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UK: Racial Privacy Initiative
Black Britain, Pam Kelly, RPI ^ | 18AUG03 | Black Britain

Posted on 08/21/2003 8:10:59 PM PDT by familyop

What Yvette Falarca, BAMN, is covering up is the fact that the vast majority of Californians do not at all fit into any of the categories of "race" that Felarca supports.  And all Californians are being

forced by their own government to fit into a generic category which doesn't apply, except it benefits very specific interest groups.  What else she is not telling here that is that some cases, if one does NOT provide a "race" for a government sponsored or government subsidized entity -- one can not either get the service nor do particular transactions through the state.  In any other time in the world's history, this would have been called "segregation".  Vote YES on Prop 54 to end this hideous branding of people by generic means, or the "look" test.    The government categories of exclusionary race are now well over 100.  But, if one were to offer endless boxes to "check" equal to the exact population of every individual in California -- you'd have the Racial Privacy Initiative.  Standard 'race" medical exemptions, law enforcement are in this init to cover these realities, federal statutes remain in place. 

My question to the opponents is:  Is your place of employment, your entity being subsidized by the state to segregating approximately 30 million people into non-applicable categories so you can collect taxpayer subisidies?

Pamela Kelly, California


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Racial Privacy Initiative
The Racial Privacy Initiative when it becomes law will forbid the state of California from identifying its citizens by race, except in very limited contexts such as medical research and law enforcement ...

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Racial Privacy Initiative (RPI) is a California constitutional initiative that will come before voters in California's election in October 2003. The Racial Privacy Initiative when it becomes law will forbid the state of California from identifying its citizens by race, except in very limited contexts such as medical research and law enforcement.

The Initiative provides, "The state shall not classify any individual by race, ethnicity, color or national origin in the operation of public education, public contracting or public employment" - this is also Section 32 (a) is added to Article I of the California Constitution.

Also called Proposition 54: The Classification by Race, Ethnicity, Color, or National Origin initiative (CRECNO) It will be listed as Proposition 54 on ballot papers for California elections on October 07 2003. If approved by California voters it would prohibit the collection of racial information about employees and students at any state institution from 01 January 2005.

The Race Privacy Initiative is the brainchild of Mr. Ward Connerly. It was through his efforts that California was able to vote in 1996 to eliminate race preferences in state education, hiring and contracts.

Mr. Connerly said the aim of his current initiative is to get the state government out of the racial classification business and move the state of California one step closer to a colour-blind government.

The issues contained in this initiative are being increasingly blurred in the United States. For example, the 2000 census in the US allowed Americans to categorise themselves in 63 different ways, by ticking as many different boxes as they felt applied to them.

Education remains one of the key areas of debate. In Mr. Connerly's view education administrators have obsessively focused on the race of every one of its applicants and the racial makeup of every incoming class. However he opines the academic gap between so-called "under-represented minorities" and other students continues to widen.

He adds, "...By removing race from the equation we will force our state government to look at actual people and solve real problems, rather than rely on the proxy of race. The feeble quality of education in many schools, particularly those in low-income areas, is indeed a serious concern. But why do educators need to know the race of a fourth-grader who can't read in order to know that the child must be taught to read?...".

Other supporters of the Racial Privacy Initiative (RPI), say passage would mark a giant step toward a colour-blind society. They argue that the state's system of racial classification is outdated and point out that the system has been used in the past to segregate schools and identify Japanese during World War II for internment.

Ms. Diane Schachterle, initiative coordinator for the campaign said:

Racial classifications have no place in an equal and free society, and the whole racial classification system needs to come to an end. So the Racial Privacy Initiative is a measured step for the California government to begin to move away from the use of race".

However some affirmative action supporters are campaigning against the ballot measure, deriding it as the "Protect White Privilege Initiative."

One other group By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), which describes itself as a militant "new civil rights movement," stated that the Racial Privacy Initiative was a racist tool of segregationists.

Ms. Yvette Felarca of BAMN said, "It's called the Racial Privacy Initiative, but it actually seeks to keep racism private. Proposition 54 is an anti-affirmative action that would increase the level of racism and segregation in California that's already been made to be unacceptable because of the ban on affirmative action with Proposition 209. It provides a cover for the continuation of white privilege and inequality in California when it comes to, for instance, enrollment at the state's flagship public universities. This society is saturated with the question of race and racism. That white privilege continues to exist and institutional - not just individual - but institutional racism continues to function".


Other opponents include the California Teachers Association, the Mexican American Legal Defence Aid, the Sierra Club and the University of California's Board of Regents.

