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Film about Christ raises concerns of anti-Semitism
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, WI ^ | 8/11/03 | AMY WESTFELDT

Posted on 08/11/2003 12:23:58 AM PDT by DPB101

Film about Christ raises concerns of anti-Semitism

But Gibson defends 'Passion' as an
authentic crucifixion account

By AMY WESTFELDT
Associated Press

New York - Those who have seen Mel Gibson's film about the final hours of Jesus Christ have called it beautiful, magical, and a great and important work.

Those who fear "The Passion" could fuel anti-Semitism, however, until this weekend hadn't been allowed to see the film. Seven months before its release, this extraordinary vanity project is stirring passions over Gibson's exclusionary screenings and the potential for a negative depiction of Jews.

On Friday, it was shown in Houston to an audience that included for the first time an official from the Anti-Defamation League, which fights anti-Semitism. Audience members signed confidentiality agreements before attending the screening.

"We still have grave concerns," Rabbi Eugene Korn, director of the ADL's Office of Interfaith Affairs in New York, told the Houston Chronicle in Saturday's editions.

Not just Jews are concerned. The film was first questioned by a nine-member panel that included Christians. Gibson is a member of a Catholic movement that rejects the Vatican's authority over the Catholic church.

The action-movie star and Oscar-winning director of "Braveheart" has spent nearly $30 million of his own money to produce, co-write and direct "The Passion," starring Jim Caviezel as Jesus and Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene. Filmed entirely in Aramaic and Latin, it has yet to secure a distributor.

According to the official Web site for the film, "The Passion" may not reach theaters until June.

In recent weeks, the actor-director had been building support with invitation-only screenings for film industry insiders, conservative commentators, evangelical Christians and sympathetic Jews.

Ted Haggard, president of the National Evangelical Association, saw a screening in June with about 30 evangelical scholars. The scholars are very strict about adherence to scripture, so Gibson "had no assurances that we would be friendly toward that movie."

But Haggard loved it. "I thought it was the most authentic portrayal I've ever seen."

However, critics of "The Passion" - who have not seen the film - worry that it will attract millions to see a violent, bloody recounting of the crucifixion that portrays Jews as a frenzied mob eager to watch Jesus die.

"For too many years, Christians have accused Jews of being Christ-killers and used that charge to rationalize violence," said Sister Mary C. Boys, a seminary professor on a committee that read an early draft of the script. "This is our fear."

While Gibson said "The Passion" will be the most authentic account ever of the crucifixion, Boys said the script presented the Jews as more culpable than the Romans who executed Christ.

It only recounts the last 12 hours of Christ's life, she said, and therefore lacks the context to explain the Jews' portrayal.

In a June statement, Gibson denied that he or the film were anti-Semitic: "My intention in bringing it to the screen is to create a lasting work of art and engender serious thought among audiences of diverse faith backgrounds (or none) who have varying familiarity with this story."


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Oh, goodness people. The Jewish people are more than rugged enough to accept the presentation of the Gospel depiction of the crucifixion. Christ was a Jew and so were the Apostles. The Scripture says that Judaism is the tree and we Christians are the branches.

No group of people loves the House of David and the Nation of Israel more than evangelical Christians. Anyone who raises the ghost of Hitler, etc..neither understands us or has the interest of Christians or Jews at heart. I also question if they would know real anti-semitism if it bit them.
61 posted on 08/11/2003 9:30:38 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21
There seems to be no shortage of fruitcakes that want to equate Hitler with Christianity. The other side of the Skinhead coin.
62 posted on 08/11/2003 9:36:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (If you haven't read Coulter you don't know Joe!)
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To: Cachelot
All right--even conceding anti-Semitism involves hatred of some sort--much as many liberals right now hate the Catholic Church--it is hatred of a different order of magnitude to think that therefore all Catholics should be rounded up and killed. That is what I was getting at. What Hitler did was psychopathic. It's a huge leap from one phenomenon to the other. I don't see the logical connection at all.
63 posted on 08/11/2003 9:45:30 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
It's a huge leap from one phenomenon to the other.

Actually it's not a huge leap. All it takes is one lunatic to get into power, and he can then use the hatreds of the masses to whip up a frenzy. The Holocaust did not happen overnight, nor was it possible due to only one man.

64 posted on 08/11/2003 10:15:09 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIPF ......sign this!)
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To: Luke21; ultima ratio; veronica
Oh, goodness people....

All right--even conceding anti-Semitism involves hatred of some sort--much as many liberals right now hate the Catholic Church--it is hatred of a different order of magnitude to think that therefore all Catholics should be rounded up and killed. Sometimes people fail to recognize the common enemy. Perhaps a relevant article, not that far off topic.

