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Illegals busting education budget
WND ^ | 8-24-03 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 08/24/2003 3:58:57 AM PDT by JustPiper

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To: Laur
So the issue is not immigration; it is legal v. illegal immigration. It is who gets to determine immigration policy -- the potential emigre, or the host country. >>>>>>>>>


BINGO !!! And it is WAY PASTIME for the US President to inform Vincente Fox/Mexico they they are not in charge of US immigration dept.

Or any other country that thinks their going to aid millions of their poor to get into the USA illegally.
141 posted on 08/25/2003 12:19:43 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: PRND21
You can tell legal status by sight?

California's Proposition 187 required proof of status for free public education. The left found a federal judge to block the law.

143 posted on 08/25/2003 12:20:08 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Can another Fed reverse the ruling or must the process be started over?
144 posted on 08/25/2003 12:22:46 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: The Other Harry
They pay taxes. They pay a larger percentage of their incomes in taxes than you do.

They consume services in far greater dollar amounts than the taxes they contribute. Don't play the damn percentage game either. If they make under $40,000 per year, they aren't paying any net income taxes. It is income taxes and property taxes that provide the general fund revenues from which education is funded.

BTW, while I was a California resident, I paid the max rate for state income tax AND 28% federal AND max rate for all social security and related taxes. My overall tax rate was far higher than any illegal alien and the total taxes confiscated are orders of magnitude more than they even earned in gross income.

145 posted on 08/25/2003 12:30:10 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PRND21
If you have a problem with their welfare cards, vote Arnold.

Oh?

Last year, while campaigning for his Prop. 49 after-school programs initiative, Schwarzenegger...declared in answer to a question from the audience: "I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter."
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/7287229p-8231859c.html
146 posted on 08/25/2003 12:32:49 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: KC_for_Freedom
How do you find the Virginians Harry?

I might have missed your question on the first pass.

Virginians are just fine. They tend to leave other people alone. That is the way I think it should be. (Comments do not apply to northern VA.)

We have illegals here too. And, since you mentioned paramedics, I am starting EMT training in about three hours. That should be a good way to become better acquainted with everyone. All the better elements of the community.

One thing I am wondering about is whether they will allow me to take an Ithaca 16 gauge shotgun with me when I go on calls. I think probably so.

147 posted on 08/25/2003 12:36:32 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: JustPiper
And I'd love to see the statistics on Illegal Mexicans and rape!

For a very long time, the crimes committed by hispanics were lumped under "white". That helped the lefties hide the impact. Now, we have separate categories for "non-hispanic, white" and "hispanic, white" to keep crime stats. Surprise! Guess where the criminal activity lies? It's not hidden anymore. My wife is charged with doing the data input for our city.

148 posted on 08/25/2003 12:38:24 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: The Other Harry
"They pay taxes. They pay a larger percentage of their incomes in taxes than you do."

This has to be one of the most jaw-dropping, stupid statements EVER posted on this forum.

149 posted on 08/25/2003 12:39:00 PM PDT by spectre
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To: Myrddin
They consume services in far greater dollar amounts than the taxes they contribute.

You don't know this. No one does.

150 posted on 08/25/2003 12:40:17 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: JustPiper
The Administrations and the retirements is what is busting the budgets, the illegal aliens are just the icing on the fat cake of bloaded waste that the fat liberals stick the greasy Nazi paws into.... look to the administration buildings and state bodies to find the real criminals in the educational system.
151 posted on 08/25/2003 12:40:24 PM PDT by Porterville (If your liberal, you are evil, and you will go to hell)
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To: spectre
This has to be one of the most jaw-dropping, stupid statements EVER posted on this forum.

No. Yours comes first.

152 posted on 08/25/2003 12:42:33 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Roscoe
Interesting link...I hope he's changed his stance.
153 posted on 08/25/2003 12:44:07 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: txdoda
LA county was "murder capitol" last year, & has been turned into a DUMP.......Ca jails are 25% illegal.

Four shootings this weekend in Salinas. Gangs out of control...it was funny. On the TV news broadcast, all the people they interviewed were "hispanic"; one guy said in broken English "it's not safe here anymore". No Sh**, Sherlock. Now it's just like home in Mexico.

154 posted on 08/25/2003 12:44:57 PM PDT by Regulator
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After looking over the replies on this post I will repeat it again:

IT IS THE ADMINISTRATIONS AND THEIR FAT BENEFIT PACKAGES THAT ARE BUSTING THE SYSTEM.... REPEAT THE MANTRA.... THEY ARE THE EQUILVALENT OF THE BOUGOUSIE OF YESTER YEAR. THEY ARE MARXIST FINDING SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME, MISDIRECTION... USE YOUR HEADS

155 posted on 08/25/2003 12:45:08 PM PDT by Porterville (If your liberal, you are evil, and you will go to hell)
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To: The Other Harry
Now, let's say $10 of that $40 went to buy quart bottles of cervaza. Another $5 went to buy gas for their beat up old car. $5 went to pay rent. The remaining $20 got sent back to Mexico.

There is no harm in any of that. >>>>>>>>>


hahaha........Your mex's drank their cervaza, then "worked" on more mex. babies (for taxpayers to support). Hope they didn't have a head-on, "in their old beat up car" (cause many have NO insurance/ DL), MORE cost to taxpayers. The 20 sent home helped pay for the "next crop" to be smuggled across our borders.


But. I glad YOU see "no harm in this".........you must not have a family member crippled for life by a DRUNK, ILLEGAL, mexican with NO Insurance on his "old beat up illegal car", that "the other harry" might have paid to do illegal work.



156 posted on 08/25/2003 12:46:20 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: PRND21
It's starting to look like his contradictory stances flutter in the wind.
157 posted on 08/25/2003 12:46:53 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: spectre
They pay taxes. They pay a larger percentage of their incomes in taxes than you do.">>>>>> sez 'the other harry"

This has to be one of the most jaw-dropping, stupid statements EVER posted on this forum.>>>>>>>>spectre's reply


I'm with you spectre ( the most jaw-dropping, stupid statements EVER posted on this forum.) "The other Harry" JUST posted (# 139) he thinks illegals send HALF their wages home, now he thinks they pay MORE taxes than Citizen's.
158 posted on 08/25/2003 1:00:00 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: txdoda
But. I glad YOU see "no harm in this"...

Your understanding of economics and $3.50 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Any day.

159 posted on 08/25/2003 1:02:49 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: Regulator
Four shootings this weekend in Salinas. Gangs out of control...it was funny. On the TV news broadcast, all the people they interviewed were "hispanic"; one guy said in broken English "it's not safe here anymore". No Sh**, Sherlock. Now it's just like home in Mexico.>>>>>>>

Yes, it's terrible what our gov't has ALLOWED to happen to the state of CA. I lived in (used to be) beautiful So. CA in the 1960's, & still have relatives in the Frisco area. Now here in TX we are fast being invaded too.
160 posted on 08/25/2003 1:14:24 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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