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IBM lays off 15,000, HP 1300 [Outsourcing]
The Register ^ | 8/21/2003 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 08/21/2003 9:44:06 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer

Veteran IBM-watchers know how testing it is to read one of the company's financial statements. In the early days of the cold war, Churchill described the Soviet Union as "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". But compared to earnings releases from companies such as Apple and Sun - who provide terse and lucid declarations - you can be forgiven for thinking of IBM's announcements as a cloud wrapped in a fog containing a temporary heat-haze.

However, this much is clear: IBM has shed 15,000 jobs in the past quarter: 1400 from the microelectronics division and a staggering "14,213 Global Services personnel" in response to "the recent decline in corporate spending on technology-related services". To balance the books, IBM also bunged its recent acquisition, PwC, by almost $400 million.

In an SEC filing posted last week, IBM maintained that demand was strong. So strong, it had to conduct a private pogrom in its own services division. Clearly, something doesn't add up - even by IBM's own admission.

Perhaps an email from a soon-to-be redundant HP employee to The Register sheds some light on the situation. HP announced earnings this week that fell below expectations and added that it would make 1,300 "unexpected" human sacrifices to cover the shortfall. In contrast to previous "sheddings" of fluff in the "labor market", the middle class now feels the pain.

"Sorry but I'm due in early Sunday to train my replacement in Bangalore," the (almost) ex-HPer explained. "It's because of the time difference."

Offshore drilling

Hidden beneath the already hard-to-find news of job cuts is a massive transfer of IT resources to India and China. While only a few years ago we were promised a "Long Boom" of infinite prosperity, by "gurus" such as Wired executive Kevin Kelly, it now appears that every tech job can be cut or outsourced with impunity. Kelly is never happier, by his own admission, than when he's lying down in Pacifica dreaming of insects.

For the rest of us, needs are rather more pressing.

Not to appear to be picking on IBM or HP in particular, there doesn't seem to be a tech job left that's safe.

This has yet to emerge as an election issue, although it represents an assault on middle class expectations that's unparalleled in peacetime. But it is important and needs some context.

As the world's largest democracy, and with a philosophical and scientific tradition that (outside the Muslim world) is second to none, India has every reason to look upon the recent occidental outbreak of what we call "capitalism" as a temporary aberration.

It's worth nothing that in common with his fellow Victorian political economists, Marx found the oriental model so strange that he excluded it from his theories entirely.

But outbreaks of tech independence abound. The People's Republic of China has shown both a cavalier disregard for Western IP (aka "intellectual property") and boasts a proud confidence that its own homegrown talent can transform a pay-for "IP" import into an indigenous social resource. [See Trade Wars II: China shuns Qualcomm - no CDMA tax! - EU frets over China's 3G plan and Motorola gambles big on Linux, Sinocapitalism for more details].

Given China's astonishing historical legacy of engineering excellence, this is far from foolish. Dammit, weren't our kids supposed to bring home the bacon?

On this side of the Gulf, we're sure to hear cries of anguish, as the parents of expensively educated middle-class kids learn that their investment (and, in the US, this can be upwards of $120,000 per child) has gone offshore.

Which brings us to a particularly anxious conundrum. The prosperity that we felt was assured, and by rights, ours in the West no longer belongs to us. Those college dollars look like a poor investment, when a cleverer Indian can perform the same task for a tenth of the salary. So why did we spend all that money? Who, at what point, added enough "value" to justify the investment?

It's a good question. In a historical perspective the Indian, Muslim and Chinese engineers whose forefathers created so much of this intellectual infastructure are only reaping their due rewards. For Western kids, however, this does seem a bum deal. "Weren't we supposed to be clever[-er] than everyone else?" a recent graduate asked me recently. Well, er, actually no.

Smarts is as smarts gets.

Forget your O'Reilly PERL course, and follow the money. A course in Mandarin or Arabic is probably the shrewdest investment a parent can make right now.

Go west, my son... and then keep going

The inexorable logic of digital capitalism has rewarded companies such as Dell, which add no value, and pare costs to the bone, and ruthlessly punished systems companies such as Sun and Apple, which invest in R&D. For reasons best known to themselves, these companies invest in the hard stuff that can't easily be commoditised. Logic suggests that such companies are the bulwark against copy-cat Oriental opportunism.

While you might think much of the above is facetious, the West faces a very real problem: we have a surfeit of well educated kids who, if we accept the orthodoxies of asset-stripping capitalism, simply can't compete with foreign competitors without tilting the playing field.

When capitalism went digital, the first casualties were manual laborers. Now that skilled engineering jobs are being transferred offshore, the middle class is in the firing line, and this poses a very real crisis for a large and not-entirely unimportant section of society. Go to college, learn tech skills and - oops, sorry - you're job has just gone offshore. Please accept this redundancy slip and some small token that your worthless (hard-earned) contribution has enriched the global economy. Or as the creepier types insist, the global "eco-system".

Technology once promised us vistas of endless prosperity, and saw itself aloof from the obligations of political economy or globalisation. Now these pigeons are coming home to roost, and "technology" is more of a liability than it is a blessing.