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The Socialist Roots of Modern Anti-Semitism

Tyler Cowen

Auschwitz meant that six million Jews were killed, and thrown on the waste--heap of Europe, for what they were considere: money-Jews. Finance capital and the banks, the hard core of the system of imperialism and capitalism, had turned the hatred of men against money and exploitation, and against the Jews.... Antisemitism is really a hatred of capitalism.

-Ulrike Meinhof, left-wing German terrorist of the 1970s1

Capitalism and the market economy encourage racial, ethnic, and religious tolerance, while supporting a plurality of diverse lifestyles and customs. Heavily regulated or socialist economies, in contrast, tend to breed intolerance and ethnic persecution. Socialism leads to low rates of economic growth, disputes over resource use, and concentrated political power-all conditions which encourage conflict rather than cooperation. Ethnic and religious minorities usually do poorly when political coercion is prevalent. Economic collapses - usually associated with interventionism-worsen the problem by unleashing the destructive psychological forces of envy and resentment, which feed prejudice and persecution.

While discrimination is present in societies of all kinds, discriminators must pay pecuniary costs for indulging their prejudices in a market setting. Even the prejudiced usually will trade with minorities; bigots attempt to oppress minorities by socializing the costs through government action, but bigots usually are less willing to bear these costs themselves. Repeated commercial interactions also increase the social familiarity of customs or lifestyles that otherwise might be found unusual or alien. Sustained economic growth alleviates political and social tensions by creating more for everybody.

The history of the Jewish people illustrates the relatively favorable position of minorities in a market setting. Hostility toward trade and commerce has often fueled hostility toward Jews, and vice versa. The societies most congenial to commercial life for their time - Renaissance Italy, the growing capitalist economies of England and the Netherlands in the seventeenth century, and the United States - typically have shown the most toleration for Jews. Ellis Rivkin, in his neglected masterpiece, The Shaping of Jewish History.- A Radical New Interpretation, wrote:

Since World War II Jews and Judaism have been liberated in every country and territory where capitalism has been restored to vigorous growth-and this includes Germany. By contrast, wherever anti-capitalism or pre-capitalism has prevailed the status of Jews and Judaism has either undergone deterioration or is highly precarious. Thus at this very moment the country where developing global capitalism is most advanced, the United States, accords Jews and Judaism a freedom that is known nowhere else in the world and that was never known in the past. It is a freedom that is not matched even in Israel... By contrast, in the Soviet Union, the citadel of anti-capitalism, the Jews are cowed by anti-Semitism, threatened by extinction, and barred from access to their God 2.

The socialist origins of modern anti-Semitism illustrate the link between statism and the persecution of minorities. Anti-Semitism as a formal, intellectual movement arose in the middle of the nineteenth century, when Jewish conspiracy theories grew in popularity. German writers picked up on earlier anti-Enlightenment theories of a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy to rule the world. During the French Revolution, the Jews, along with the Masons, were identified as forces for liberalism, secularism, and capitalism. German writers quickly found the Jews to be a more popular target than the Masons, perhaps because they were more visible or more different. The originally Judeo-Masonic theories eventually discarded the other conspirators, such as the Templars and the Illuminati, and focused on the Jews.

Anti-Semitism in Nineteenth- Century Germany and Austria

The anti-Jewish creed was formalized by Wilhelm Marr, the German writer who coined the term "anti-Semitic." In 1879 Marr published his book The Victory of Judaism over Germandom, which went through twelve editions in six years. He also founded the "Anti-semitic Journal," and started an "Anti-semitic League." Marr idolized Tsarist Russia, and earlier in his career he had been a radical socialist. The new anti-Semites who followed Marr expanded the medieval attacks on Jewish traders and usurers and developed them into a full-scale economic critique. The Jews who provoked the most anger were those who embraced cosmopolitan, Enlightenment values, and who achieved economic success.

In the second half of the nineteenth century, Germany became the first country to develop systematic anti-Semitic political and intellectual movements. In Germany, Adolf Stöcker's Christian Social Party (1878-1885) combined anti-Semitism with left-wing, reformist legislation. The party attacked laissez-faire economics and the Jews as part of the same liberal plague. Stöcker's movement synthesized medieval anti-Semitism, based in religion, and modern anti-Semitism, based in racism and socialist economics. He once wrote: "I see in unrestrained capitalism the evil of our epoch and am naturally also an opponent of modern Judaism on account of my socio-political views." Stöcker had revered the Prussian aristocracy since his youth.