Another view was that should race issues be taken out of the public domain and structure, it may increase the prospect of peace.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 54; california; connerly; election; england; initiative; privacy; prop; proposition; racial; rpi; uk; ward
Go California. It doesn't matter whether or not Ahnold supports Prop. 54. It's on the ballot. Pass it.
1 posted on 08/21/2003 8:11:00 PM PDT by familyop
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To: mhking
You PING others for these, so here's a PING.

Let me know if you want me to stop.
2 posted on 08/21/2003 8:14:45 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
Nothing would make me happier than an end to the "official racial classifications" forced onto us by the gov't, even just the CA gov't. However, though I can understand why medical research is exempted, what about law enforcement?

The Racial Privacy Initiative when it becomes law will forbid the state of California from identifying its citizens by race, except in very limited contexts such as medical research and law enforcement.

While I don't think a law should stop the police from describing a wanted person as "black" or "white", we should stop collecting crime data according to racial categories (if we really want to be consistent under the RPI).

Other opponents include the California Teachers Association, the Mexican American Legal Defence Aid, the Sierra Club and the University of California's Board of Regents.

Ah, yes, the Sierra Club... proving again that environmental protection is not its only issue. In fact, judging from the amount of junk mail we receive from them, the environment doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all to the Sierra Club.

3 posted on 08/21/2003 9:54:49 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Yours:

While I don't think a law should stop the police from describing a wanted person as "black" or "white", we should stop collecting crime data according to racial categories (if we really want to be consistent under the RPI). ,end,

The RPI will not stop the police from carrying out legitimate duties of apprehending criminals.

Passage of the RPI (www.racialprivacy.org) codifies anti-racial-profiling measures into the California Constitution -- a real first for any state in the nation.

...Alia

4 posted on 08/22/2003 8:13:02 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Alia
The RPI, even.

;-)

5 posted on 08/22/2003 8:44:42 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Alia
Thanks for posting the link below which says:

Because the value of data collection is dubious and the cost potentially enormous, RPI prohibits state-mandated data collection in the context of law enforcement but does not foreclose the possibility should local agencies want to bear the costs and risks of this experimental reaction.

That's what I wanted to hear. I'm glad to see that racial data collection would be prohibited, to a certain extent, without prohibiting officers from referring to race in the descriptions of wanted criminals. Hopefully, this will pass in CA, and the rest of the country will follow suit.

6 posted on 08/24/2003 2:34:52 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: familyop
Looks like my message above should go to you, too.
7 posted on 08/24/2003 2:37:04 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
The science of understanding combinant Race DNA is so very inconclusive. Therefore, our racialists here in CA can only rely upon "skin color" as a means to suggest certain medical tests (tay-sachs, sickle-cell); HOWEVER, the very same racialists are all over the map decrying racial profiling (and I concur) -- which is, of course, what they do in the course of "using" the science of race to apply medical techniques/tests. Are they nuts or what? :)

...Alia
8 posted on 08/24/2003 10:19:15 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Yours: "Ah, yes, the Sierra Club... proving again that environmental protection is not its only issue. In fact, judging from the amount of junk mail we receive from them, the environment doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all to the Sierra Club."

I posed the following in another discussion group, in re yours on Sierra Club:

If one posits that refineries only build their 'stacks' near black communities; and those black communities have higher incidences of asthma -- is this then evidence of lawsuit to the refinery? Or are blacks more inclined to asthma when they live around refineries? As we both know, income is the issue here. It is not a race issue. But can be readily made to appear as a "medical"-DNA issue. Or grown into one.

Ergo, an asidem interest by Sierra Club (aka: "Just gotta nail those deep pockets")
9 posted on 08/24/2003 10:23:12 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Tired of Taxes
"That's what I wanted to hear. I'm glad to see that racial data collection would be prohibited, to a certain extent, without prohibiting officers from referring to race in the descriptions of wanted criminals. Hopefully, this will pass in CA, and the rest of the country will follow suit."

Agreed.
10 posted on 08/25/2003 9:39:12 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Alia
Yeah, I'd say they're pretty nuts, too. I just had a "conversation" (if you can call it that) on another forum with some Democrats in California who are calling this Proposition the "Ignorance Proposition" and claiming that it is racist. But, they're not basing their claims on the language of the Initiative - oh, no, they're basing it on who's supporting the RPI.

I hope this measure receives more support and passes, even though I don't live in CA. I'm hoping that the rest of the country will then follow the RPI example.
11 posted on 08/27/2003 12:43:18 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Alia
It is not a race issue. But can be readily made to appear as a "medical"-DNA issue. Or grown into one.

Absolutely!

