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To: Myrddin
More BS from you. Most of the farmers in my area of Idaho don't depend on illegals. They harvest using large farm machinery.

Try harvesting strawberries with machinery.

I don't know about potatos, but I can tell you that if you drive between Santa Cruz and Monterey, CA, every day you will see people out working the fields. Most of them are probably illegal immigrants.

Would you want to do that job? Would your kids?

Maybe so. I know I would not and mine would not.

Again: These are not bad people. They work hard. They have come here to try to improve their lives. Same way we did.

The problems are in the way we deal with them. We could do much better than we do. We keep them as an under-class. This is basically a Democratic party policy. They want to keep them poor and dependant. I do not.

You want to throw them out. But they contribute quite a lot to our country. To the extent that they consume a disproportionate amount of social resourses, that can be fixed. Most of it.

There is no need to go bashing. They don't deserve it.

181 posted on 08/25/2003 11:02:58 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
You claim they are good people, yet law enforcement can tell you they are not. The illegals don't make enough from the cash work and often resort to criminal activity to make up the difference. That activity includes burglary, robbery, drug dealing, rape, auto theft and battery. It happens every day. The Calfornia prison population is 25% illegal aliens. Oh, I left out murder too. All those extra beneficial behaviors to keep our law enforcement folks fully employed, our courts full and our prisons filling. Just so you can have some cheap produce at the market. There should be a huge tax put on that "cheap" produce to pay for the impacts of illegal aliens on public infrastructure.

They have come here to try to improve their lives. Same way we did.

No, they didn't come here the same way we did. They crossed the border illegally and obtained employment illegally. My ancestors arrived from the UK on the Mayflower and also at the establishment of Jamestown. My paternal great grandfather emigrated from Wales in 1863 and arrived via Ellis Island.

I have many friends from Wales that are now U.S. citizens. They had to wait in a lottery process from 3 to 7 years before being permitted to emigrate to the U.S. They were required to have a financially stable U.S. citizen sponsor them and assist them through the naturalization process. The illegal Mexican don't follow the process. They jump the border, obtain illegal employment and often arrange access to our welfare systems by creating an "instant citizen" care of the 14th amendment.

183 posted on 08/26/2003 1:25:28 AM PDT by Myrddin
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