Georg Ritter von Schönerer led the leftwing' anti--Semitic movement in Austria. Schönerer's German Liberal Party, developed a lower-middle-class, anti-Semitic, anti-capitalistic platform in the 1880s. Schönerer directed his anti-Semitism at the economic activity of the Rothschilds; he advocated nationalization of their railroad assets. Later, he broadened his charges to attack Jewish merchants more generally. Hitler was an avid admirer of Schönerer, and as a young man even hung Schönerer's slogans over his bed.

The growing nineteenth-century socialist movements did little to stem the anti-Semitic tide and often explicitly promoted anti-Semitism. The initial link between socialism and anti-Semitism arose through intellectual affinity. Throughout the nineteenth century, the socialist critique of capitalism and the anti-Semitic critique used the same arguments. Many socialists considered anti-Semitism to be a way station on the path toward a more consistent socialist viewpoint. The very first systematic socialist philosophers, the French Utopians of the early nineteenth century, had implicated the Jews in their critique of capitalism. French Jewry was highly commercial, financial, and capitalistic. Proudhon and Fourier, who stressed the abolition of usury, saved their most vitriolic anti-Semitic tirades for Jewish moneylenders.

Karl Marx continued the anti-Jewish polemics of the socialists. The historical association between Jews, private property, and commerce led to his well-known anti-Semitic diatribes. Marx, who sought to reconstruct society according to his master plan, detested the particularistic nature of Jewish religion and custom. Some of Marx's followers, such as Dühring and Lassalle, used anti-Semitism as a means of introducing anti-capitalist doctrine. They believed that if the public could be convinced to hate Jewish capitalists, the public would eventually come to hate non-Jewish capitalists as well.

A widely circulated nineteenth-century witticism described anti-Semitism as "the socialism of fools" [der Sozialismus des blöden Mannes]. It was widely recognized that the anti-Semites shared the same gripes as the socialists; the anti-Semites simply chose too narrow a target. The socialists happily accepted the spirit of anti-Semitism, provided the target was widened to the entire capitalist class. More recently, the historian Paul Johnson has noted with irony that socialism has served as the "anti-Semitism of the intellectuals."3

Even when socialists opposed anti-Semitism, as later came to pass for tactical reasons, European socialist parties failed to provide effective opposition to anti-Semitic trends. Most socialists, with their dislike of capitalism, were unwilling to defend the economic activities of Jews. Socialism pretended to be a revolutionary, liberal movement but in fact embraced the conservative doctrine of concentrated state power. Most socialists supported World War I, which provided a tremendous boost to anti-Semitism, without hesitation. Later, the Nazi party, the most dedicated enemy of the Jews, was a national socialist party from the beginning.4

Soviet Anti-Semitism

The actual practice of socialism has not been kind to its religious and ethnic minorities, including Jews. The Soviet government adopted consistently anti-Semitic policies. Lenin was strongly opposed to anti-Semitism, but Soviet policy reversed shortly after his death. Totalitarian states, with their inevitable economic failures, eventually need scapegoats. Economic performance rarely matches the official promises, and the subsequent privations feed social resentment; one person gains only at the expense of another. The necessities of totalitarian government, in time, override whatever non-racist feelings might be held by the leaders, and create strong pressures for political support of racism. Control over the press and rights of speech makes racist feeling relatively easy to whip up.

Soviet anti-Semitism flourished after the Second World War, as the Communist leaders were unable to resist the target that had proven so successful for Hitler. In 1953 Stalin alleged the existence of a "Doctors' Plot," masterminded by Jews, to poison the top Soviet leadership. Stalin died before a trial was called, but he had been planning to forcibly deport two million Jews to Siberia. The "economic crimes" executions of the early 1960s were directed largely against Jews.

Textbooks were rewritten either to remove the Jewish role in history, or to provide negative stereotypes of Jews. Government texts dealing with Germany and World War II mentioned neither the Jews nor the Holocaust. The Russian pogroms were reinterpreted as justified retribution for the capitalistic excesses of the Jews. The Soviet government attacked all forms of religion, but Judaism most of all.

Eastern Germany continued the earlier Nazi polemics against Jews, substituting the words "Zionist" or "Israel" for Jew, and referring to the salutary effects of "progressive socialist forces," a scant difference from the earlier Nazi terminology of "national socialism." Many former Nazi journalists were hired to write these "anti-Zionist" polemics. Similar trends came to pass throughout eastern Europe. In the early 1950s, thirteen leaders in the Czech Communist party (ten were Jewish), were accused of being "Zionists," and were hanged. In 1968 the Polish media spent months debating the "unmasking of Zionists in Poland," although Jews comprised less than one-fifteenth of one percent of the population. The anti-Zionist campaign was accompanied by demonstrations, arrests, surveillance, police persecution, and other typical methods of totalitarian oppression.

