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Hear Me Now and Believe Me Later (Limbaugh on Schwarzenneger)
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | August 7, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/08/2003 8:36:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are - like the "Gorbasms" liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev - fake. I know that (R) next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this "The Hollywood Syndrome," and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas.

The American Prowler's George Neumayr detailed Arnold's politics in his article "Here's Arnold!" Quote: "[H]e spoke in generalities and banalities about his plans for the state. To the extent that he said anything, he sounded not like a fiscal conservative but a moderate Democrat. He said that he wanted businesses to come back to California so that the state government could collect enough tax revenues to provide social programs. This is the sort of obtuse comment middle-of-the-road Democrats always make, forgetting that businesses are leaving the state because they are tired of paying high taxes for those big government social programs."

More: "He has told the press he is 'very liberal' about social programs, supports abortion and homosexual adoption, and advocates 'sensible gun controls.' His entree into politics last year was a proposition Democrats endorsed because it raised state spending for what amounted to state babysitting - before-school and after-school programs that cost the state up to $455 million a year. He has complained openly about the party's conservatism.... Talk magazine described him as 'impatient' with the religious right.... [H]e expressed disgust with the Republicans who impeached Clinton. 'That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for,' he said. 'We spent one year wasting time because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.'"

Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.


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To: Poohbah
He wants to continue the outrageous social spending we have in this State. How does that make him an "economic and fiscal conservative"? Yeah... I know... He's read Friedman; but, it doesn't seem to have rubbed off on him by much.
21 posted on 08/08/2003 8:53:06 AM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: ElkGroveDan
. CHECK out ARNIE" PIC ON DRUDGE>>>>LOL
22 posted on 08/08/2003 8:54:18 AM PDT by KQQL (^@__*^)
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To: ElkGroveDan
The way some people believe everything Limbaugh has to say just amazes me. He is just an entertainer who trys to attract the largest possible audience by making the most contreversial statements. That is his way of making money.

I applaud his ability to make money but I give his statements the same credibilty that I give to any other entertainer, absolutely none. If he weren't on the radio he would probably be selling used cars.
23 posted on 08/08/2003 8:54:35 AM PDT by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Poohbah
Ya know, serial carpetbaggers like Rush should STFU about California's politics.

Actually Limbaugh is right and coments like like have nothing to do with carpet bagging.

I think you should shut your mouth about this.

Having said this, he is still better than any democrat.

24 posted on 08/08/2003 8:55:52 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Redcloak
He wants to continue the outrageous social spending we have in this State.

Define "continue the outrageous social spending we have in this State."

What I've seen is that he wants to quit wasting the monies we spend on stupid stuff and focus instead on things like up-to-date textbooks in the schools. Of course, teaching our children that the USSR went out of business in 1991 (four years after their texbooks were published) is probably outrageous for some folks.

25 posted on 08/08/2003 8:56:13 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah; All
Conservatives pure enough for that loudmouth blowhard don't do well in California.

All right smartie pants, which republican faction DOES do well in in California?

Call Senator Campbell and ask him (34%, got fewer % of women vote than prolife Lungren did in 98) Call Senator Fong, call Senator Seymour, call Senator Huffington, how about Insurance Commissioner Mendoza, or Controller Barrales.

They are all very moderate "fiscal conservatives" who were supposed to be the future of the Republican Party in California. They will side with you on how conservatives can't win.... what? They all LOST big time?...never mind.

26 posted on 08/08/2003 8:58:03 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: ElkGroveDan
LOL! There are so many quotes from Arnold in this article, that it must be true! Arnold will be the next CA govinator. He will draw Republicans of all stripes, except those who are more concerned about the political purity of their candidates, than winning, i.e. that's what got us 4 more years of Davis in the first place, thank you very much. Arnold will also draw independents and Demorats of all stripes.

The recall is about the pocketbook, that is the issue to worry about in this recall.
27 posted on 08/08/2003 8:58:58 AM PDT by TheDon (Why do liberals always side with the enemies of the US?)
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To: Poohbah
... Schwarzenegger is, first and foremost, an economic and fiscal conservative ...

That's what he says and it sounds real good. So far, Arnald has talked about straightening out California and making it more business friendly. That's fine. However, Arnald is a self proclaimed social liberal and wants to get the California budget out of the red, so all the social welfare programs will have enough funding to run and no services will be further jeaprodized. That is not the agenda of a fiscal conservative and that's what Rush is tlaking about.

