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It's a huge leap from one phenomenon to the other. I don't see the logical connection at all.

You don't think Jews were rounded up and killed before Hitler? You show a breathtaking ignorance of history.

Hitler was just the culmination of something that might somewhat uncharitably be called an ingrained European behaviour pattern (or psychosis). Today's American Nazis mouth slogans such as "Next Time, Bigger Ovens".

And you personally run around claiming that Jews are somehow "different" - they're liberals, supporters of a socialist agenda. Hmmm... did you mean to say "not quite American"? "Disloyal"? "Christkillers"?

Or did you just think: oven fuel?

OF COURSE most Jews in America vote Democrat and are liberal. That is not even debatable, any demographic study of the voting habits of Americans would prove this. If you don't know this basic political fact, you don't know much about anything. To equate my statement of fact with the term "Christ-killer" is nothing less than obscene.

You say this: "And you personally run around claiming that Jews are somehow 'different' - they're liberals, supporters of a socialist agenda. Hmmm... did you mean to say 'not quite American'? 'Disloyal'? 'Christkillers'? Or did you just think: oven fuel?"

This disgusting piece of calculated malice was in response to my perfectly legitimate query about the piece previously posted by SJackson which argued that Jews have prospered in capitalist societies and were persecuted in socialist states. I questioned why, then, are so many Jews liberals? This is not anti-Semitism on my part. It is not saying that Jews are "different" or are "traitors" or are "Christ-killers." It is simply stating a demographic fact, provable by voting patterns in NY and CA and in many other states with heavy Jewish populations, and something of a truism in political circles.

Why then the "oven-fuel" wisecrack? Is it possible to discuss this subject rationally without this sort of vitriol? If not, I suggest everybody just go home and not even try to dialogue. If you people want to believe Mel Gibson's film is anti-Semitic, and that the Catholic Church was anti-Semitic, and that anything anybody says to the contrary is anti-Semitic, then to hell with it. There's no reasoning this out and we might as well all just forget about it.