You say this: "And you personally run around claiming that Jews are somehow 'different' - they're liberals, supporters of a socialist agenda. Hmmm... did you mean to say 'not quite American'? 'Disloyal'? 'Christkillers'? Or did you just think: oven fuel?"
This disgusting piece of calculated malice was in response to my perfectly legitimate query about the piece previously posted by SJackson which argued that Jews have prospered in capitalist societies and were persecuted in socialist states. I questioned why, then, are so many Jews liberals? This is not anti-Semitism on my part. It is not saying that Jews are "different" or are "traitors" or are "Christ-killers." It is simply stating a demographic fact, provable by voting patterns in NY and CA and in many other states with heavy Jewish populations, and something of a truism in political circles.
Why then the "oven-fuel" wisecrack? Is it possible to discuss this subject rationally without this sort of vitriol? If not, I suggest everybody just go home and not even try to dialogue. If you people want to believe Mel Gibson's film is anti-Semitic, and that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic, and that anything anybody says to the contrary is anti-Semitic, then to hell with it. There's no reasoning this out and we might as well all just forget about it.
It is simply stating a demographic fact, provable by voting patterns in NY and CA and in many other states with heavy Jewish populations, and something of a truism in political circles. As I said, you haven't limited your argument to American demographics, but have engaged in the rather well-worn tactics of screaming about Jewish bolsheviks and Freemasons, and how natural it is that Jews should be "resented". Stop trying to convince yourself you're using invisible ink ;).
If you people want to believe Mel Gibson's film is anti-Semitic, and that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic, and that anything anybody says to the contrary is anti-Semitic, then to hell with it
Need to be spoonfed, do you?
The film isn't antisemitic. And contrary to what our little brown-uniformed friends would have us believe, the expressions of worry didn't originate with the Jews, or the ADL. According to Gibson, the first ones to protest the movie (and actually follow up by setting malicious reporters on his family) was the Catholic church, whom he consulted first. However, all the heat generated by one article being posted over and over again by people with an agenda may be a Nazi's wet dream.
The Catholic church was antisemitic (and rabidly so) for quite a few centuries. CWI, an English Christian organization has this short take on the Vatican and antisemitism:
VATICAN. Most "Christian" anti-Semitism has been of the Catholic variety. Relations between the Vatican and Hitler were cordial and until the papacy of John XXIII the Good Friday liturgy contained anti-Jewish references. Since the second Vatican Council, however, there have been significant changes in Catholic-Jewish relations.