7; floriduh voter
Cross reference to other posts:
Jerger
mobile home insurance
information sharing software
St. Petersburg Junior College
Dunedin
Florida state politician

Another name that came up while researching Jerger (influential FL family, insured mobile homes, Jerger involved with Schiavo in insurance co. run out of Schiavo sweetie's (Jodi Centonze) home the other day

Steve Beaty.

Florida Trend, Sept 2000 v43 i5 p16

Full Text: COPYRIGHT 2000 Trend Magazines, Inc.

Steve Beaty signed on in April as chief information officer for St. Petersburg-based Bankers Insurance Group and already has his grand plan in place. He wants Bankers, by the end of this year, to host the websites of its highest-producing agents. [snip]

Agents will obtain forms online and see what customers are ripe for cross-selling. Bankers also will be their portal to planning vacations online.

"We want to be an MSN for agents," Beaty says.

Beaty, 41, started as an industry outsider with his own company, Micro Business Systems, providing software to independent agents. For Pinellas Park-based The Jerger Co., he developed a pioneering program that allowed it to quickly identify mobile homes by ZIP code and park. Thus, it could grow into the largest independent mobile home insurer in the Southeast, even as it spread its risk so that a single tornado didn't mean catastrophe for Jerger. In 1986, he sold Micro to Jerger and became its chief information officer. When Jerger was sold this year, Beaty jumped to Bankers.

[snip] Beaty says he not only has a vision, but "I see it in color."

Side interests: Beaty does political work for Republican state Sen. Jim King of Jacksonville and Republican state Rep. Dennis Jones of Seminole. "I don't think there any one person who knows computer programming better than the Steve Beaty," Jones says.

Community: Beaty is a past Grand Knight of the Knights of Columbus and is president of his homeowners association in Dunedin. Advice: Beaty, a St. Petersburg Junior College dropout tells students to finish school. "I was lucky in life" and had the skills and right situations, he says.


1,326 posted on 09/04/2003 8:46:27 AM PDT by syriacus (Is Terri suffering from severe depression, on top of the insult to her brain?)
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To: floriduh voter
28. The year before, non-party co-conspirator George J. Felos, Esq., (hereinafter
"Felos") had begun advising Mr. Schiavo as trial counsel to devise a strategy for securing
the termination of Terri's food and water.

Note: Year before 1997.. the year that Felos was on paperwork (I have copy of this paperwork) that indicated
he was on the board of the Hospice Suncoast.
1,327 posted on 09/04/2003 9:06:07 AM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
I am feeling so defeated today. Nobody cares. I spoke to my editor, no interest in running Terri's story.
1,328 posted on 09/04/2003 9:08:13 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: syriacus; kimmie7
Kimmie, syriacus' post about the mobile home business is an eye opener. How can Michael Schiavo's residence be the official address of the insurance company and in addition, they have a program to identify the zip codes of all mobile home parks. They are either mining for seniors to scam for insurance, then make them sell out and meanwhile while Felos is mining for other potential hospice patients? The fleecing of seniors by Jerger? and Terri's exit protocol are LINKED at the residence of Michael Schiavo and that's on the record. That's the way I see it.
1,329 posted on 09/04/2003 9:20:59 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: kimmie7
Don't worry. If this thing comes to a head and they get closer to the despicable "exit protocol", you're going to see a lot of people suddenly take notice, almost immediately!

These stories can develop overnight, and the whole country could end up getting on board.
Now, if only they could cancel this darn Recall election out here. There's a news blackout on anything else, so far, and it's getting a bit frustrating.

Let's just stay on the job, and continue quietly working for Terri. This is a time of testing for all of us.
1,330 posted on 09/04/2003 9:29:33 AM PDT by Deo volente (Nothing is impossible for God.)
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To: kimmie7
cross reference:
George W Greer
biography
St. Petersburg Junior College
Florida state politician
Dunedin
running

Did we have this on Greer before?

Greer graduated from St. Petersburg Junior College before he went to Florida State!

From 1998:
http://www.clwbar.org/resipsa/march98/judgeS.html

Other info on that page:

As early as 1972, he began working in judicial campaigns for Judges Phillip Federico, Grable Stoutamire and Burton Easton. In 1973, the Judge was hired to help create a city charter for the Town of Largo.

