Illegals busting education budget

WND ^ | 8-24-03 | Jon Dougherty

[The Other Harry]

More BS from you. Most of the farmers in my area of Idaho don't depend on illegals. They harvest using large farm machinery.

Try harvesting strawberries with machinery.

I don't know about potatos, but I can tell you that if you drive between Santa Cruz and Monterey, CA, every day you will see people out working the fields. Most of them are probably illegal immigrants.

Would you want to do that job? Would your kids?

Maybe so. I know I would not and mine would not.

Again: These are not bad people. They work hard. They have come here to try to improve their lives. Same way we did.

The problems are in the way we deal with them. We could do much better than we do. We keep them as an under-class. This is basically a Democratic party policy. They want to keep them poor and dependant. I do not.

You want to throw them out. But they contribute quite a lot to our country. To the extent that they consume a disproportionate amount of social resourses, that can be fixed. Most of it.

There is no need to go bashing. They don't deserve it.

[The Other Harry]

I'll be your ex-juniper bush is laying in a neighbor's yard nearby, instead of properly shredded and placed in a landfill. The responsiblity for properly dealing with your garden problems is now another person's headache. But, you saved money.

I took the juniper to the dump. Yes, I saved money.

You think I was going to hire a contractor and pay $500 to get that juniper removed? It would still be there.

As it was, some money got spread around. Not much, but some. It didn't hurt the ecomony. It didn't hurt anyone. And the juniper got removed.

I planted a very nice fern in its place.

[Myrddin]

You claim they are good people, yet law enforcement can tell you they are not. The illegals don't make enough from the cash work and often resort to criminal activity to make up the difference. That activity includes burglary, robbery, drug dealing, rape, auto theft and battery. It happens every day. The Calfornia prison population is 25% illegal aliens. Oh, I left out murder too. All those extra beneficial behaviors to keep our law enforcement folks fully employed, our courts full and our prisons filling. Just so you can have some cheap produce at the market. There should be a huge tax put on that "cheap" produce to pay for the impacts of illegal aliens on public infrastructure.

They have come here to try to improve their lives. Same way we did.

No, they didn't come here the same way we did. They crossed the border illegally and obtained employment illegally. My ancestors arrived from the UK on the Mayflower and also at the establishment of Jamestown. My paternal great grandfather emigrated from Wales in 1863 and arrived via Ellis Island.

I have many friends from Wales that are now U.S. citizens. They had to wait in a lottery process from 3 to 7 years before being permitted to emigrate to the U.S. They were required to have a financially stable U.S. citizen sponsor them and assist them through the naturalization process. The illegal Mexican don't follow the process. They jump the border, obtain illegal employment and often arrange access to our welfare systems by creating an "instant citizen" care of the 14th amendment.

[JustPiper]

Your reasoning ability stuns me.

[JustPiper]

What amazes me is the cultural erosion. The hypocrisy of the Mexicans. They are supposedly devout Catholics, thus the reproducing like bunnies, but that is where their catholicism begins and ends!

[JustPiper]

Raids, if we took all the good people of America and made a human chain(like Hands Across America) on the borders and refused to let them in, maybe then the government would get it?

[scottlang]

This is truely shocking news, the next thing I will hear is that fire is hot and water is wet. Sarcasm off.

[CheneyChick]

They pay taxes. They pay a larger percentage of their incomes in taxes than you do.

Dude. Lay off the crack.

[JustPiper]

[Porterville]

Reproducing like bunnies???? I see white people having kids everywhere especially ones in the trailer park... hey do you live in the trailer park??? Your mentality sure sounds like it...

[JustPiper]

Not even close. I live next door to people who work, collect aid for their kids, all under 7 (4 of them), two babies under 2 and they are Mexican. All you need to do is read the population stats from the Census, and only imagine those not on the census (illegals) to see how huge the Mexican population explosion is here. They comprise nearly 50 % of the US and in a short amount of time. Have you not read this entire thread or are 'you' living under a rock. If your Mexican American and this does not apply to you, then I am sorry if I insulted you.

[JustPiper]

You know what? This oldtimer read your profile, please save your time responding.

[JustPiper]

The other harry has a counterpart a few posts down -g-

[CheneyChick]

You are a blind idiot.

You talking to me? If so, you should learn to read more carefully before spouting off.

[CheneyChick]

Borders, language & culture, my friend....... These must be protected.

[Porterville]

Oops, I spelled stuff wrong in that post becuase I'm a lazzzzzy Hispanic, too lazy to use my spell check.