The contrast with the more capitalistic United States is striking. The United States started off with few Jews but attracted many Jewish immigrants with its relatively free economy and atmosphere of relative tolerance. By the 1920s, three of the four cities with the most Jews were located in the United States. New York had the largest number of Jews, and Chicago and Philadelphia were third and fourth (Budapest was second). Today Jews account for only two percent of the American population, but they account for half of the billionaires. The history of the Jews provides a stark illustration of the differences between capitalism and socialism.

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At the time of the original publication, Dr. Cowen taught economics at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia.
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1. My translation draws upon that of Paul Lawrence Rose, Revolutionary Antisemitism in Germany: From Kant to Wagner (Princeton, N.J.: Princeton University Press, 1990), p. 304.

2. Ellis Rivkin, The Shaping of Jewish History: A Radical New Interpretation (New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1971), pp. 239-240.

3. Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (New York: Harper-Collins, 1987), p. 353.

4. European socialist attitudes toward anti-Semitism shifted in the last decade of the nineteenth century. At this time the socialists realized several truths. First, anti-Semitism was a way station to state control, but the right-wing and fascist parties were likely to capture the benefits. Second, the socialists realized that the anti-Semites (like Judaism itself, in socialist eyes) had become precisely the kind of particularist sympathy that held back the more universalist socialist ideal. These points became clearest in Germany, where most leftists had abandoned anti-Semitism by the early twentieth century. The French left, in contrast, was much slower to repudiate the ideology of racism, perhaps because French politics never polarized the way German politics did.

Reprinted with permission from The Freeman, a publication of the Foundation for Economic Education, Inc., January 1997, Vol. 47, No. 1.

65 posted on 08/11/2003 10:48:33 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Interesting, but unconvincing. Why, then, are most Jews liberals, supporters of the socialist agenda? Something's missing in this argument.
66 posted on 08/11/2003 11:20:01 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
Why, then, are most Jews liberals, supporters of the socialist agenda?

I don't know many Jews who are supporters of a "socialist agenda." I know some liberal Jews, and some liberal Christians too.

67 posted on 08/11/2003 11:24:46 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIPF ......sign this!)
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To: veronica
Liberalism is socialism.
68 posted on 08/11/2003 11:46:04 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
It's a huge leap from one phenomenon to the other. I don't see the logical connection at all.

You don't think Jews were rounded up and killed before Hitler? You show a breathtaking ignorance of history.

Hitler was just the culmination of something that might somewhat uncharitably be called an ingrained European behaviour pattern (or psychosis). Today's American Nazis mouth slogans such as "Next Time, Bigger Ovens".

And you personally run around claiming that Jews are somehow "different" - they're liberals, supporters of a socialist agenda. Hmmm... did you mean to say "not quite American"? "Disloyal"? "Christkillers"?

Or did you just think: oven fuel?

69 posted on 08/11/2003 11:46:54 AM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: dennisw
I was taught, like almost every Christian who is living, that Jesus died at the hands of the Roman and Jewish leadership of the day. And yet Jews keep telling me that I was taught that "the Jews" killed Jesus and that I should hate them for it.

I have no problem with Jews voicing their concerns.

What I have a problem with is Jews telling me what I was taught.

What I have a problem with is Jews telling me what I believe.

It is a lie that I was taught that "the Jews" killed Jesus, and it is a lie that I believe that the entirety of the Jewish people are guilty of his death.

Why is it ok for Jews to express concern over a movie, but it isn't ok for Christians to point out the lies being told about our faith?

70 posted on 08/11/2003 11:59:05 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: veronica
Mel Gibson's deliberate slow "rollout" of his film is having the unintended (I hope) consequence of fomenting animus against Jews, mostly among those so inclined already.

So you seriously contend it is possible Gibson intends to foment animus against Jews?

Based on what?

71 posted on 08/11/2003 12:02:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Cachelot
OF COURSE most Jews in America vote Democrat and are liberal. That is not even debatable, any demographic study of the voting habits of Americans would prove this. If you don't know this basic political fact, you don't know much about anything. To equate my statement of fact with the term "Christ-killer" is nothing less than obscene.
72 posted on 08/11/2003 12:45:15 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I was taught, like almost every Christian who is living, that Jesus died at the hands of the Roman and Jewish leadership of the day. And yet Jews keep telling me that I was taught that "the Jews" killed Jesus and that I should hate them for it….It is a lie that I was taught that "the Jews" killed Jesus, and it is a lie that I believe that the entirety of the Jewish people are guilty of his death.

