Note to Mohammad & Osama, don't try this. Just because kids can get away with it doesn't mean you can. /sarcasm.
1 posted on
08/12/2003 5:32:21 AM PDT by
csvset
To: csvset
Why is there no perimete surveillance?
Did we not just hear that there is concern about missile launchers from shoulder mounts.
Where are all that national security billions going? Payoffs payoffs payoffs and more political payoffs.
Not one more dime without accountability.
2 posted on
08/12/2003 5:37:10 AM PDT by
OldFriend
((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
To: csvset
Why is there no perimeter surveillance?
Did we not just hear that there is concern about missile launchers from shoulder mounts.
Where are all that national security billions going? Payoffs payoffs payoffs and more political payoffs.
Not one more dime without accountability.
3 posted on
08/12/2003 5:37:22 AM PDT by
OldFriend
((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
To: csvset
I'm a little slow this morning. All the references to "PA" in the article had me thinking that the Palestinian Authority was in charge of security at JFK. Turns out it's the Port Authority. Whew!
4 posted on
08/12/2003 5:38:41 AM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
(France delenda est)
To: csvset
"If these were three kids with SAM [Surface to Air] missiles, we'd all be saying something different."
Come on, everyone knows that you have to be at least 18 to buy a SAM.
7 posted on
08/12/2003 5:49:25 AM PDT by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: csvset
Unreal.
10 posted on
08/12/2003 5:54:33 AM PDT by
SerpentDove
(Each post focus-group tested for maximum wallop.)
To: All
Get to the Airport 3 hours early, be searched and looked at like your carrying 20 pounds of TNT, trip and fall over hundreds of misplaced "bomb barriers"...and then a couple of kids take a hike on a runway and no one's noticing. Who's protecting who (whom) and what against? No wonder the Airline industry is broke.
If I don't have to fly, I won't, Airports and travel by air isn't fun anymore. It's down right dreadful.
16 posted on
08/12/2003 6:02:10 AM PDT by
Dallas59
To: csvset
If you stand in the park across Jamaica bay from Kennedy, you can watch Sengalese immigrants(when there not selling watches) fishing from the rocks below the east bound runway! They actually walk along the shoreline from Howard Beach. Forget a rocket launcher, all you need is a handgun!
To: csvset
PA police union President Gus Danese blasted the agency.
"If these were three kids with SAM [Surface to Air] missiles, we'd all be saying something different. The bottom line is money," Danese said. Uh, NO! The bottom line is that your boys were not doing their jobs.
22 posted on
08/12/2003 6:09:33 AM PDT by
kaboom
To: csvset
I saw the tail end of this report on WABC-TV last night (Damn, I love my satellite dish!), and couldn't get over the lack of security - mind you, everyone keeps taking this for granted.
I'm convinced the bad guys have already scoped this out at the airports that border major waterways (JFK, LaGuardia, Boston-Logan, Reagan National, LAX, SFO, SeaTac, New Orleans and others).
25 posted on
08/12/2003 6:13:19 AM PDT by
mhking
To: Nightshift
bttt
33 posted on
08/12/2003 6:26:32 AM PDT by
tutstar
To: csvset
The thing is- there's always going to be a hole in security somewhere. The US is simply too vast and there are too many things to guard. Clamping down on security in a big public way was never about actually accomplishing something, it was only about making people feel safe. America has always been vulnerable, always will be so long as we're a free nation. There is practically nothing that can be done about that.
To: csvset
I was working construction at DFW airport in the '80's just after all airports went to unprecedented security levels after Pres. Reagan bombed KaDaffy. No one allowed inside the airport without a ticket, no parking within 200 yards of the terminal, etc.
I and two others, were working on a dock at the UPS warehouse which was connected to the main runways just a few hundred feet away. We were told to cease work and apply for security clearance which could take 4-6 weeks. We had to work, so we turned up for work the next day as though nothing had changed.
The UPS planes would taxi and park so close we could literally touch them. The pilots would get out and do whatever inside while waiting to be loaded and we would be left alone with with an idling 727. No one else in sight, no security cameras, nuthin' for as much as half an hour at a time.
How did we get through security to get back there? opened a gate held shut with a length of twisted wire. We did that for 3 weeks without ever being questioned or even seeing any security people. My coworkers and I were amazed and several times commented that we could fly one of those planes into downtown Dallas which was within site of were we sat. Two weeks after we finished the job we got notice that our background checks had been completed and received our security badges which we were required to have to be within the secured areas of the airport.
I noticed a couple of months ago that the gate we used to go through now has a lock which would require that one would have to jump the 6 ft fence instead. Or walk through the open dock doors on the outside to the open dock doors on the back side 100 ft away. Security really is a joke.
40 posted on
08/12/2003 6:44:36 AM PDT by
metalcor
To: csvset
"If these were three kids with SAM [Surface to Air] missiles, we'd all be saying something different. The bottom line is money," Danese said. Thank God they weren't lugging around the popular .50 BMG rifle, the preferred anti-aircraft weapon of terrorists, domestic and imported.
54 posted on
08/12/2003 7:22:44 AM PDT by
TC Rider
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To: csvset
"If these were three kids with SAM [Surface to Air] missiles, we'd all be saying something different. The bottom line is money," Danese said. Non-story. Most airports in the US have public access just yards beyond the end of the runways. Many of them have freeways or other public roadways just beyond the runway from which any SAM equipped terrorist could launch.
You don't want kids or wild animals on the runway for obvious reasons, but to think somehow US planes will be safe from SAM missiles if more money was spent to secure that particular airport grounds -- I don't think so.
60 posted on
08/12/2003 8:07:34 AM PDT by
jlogajan
To: csvset
SAM's? That's all a bunch of b/s. No one is going to get SAM's into this country and take down an aircraft. For crying out loud, the 9/11 highjackers used the cheapest weapon available, a box cutter to accomplish their goals. If these kids got on the tarmac, all they needed was a roll of quarters and they could have taken down half the planes on the runway. No I won't explain.
Sorry, I for one refuse to believe that terrorists are going to have the sophisticated weapons that all the "chicken littles" keep crying about, not even firearms. They will accomplish their goals with the simpliest of tools & the simplest of means. They will take their time, they will infiltrate & gain the trust of their friends & neighbors. They have no deadlines.
If you want to be afraid of something, be afraid of this internet mobbing craze thing. Imagine 300+ people converging on a location, like an airport or shopping mall, with intent to do harm.........
To: csvset
Come on now.....with the TSA rent'a cops being unionized and getting kewl federal badges comes mandatory breaks and 1 hour lunches per 8 hour shift. These terrorist tots evidently weren't provided a copy of the union rules and thus a grievance will be filed and their raft deflated.
Stay Safe !
64 posted on
08/12/2003 8:29:18 AM PDT by
Squantos
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74 posted on
08/12/2003 9:44:11 PM PDT by
nutmeg
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