12 posted on 08/27/2003 12:44:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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13 posted on 08/27/2003 12:47:03 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Tired of Taxes
Dear TofTaxes, I do understand why they call it the "Ignorance Proposition". There are very clear medical exemptions in Prop 54. Opponents ignore this. You see, my own two cents here is that they are ignoring the exemptions and but only to continue hammering for "universal" health care -- Hillary's big wampun. It doesn't matter that in CA all people (ALL) in low-income status or without medical insurance MUST be treated at any and all hospitals at taxpayer expense. This is the little spinning lie the opponents do not wish any to address or to even look at. You see, they'd much rather rail that fine men like Ward Connerly are trying to "kill" minorities. They know exactly how positive the Prop 54 exemptions are; but Dems and Libs do not work with Republicans. Period.

Republicans, OTOH, ALWAYS work with Democrats. And the #$!@#% media NEVER points any of this out. You bet! opponents are not basing their 'complaints" upon what is actually IN Prop 54. No, no.. they are doing the diverting "thing" again. And slurring reputations. Opponents know how to be sneaky, cunning, and viscious. But work with anyone with an opinion diverse from their OWN? It can't be done. (Thanks for listening to my rant!) :) And thank you very much for your kind words and enlightened response, TofTaxes.

Alia

14 posted on 08/27/2003 5:31:36 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Alia
There are very clear medical exemptions in Prop 54. Opponents ignore this. You see, my own two cents here is that they are ignoring the exemptions and but only to continue hammering for "universal" health care

I think you hit the proverbial nail right on its head, so to speak. One of the Democrats on a particular forum is a woman who claims that she works for an epilepsy organization. The first thing she said was that RPI would prohibit her organization from compiling statistics to help "segments of the population." When I referred her to the RPI link and the clause exempting medical treatment, she claimed that the clause doesn't exempt her from collecting statistics to find out which "segments of the population" are "under-served". I suppose that means her organization receives funding according to the skincolor and facial features of its patients. What a hustle! (I could understand if epilepsy afflicted people with a particular ethnic/racial ancestry more than another, but even she says that it doesn't). I'm guessing that money is behind their opposition to it, too.

15 posted on 08/29/2003 6:38:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
Whoa! Epilepsy? If she's getting grants and funds from the Fed Gov -- nothing changes. Prop 54 will stop the CA government from misuing these race boxes. Most these programs are not necessarily being used to help the "deserving", IME, but to keep middle men, corporate giants, and academics in state funds and grants. You might not be so surprised to learn how many "human" grants get money under "race" boxing. Did the woman say she was in CA? I wonder if "boxed" people know the ways in which they are being treated as lab rabs for testing and researching..

But when opponents continued to go over the top on the "medical exemptions" clause -- that clued me in fully. That they were attempting to set the stage for Hillary Care/Universal healthcare. They weren't worried about the medical exemption clause -- they refuse to in real time discuss it - Their fears, their worries. They are lobbying for a political agenda at the national level -- seemingly not very worried about scaring to death a gadzillion minorities in CA through their false claims -- INSPITE OF THE FACTUAL, WRITTEN WORD - the exemption clauses within Prop 54.

16 posted on 08/29/2003 2:50:24 PM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Alia
Did the woman say she was in CA?

Yes, she did. But, she doesn't seem to know what she's talking about. She just hates conservatives - I'm sure you know the type. I even pointed to the clause that said something like "collection of racial data in order to receive federal funds is exempt," but she ignored it.

And, how ironic that anyone who supports this initiative is demonized as "racist". I have three sons, each of whom could be "classified" as "black". The gov't's "racial categories" and "race studies" and "racial preferences" only seem to create a stigma. And then the people who want to remove that stigma are called "racist". And the sheep fall for it! Unbelievable!

Well, thanks again for your comments.

P.S. I was going to just now link you to another thread on RPI that I just noticed starting. Then I realized you posted it... lol.

17 posted on 08/29/2003 8:30:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (I'm tired of this screenname, too. It was the only one I tried that wasn't taken.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Dear Tired of Taxes -- ignoring what they do not like is one of the premier tactics of the left. Witness the media. And then WHY so many are turning to alternate news.

In re your sons -- I tried, in experiment, registering one of my daughters as a "minority" at 6 different colleges, years ago. Of course, I had her there with me -- they took one look at her, and said "nope": She's not a minority. I said "her daddy is a minority"... Long story short -- I learned how quickly the "look test" was being used to support the use of those little boxes. Made me wanna modify that great line from the BBC Series: The Prisoner -- I am not a box, I am a free man!

18 posted on 08/30/2003 8:07:53 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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