It’s hard to believe Jews come up to you and accuse you of that. That’s a credit to America of the last few generations, but historically, it’s a factual charge, which is frequently still used against Jews (by Muslims).

73 posted on 08/11/2003 12:55:44 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ultima ratio
OF COURSE most Jews in America vote Democrat and are liberal.

Liberal is not socialist. You keep making statements and then backing away from them, etc. And many Christians vote liberal too. Al Gore got more votes than GWB, and since Jews are a small group in the US, you can't lay that at the feet of Jews.

74 posted on 08/11/2003 12:56:13 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIPF ......sign this!)
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To: ultima ratio
Interesting, but unconvincing. Why, then, are most Jews liberals, supporters of the socialist agenda? Something's missing in this argument.

No arguement at all, just the authors position. Most of them vote for democrats, probably based largely on historical pattern in older voters, their largely urban demographic, and the success of the left in portraying the right as a refuge of bigots. Personally, I don't equivocate "democrat" with "socialist".

75 posted on 08/11/2003 1:02:10 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw
Step off Dennis. You are way too obsessed with defending the faith. It is a legitimate arguement to question the historical accuracy, but off base to challenge the film because of the potential reactions to the truth.
76 posted on 08/11/2003 1:07:30 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: ultima ratio
OF COURSE most Jews in America vote Democrat and are liberal

Oh, but you didn't limit your argument to "Jews in America", did you? I think you were burbling something about how antisemitism was a natural concequence of Jews being "Bolseviks and Freemasons". In fact, I could swear you're on this thread saying that there were "sound reason" for "resentment against the Jews". Memory not even good for one thread, eh?

However. Jews have been moving to the right in America over the last couple of years. It will be interesting to see if they'll appreciate Mr. Bush's backstabbing ways vis a vis Israel enough to continue moving rightwards. I kinda doubt it, of course: no one in their right mind would vote for the Islamics. Except, perhaps, the klanners and the Nazis.

77 posted on 08/11/2003 1:07:46 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Natural Law
Step off Dennis. You are way too obsessed with defending the faith......

Your crowd (DBP101 etc.) is the one that's unnaturally obsessed with the opinion of ADL and some other Jews about the upcoming film. It's like an elephant going berserk over a mouse. I just respond to your obsession.

 

78 posted on 08/11/2003 1:12:23 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Cachelot
You say this: "And you personally run around claiming that Jews are somehow 'different' - they're liberals, supporters of a socialist agenda. Hmmm... did you mean to say 'not quite American'? 'Disloyal'? 'Christkillers'? Or did you just think: oven fuel?"

This disgusting piece of calculated malice was in response to my perfectly legitimate query about the piece previously posted by SJackson which argued that Jews have prospered in capitalist societies and were persecuted in socialist states. I questioned why, then, are so many Jews liberals? This is not anti-Semitism on my part. It is not saying that Jews are "different" or are "traitors" or are "Christ-killers." It is simply stating a demographic fact, provable by voting patterns in NY and CA and in many other states with heavy Jewish populations, and something of a truism in political circles.

Why then the "oven-fuel" wisecrack? Is it possible to discuss this subject rationally without this sort of vitriol? If not, I suggest everybody just go home and not even try to dialogue. If you people want to believe Mel Gibson's film is anti-Semitic, and that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic, and that anything anybody says to the contrary is anti-Semitic, then to hell with it. There's no reasoning this out and we might as well all just forget about it.
79 posted on 08/11/2003 1:17:55 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Cachelot
Reread my posts. I did indeed cite Bolshevism and Freemasonry as an example of historical movements with heavy Jewish participation which were targeted against the Catholic Church. I did say every action had a reaction, that it was understandable if some Catholics became anti-Semitic as a result. I didn't say it was ever justified. I said it was understandable. But I also said this was a different kind of hostility from the psychopathic behavior of Hitler. That was my argument. You may consider it wrong, you may consider it ill-informed, you may consider it weak--but you may not consider it anti-Semitic, lumping me together with Nazis and using terms like "oven-fuel" and "Christkiller" to drive home your point. I resent being defamed in this way simply because you don't like where I'm coming from intellectually and lack the ability to make logical distinctions. Such groin-kicking is beneath contempt.
80 posted on 08/11/2003 1:27:17 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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