Getting rid of Boy Davis is the #1 priority, but don't expect Arnald, if he wins, to cut taxes and reduce spending in California.

28 posted on 08/08/2003 8:59:14 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Poohbah
serial carpetbaggers like Rush should STFU about California's politics.

Since Rush's program got it's start in Sacramento, it seems to me that he may know a little bit more about Calif. politics then you give him credit for.

29 posted on 08/08/2003 9:00:16 AM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: tallhappy
Actually Limbaugh is right and coments like like have nothing to do with carpet bagging.

You're right on the latter part.

They have nothing to do with carpet-bagging, and everything to do with keeping his ratings up.

We've tried electing "pure" conservatives out here. It doesn't happen.

30 posted on 08/08/2003 9:00:40 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Since Rush's program got it's start in Sacramento, it seems to me that he may know a little bit more about Calif. politics then you give him credit for.

Since Rush left the state 15 years ago, it seems to me that his knowledge of CA politics is similarly ancient.

31 posted on 08/08/2003 9:01:54 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.

Who ever said Arnold was like Reagan?

32 posted on 08/08/2003 9:02:49 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: ElkGroveDan
All right smartie pants, which republican faction DOES do well in in California?

Before or after the friendly fire from the "conservative base?"

33 posted on 08/08/2003 9:02:55 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
If you don't like it Rush, then run for governor yourself. It's wiiiiide open.

Costs just over $3000 to file, and you only need a few signatures that I'm sure you could pick up in a day.

It's an unprecedented recall election. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.

File to run or go shag some balls, Rush.

34 posted on 08/08/2003 9:03:39 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: ElkGroveDan
As long as conservatives don't throw thee votes
away on Arnold.

If all the true conservatives unite behind McClintock
he will win!
35 posted on 08/08/2003 9:03:50 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: Poohbah
Let's see now... In the NBC parking lot, he babbled about providing free day care, free senior care, and "taking care of everyone". He wants businesses to return to the state so that they can be properly taxed to pay for all of these goodies. His only foray into politics thus far involved raising money for schools to spend on everything but those boring, old textbooks.

Oh, but he's got that little "R" behind his name so that makes it all right.
36 posted on 08/08/2003 9:04:44 AM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: FlatLandBeer
Arnold can win.

Here we go again. If WINNING is all that matters, then we should call Bill Clinton and ask him to run as a Republican for California Governor. Forget about all that idealogical purity. HE CAN WIN! All that matters is that there is an R on his voter registration card.

For the issues that matter to the Republican grassroots that get out and make things happen, Arnold is on the worng side of everything. He is pro-abortion. He is a gun grabber, he is a homo-lover.

What? You say he's a fiscal conservative? He sponsored the big government Prop 49 to provide government after school day care for kids -- a multi-billion dollar bond boondoggle. I heard him interviewed this morning. he said the children come first. They get first dibs on the state treasury. He wants more teachers, more money for classrooms more, more, more.... The CTA are going to LOVE this guy. (I didn't hear anything about actually teaching them to read)

I see him going down in flames just like Riordan did. Let's get Bill Clinton out here. HE CAN WIN!

37 posted on 08/08/2003 9:05:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: Princeliberty; hchutch
If all the true conservatives unite behind McClintock he will win!

And proceed to lose bigtime in 2006.

BTW, if McClintock starts gaining traction, the "true conservatives" in California can be expected to engage in petty backstabbing. Witness the 2002 "friendly fire" Simon got from the usual suspects.

38 posted on 08/08/2003 9:05:29 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
I could care less about Arnold's ideology. I don't live in California and I don't ever plan to. All I know is that Arnold has all the right people screeching like stuck pigs. I got to be for anyone who has Katie Couric, Bill Maher, Julian Epstein, and all the Democrat insiders desperately seeking a camera to wax hysterical. What a day it would be if Arnold took over the California governorship! It may not be a victory for Republicans, but oh what a defeat for the dark side of American politics.
39 posted on 08/08/2003 9:06:28 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Poohbah
Sorry charlie he ain't did you here the speech,
he talking cradle to grave socialism!
40 posted on 08/08/2003 9:06:49 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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