Board of Adjustment from 1979 to 1984,

As [county] commissioner, he backed the Pinellas Trail, Penny for Pinellas sales tax and a redesign of the widening of the Courtney Campbell Parkway.

Some say that his political prowess was such that when a prospective opponent learned that the Judge was the opposition, the opponent sought another seat.

In January 1993, Judge Greer was assigned to the Juvenile Division. He was reassigned to the Probate, Guardianship and Trust Division in August 1994. In January of this year he was assigned to the Family Law Division. Judge Greer is experiencing a strong learning curve and is eager to mention that the lawyers have been especially kind to him. He reads everything he can find on family law and talks with other judges and lawyers. In February, he completed the Family Law Certification Review Course. The Judge brings a special talent to the bench, having been a custodial and a non-custodial parent.

His first position after graduation was with Wolfe, Bonner & Hogan. From 1969 until 1992, he was a sole practitioner.

More info at that article, which may have been posted here before (sorry).
1,331 posted on 09/04/2003 9:32:46 AM PDT by syriacus (Is Terri suffering from severe depression, on top of the insult to her brain?)
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To: agrace
That man has some serious answers to give.
1,332 posted on 09/04/2003 9:34:29 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: syriacus
I had seen that, but I think I put it in my Favorites list to read another time....this was just the other night though.
1,333 posted on 09/04/2003 9:40:29 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: floriduh voter
A bump to the top and a prayer for Terri's safety and protection
1,334 posted on 09/04/2003 9:41:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: All
I just had an idea. How about contacting NewsMax.com about this.

I was thinking of their Editor-in-chief, Christopher Ruddy. He's an investigative journalist, one of the best around. He wrote the book "The Strange Death of Vince Foster" and was way up near the top on the Clinton enemies list. He's also a Catholic (I think), and this story would be pretty compelling to him, don't you think? NewsMax.com reaches a lot of people!

Here's the contact page for all their writers. You can Email him from this page.
I'm working on a note, and will direct him to this FreeRepublic site. I think it's worth a shot!

http://www.newsmax.com/comments.shtml
1,335 posted on 09/04/2003 9:45:56 AM PDT by Deo volente (Nothing is impossible for God.)
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To: pc93
I found a blurb online that indicates Felos accepted a new term as hospice chairman of the board in Dec 1997. He became Schiavo's attorney, according to terrisfight.org, in May of 98. I have found no info whatsoever to indicate that he resigned from the board.

Chairmen going backward from present are as follows - no exact term dates, Suncoast website has no dates whatsoever on any material -

Sharon Miletich - new this summer/fall

Martha Lenderman - previous two years (she's the sister of a judge who serves in Family Law with Greer) - 2001-2003

C. Guy Hancock - 2 years before her - 1999-2001

If terms are 2 years (speculating), then it stands to reason that Felos' term was for 1997-1999. I found no info for a chair prior to Hancock, so it could have been Felos, if he didn't resign, or it could have been an interim serving out Felos' term. Who knows.
1,336 posted on 09/04/2003 9:53:14 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
BTTT for this woman's life!

If Greer does issue this order, I don't understand how that would not be considered some sort of homicide?!?! This woman is perfectly capable of living her life, and is responsive to others, yet he wants to issue an order to remove the tube & kill her (no other word for it, really)?

I wish the parents could have the husband (whom I'm guessing put her into this state) removed as legal guardian, and somehow file on behalf of their daughter for divorce from this guy.

I am actually speechless at this whole situation.....
1,337 posted on 09/04/2003 9:54:25 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow
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To: syriacus
You know, I have to look further into the whole mobile home, insurance, seniors, hospice thing. It's bugging me for its potential connections.
1,338 posted on 09/04/2003 9:55:11 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
BTTT for this woman's life!

If Greer does issue this order, I don't understand how that would not be considered some sort of homicide?!?! This woman is perfectly capable of living her life, and is responsive to others, yet he wants to issue an order to remove the tube & kill her (no other word for it, really)?

I wish the parents could have the husband (whom I'm guessing put her into this state) removed as legal guardian, and somehow file on behalf of their daughter for divorce from this guy.

I am actually speechless at this whole situation.....
1,339 posted on 09/04/2003 10:01:19 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow
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To: trustandobey; All
I'm already there and thankfully, a safe distance from Attorney Felos' office and also from Judge Greer's Court of Death.

BTTT AND all, please see my tag line.

1,340 posted on 09/04/2003 10:01:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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