United States v Roy Moore: The Most Important States' Rights Case in Decades

PatriotPetitions.US/Federalist.com ^ | 8-15-03

[cpforlife.org]

An Open Letter in Support of Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's Defense of the Most Important Religious Liberty and States' Rights Test Case in Decades

(Please forward this important message to friends, family members, and fellow American Patriots)

A monument of the Ten Commandments placed in the rotunda of Alabama's Supreme Court building by Chief Justice Roy Moore, is the front line of the war over the First, Ninth and Tenth Amendment restrictions on the central government by our Constitution's Bill of Rights. Ordered by a federal court to remove the monument by August 20, Justice Moore has been warned by U.S. District and Appellate Courts that his states' rights argument will not be tolerated.

Judge Moore, of course, is rightly defending the original intent of the Founders, who drafted and approved the Bill of Rights, against erroneous interpretation by an activist Leftjudiciary, even as he prepares his appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. This case is a major test case for states' rights and the so-called church-state "separation clause," and ultimately will determine the fundamental nature of government and the Constitution. To assess the importance of this case, consider this evaluation from 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Ed Carnes, who ruled against Chief Justice Moore: "If Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's Ten Commandments monument were allowed to stand, it would mean a massive revision of how the courts have interpreted the First Amendment for years." Indeed, it would.

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Founder's Quote:

"The States supposed that by their tenth amendment, they had secured themselves against constructive powers." --Thomas Jefferson

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Whats a "JCLU supporter"? Be specific, please.

[.30Carbine]

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."
Patrick Henry

[cake_crumb]

"Why argue with leftists?"

Because I find their hatred and divisiveness offensive. In fact, their intolorance of anyone who is different from them shocks, deeply saddens and disturbs me. ;- )

Seriously, because they've set themselves up as the American version of the hizbah, the Muslim morality police who are responsible for enforcing the rules laid down by the mullahs mandating how and what we are allowed to think, feel and do 24/7.

[.30Carbine]

"The only foundation for useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion."
Thomas Jefferson

[microgood]

Of course the next step is to remove all the crosses from Arlington National Cemetary and all other military cemetaries.

[Catspaw]

We all know what these cases are about, especially JCLU supporters.

What's the "JCLU?"

[goldstategop]

Bumped and Freeped! Liberal Federal Judges are the greatest threat to the rule of law in America today. It takes a rare man like Chief Justice Roy Moore to stand up to them.

[cake_crumb]

"Good - it makes my day when would be theocrats are forced to worship in their homes and churches on their own dime, as opposed to making noisome pharisaic displays that are meaningless in terms of personal devotion and sacrifice"

Yes, far better that we should be forced against our will to rub our noses in the alter of socialist totalitarianism. By stripping the right of Christians to practice the Christian religion, you step on their Constitutional right to freedom of religion. No one is forcing you to worship anything but the anarchy you appear to hold dear.

By taking away our right to honor our history and the founding principles of this country you take away our First Amendment right. As you know, you're using our Constitution to destroy our Consitutional rights. This, of course, is what you and your ilk want.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Actually, history records it was rebellion against high taxes and no representation against a non responsive Theocracy in England, that drove us to purchase this freedom with our own blood. England at the time was a Christian nation, so in that sense, Christianity in Government, WAS responsible for the rebellion of our founding fathers.

If Christianity were responsible for the world's liberties, and freedoms, you would expect to have an entirely different kind of Europe than we saw during the dark ages, pogroms and inquisitions of 1500 years duration.

Less than eight percent of Americans even attended Church during the revolution. As many as sixty percent of them sided with England.

They believed they were commanded in the epistle of peter to the Church: "obey the king and governors" (the apostle peter, told them to do this, despite the fact that the roman governors happened to be using Christians for lion food at the time).

ON the other hand, I have zero doubt that freedom for our nation was God's idea. Freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion, instituted by the state (the bloodbath of Europe).

I also have zero doubt that setting up statues will fail to maintain our freedom. But then again, I never believed in statues and monuments... some people do.

I think this judge is grandstanding for publicity sake. IT is working.

[cavtrooper21]

Hey, many of us here see your point, but could you be a tad bit less abrasive about making it.
The government wasted 40 million on the Starr investigation of Billy-boy. At least this fight is for (in my book) a better cause than trying to "incriminate" Billy-boy when we knew he was guilty anyway. Look what happened there... Nothing!
At least here the ACLU is facing a stiff fight by a group they would nomally shun. White Christian conservitave Americans.

[gdani]

"The only foundation for useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion."
Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson probably isn't the best person to quote.

He made a decision to keep the theology school separate from the rest of the state-funded University of Virginia because he felt it would be an establishment of religion.

[.30Carbine]

"To the kindly influence of Christianity, we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoy. In proportion, as the genuine effects of Christianity are diminished in any nation, either through unbelief, or the corruption of its doctrines, or the neglect of its institutions; in the same proportion will the people of the nation recede from the blessings of genuine freedom and approximate the miseries of complete despotism."
Dr. Jedidah Morse

[tet68]

Another little piece of what makes us Americans will be gone.

Well, it won't be gone, but it will have been driven underground. It's up to us to keep the continuity of America
going. As more and more of it is made illegal, as more little chips are hacked away, WE have to be the ones to pick up those pieces of our heritage and treasure them.
Hey, I remember America, before it was PC.

[.30Carbine]

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."
Thomas Jefferson

[AZLiberty]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF;

The Constitution needs a new amendment:

The Judiciary shall make no law. Period.

[.30Carbine]

"If thou wouldst rule well, thou must rule for God, and to do that, thou must be ruled by him....Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."
William Penn

[cake_crumb]

"Hey, I remember America, before it was PC."

Sigh...me too.

It's interesting that the PC crowd forces us to follow their own commandments. We're way into he hundreds now. Every day it seems that more and more edicts are issued, more of our history and more of our freedom is taken away in the name of protecting someone's freedom.

[fr_freak]

Jefferson probably isn't the best person to quote.

He made a decision to keep the theology school separate from the rest of the state-funded University of Virginia because he felt it would be an establishment of religion.

There is a big difference between having a theology school, which is an organization designed to teach and promote specific religious beliefs, in a state-run school and simply having Christian references incorporated into school teachings. While I can see Jefferson recognizing that a state-run theology school would be a de facto establishment of religion, I am certain he did not object, but in fact even encouraged, incorporations of Christianity in the school, little things such as starting the day with a prayer or having the Ten Commandments displayed on the wall.

[gdani]

Ya know, it doesn't take a whole lot of skill or reasoning to cut & paste quotes.

The reality is that, at that time -- just like now -- there were politicians on all sides:

1) who were either strict separationists, were lukewarm either way or who feared that religious liberty would not be adequately protected.

2) who delighted in saying what their constituents wanted to hear because their primary focus was on retaining power.

3) who said one thing but did quite another with respect to their public policies and/or their private lives.

Sorry -- but cutting & pasting quotes doesn't quite grasp any of those gray areas. But I'm sure someone will come along soon who's interested in getting into a cut & paste quote war.

[bereanway]

That exactly the point, this legislating by judicial fiat has to stop. At some point congress and the states are going to have to slap down this out of control federal judiciary. I don't know if Alabama has spent anything close to the $125 mil that's being quoted, but even if they have it would be the deal of the century if it resultd in these black robed tyrants being reeled in. Let it all begin now.