It's dry, academic stuff to be sure. But when jobs are being lost on such an extraordinary scale, scarcely reported, is there a politician bold enough even to raise the issue?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: hp; ibm; outsourcing
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Your government looks out for the interests of whoever pays them bribes, I mean, campaign contributions. Let's get real here. It has always been so.
241 posted on 08/21/2003 11:54:11 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Texas_Dawg
This thread should be labelled:

"The death of the entrepeneurial spirit"
242 posted on 08/21/2003 11:54:45 AM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
This thread should be labelled: "Historical trends cannot be denied."
243 posted on 08/21/2003 11:55:29 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: theDentist
Good for you, glad to hear you are back in, although I imagine there's a lot of trepidation in the workplace.

Lack of capital investment, lack of R&D, bad ( no make that terrible) bean counting and sheer greed driven stupidity led to the curent meltdown.

What's the solution?


244 posted on 08/21/2003 11:56:28 AM PDT by ladysusan (Where's it going to end?)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Free-Market Trade and the Global Economy, Wallstreet, the Corporate World, the Media love it - why don’t you? When the stock market rallied no one complained about all the H1b’s and outsourcing, went on just the same as today.

“Professionals and college grads have to deal with the growing pains of the Global Economic Community, the whole world will be better off” Quote the politically correct economists never more… Words to remember when you get laid-off with no job in sight.

Not many complained when blue collar jobs went away, after all you go to college to avoids those jobs. I guess the apathetic middle/upper-middle class need to feel a lot of pain before they demand change.
245 posted on 08/21/2003 11:57:28 AM PDT by GoShow
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To: Texas_Dawg
Wait until you get pinched-neither the CHINESE nor INDIANS have any love for our country or its values
246 posted on 08/21/2003 11:57:33 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (i)
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To: Tokhtamish
Why have you never anything of value to add to this subject aside from Ayn Rand libertarian arrogance ? However clever you may think you are, if the GOP takes your position get ready for New Deal II.



Quote Of the Day! Excellent chew-out of a dog.

247 posted on 08/21/2003 12:03:46 PM PDT by Paul Ross (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!-A. Hamilton)
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To: Texas_Dawg
If this many conservatives are P.O.'ed about this ,how will BUSH carry the middle ground independents
248 posted on 08/21/2003 12:04:33 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (i)
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To: ARCADIA
This is going to be The issue in 2004.

I partially agree. It is going to THE issue but not in 2004. Things will be okay for Bush to be handed the crown again in 2004. But things will head downhill from there quickly and dramatically. Hitlery will waltz into the White House/UN Headquarters in Washington in 2008.

249 posted on 08/21/2003 12:05:29 PM PDT by Silas
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To: A. Pole
"You do not understand. A Walmart employee with PhD will not pay it anyway. But if prevented from using bankruptcy ( corporations and businessmen do all the time) he will never be able to improve his lot, instead he will be a burden to the society to the end of his life - another hidden cost of "free" trade."

Pan, you don't understand. I am not going to help subsidize millions of dollars in degrees for people who will have the benefit of those degrees for the rest of their lives just because they decide to reneg on their promise to the govt. Taxpayer money was already fronted to students with low interest and generous terms. Everyone would just blow the loan off.

That is a welfare program for advanced education.

I have had my own economic problems due to changing economic conditions (22% rev loss for 3 yrs) but I deal with it, don't complain, and i never have and never will ask for or accept a government handout.


250 posted on 08/21/2003 12:06:31 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: y2k_free_radical
Bush won't carry the center, if things get worse. I gag to think of it, but the ground is ripening for Hillary. THEN he'll carry the center!
251 posted on 08/21/2003 12:06:38 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: Texas_Dawg
I'm with you, Dawg. Think about it y'all... degrees & pedigrees aside, how many Indians have you known who can find their ass with both hands? They will cut their own throats. These little, brown, English wannabees will come and they will go. They will make us sharper.
252 posted on 08/21/2003 12:08:40 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalizm and homoizm are cults of death - no life can come from them.)
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To: Tokhtamish
"Obviously you did not grow up in a blue collar neighborhood in the industrial Northeast in the 60's..."

I did. In the 70's. I'm still there. And I have no idea what parallel universe you lived in.
253 posted on 08/21/2003 12:10:04 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: johnb838
True, Yankee ingenuity will see us through, and we don't need no gubmint handouts or big government taxes and tariffs. I still think that would make us a commie state with the Big Brother telling u what to do and how to live, ugh...
254 posted on 08/21/2003 12:10:48 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: theDentist
They aren't going to outsource dentistry.
255 posted on 08/21/2003 12:11:06 PM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalizm and homoizm are cults of death - no life can come from them.)
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To: johnb838
Let me guess. You're a DU-er patronizing Texas_Dawg.
256 posted on 08/21/2003 12:11:08 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: johnb838
how many Indians have you known who can find their ass with both hands?

Most people find it with one hand.

You need two?

257 posted on 08/21/2003 12:11:12 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
:-)
258 posted on 08/21/2003 12:12:56 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: y2k_free_radical
They have the love of money and the freemarket ability to offer a comparable product/service at a lower price.

Sound pretty much like capitalistic bastards to me.
259 posted on 08/21/2003 12:12:57 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: johnb838
Well, I'm willing to talk someone through a quick "drill and fill" procedure over the phone, so you may be wrong.:-)
260 posted on 08/21/2003 12:13:42 PM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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