New Dinosaur Species Found in India

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.

the scientific method.

We need a cult watch - REALITY WAKE UP CALL - with the evo witness fanatics who won't discuss or explain their ideology at all --- just cram it down everyone's throat !

Stuffed goose science ... premature coronation (( glorification )) of liberal theology and gods of conservative science - thought ...

reminds me of napoleans -- emperors ---

in china THEY CALL THEM DIRT EMPERORS (( raving lunatics )) !

Spectator article by Peter Hitchens ...

"After the case of Dr David Kelly and all that has followed, this is not terribly reassuring. Others might suggest that democracy itself is the rock on which our society is built. But democracy, without the restraint of law and tradition, easily turns into a tyranny of the majority. It has no special virtue of its own, and with its intolerance of minorities and its tendency to elective dictatorship and crowd-pleasing it often threatens liberty, without which democracy is not all that much use. The Thatcherites seemed to think that the market could replace religion, a folly that hastened their downfall and left them morally and culturally empty. As for the left-wing virtues of the egalitarian social conscience, unlike individual conscience this tends to lead people to think that their acts of power and war are justified, not restrained, by the higher good they serve."

"In many ways they are ... more autocratic — if they get the chance — then any mediaeval Christian monarch would have dared to be. History, they proclaim, will forgive them."

Our choice is ...

# 1 - the invisible hand --- ' markets ' --- religious LIBERTY ...

or ...

# 2 - the sock puppets ... social engineers - freaks with the iron (( pink )) fist (( 3rdwayers - liberals )) !

In England - Australia ... classical conservatives are aptly call liberals which is accurate ---

the social engineers require activism - FORCE (( nazis )) and are called socialists - conservatives - ' reformers ' - CONTROLLERS - REPRESSION !

America is going to have to choose ... if we are going to be a # 2 soviet or --- a # 1 republican - free state !

no belief (or understanding) of the scientific method

Ask yourself if the following criteria apply to the group you are concerned about.

A ... * destructive cult * ... tends to be ... * totalitarian * ... in its ... * control * ... of its members' behavior.

Cults are likely to * dictate * in great detail not only what members believe, but also what members wear and eat, when and where members work, sleep, and bathe, and how members think, speak, and conduct familial, marital, or sexual relationships.

A destructive cult tends to have an * ethical double standard * .

Members are urged to be obedient to the cult, to carefully * follow cult rules * . They are also encouraged to be revealing and open in the group, confessing all to the leaders. On the other hand, outside the group they are encouraged to act unethically, manipulating outsiders or nonmembers, and either deceiving them or simply revealing very little about themselves or the group. In contrast to destructive cults, * honorable groups * teach members to abide by one set of ethics and act ethically and truthfully to all people in all situations.

A destructive cult has only two basic purposes: recruiting new members and fund- raising. Altruistic movements, established religions, and other * honorable groups * also recruit and raise funds. However, these actions are incidental to an honorable group's main purpose of improving the lives of its members and of humankind in general. Destructive cults may claim to make social contributions, but in actuality such claims are superficial and only serve as gestures or fronts for recruiting and fund-raising. A cult's real goal is to increase the prestige and often the wealth of the leader.

A destructive cult appears to be innovative and exclusive. The leader claims to be breaking with tradition, offering something novel, and * instituting the ONLY viable system * for change that will solve life's problems or the world's ills. But these * claims are empty * and only used to recruit members who are then surreptitiously subjected to * mind control * to inhibit their ability to examine the actual validity of the claims of the leader and the cult.

A destructive cult is * authoritarian * in its power structure. The leader is regarded as the supreme authority. He or she may delegate certain power to a few subordinates for the purpose of seeing that members adhere to the leader's wishes. There is no appeal outside his or her system to a greater system of justice. For example, if a schoolteacher feels unjustly treated by a principal, an appeal can be made to the superintendent. In a destructive cult, the leader claims to have the only and final ruling on all matters.

A destructive cult's leader is a self-appointed messianic person claiming to have a special mission in life. For example, leaders of flying saucer cults claim that beings from outer space have commissioned them to lead people away from Earth, so that only the leaders can save them (( republican party )) from impending doom (( fundies // TROLLS )).

* A destructive cult's leader centers the veneration of members upon himself or herself. *

Priests, rabbis, ministers, democratic leaders, and other leaders of genuinely altruistic movements focus the veneration of adherents on God or a set of ethical principles.

* Cult leaders, in contrast, keep the focus of love, devotion, and allegiance on themselves</>. *

* A destructive cult's leader tends to be determined, domineering, and charismatic. *

Such a leader effectively persuades followers to abandon or alter their families, friends, and careers to follow the cult.

The leader then * takes control * over followers' possessions, money, time, and lives.

Senator Goldwater

fC ...

This what happens when ideology obliterates reality ...

orc patrol - watch !

It' s a travesty --- a total fallacy to conform physical sciences to only a subjective * animal * - * material * frame of reference ... evolution has become a form of tribalism --- canibalism --- mindnaping --- slavery !

Troll overlords on the march alert !

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Now you MUST admit your error and apologize:
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As everyone can PLAINLY see, we are within the constraints of the agreement by pointing out obviously trollish behavior and namecalling from a consistently trolling, namecalling and flamewar inciting, NONcomplying poster.

Therefore, we are indeed in compliance by pointing out a certain posters CONSISTENT behavior.

His first post in this thread was a DIRECT attack, as usual, as soon as the consistency showed itself, we were within our rights to point out said poster as a Troller and disruptor. If on the other hand he had NOT attacked and instead actually added something to the discussion, we would have left said poster alone.

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