Posted on 07/29/2003 6:25:52 AM PDT by Kieri
This morning I decided to let BRAVO have an earful. Here is my email:
"As a DirecTV subscriber, I am notifying you I am permanently blocking BRAVO from my menu on my DSS receiver.
Your push for homosexual-'friendly' programming demonstrates your pandering to an audience that exhibits behavior that is not only detrimental to their own health, but the health and safety of families everywhere. I refuse to risk allowing my children to see promo material on your channel, so I find it necessary to block BRAVO and will encourage others to do so. Your advertisers will no longer reach me or my family members, and I have let DirecTV know of our all too easy decision to block BRAVO.
You may consider a homosexual audience on worthy of pursuit, but families who treasure their own lifestyles think otherwise."
I encourage others to let both BRAVO and their cable/DSS companies know that you're blocking their agenda-pushing programming!
BRAVO's "Contact Us" page is here:
http://www.bravotv.com/Contact_Us/
OR you can smail mail them here:
Bravo Viewer Relations
c/o NBC Entertainment
3000 W. Alameda Ave.
Burbank, CA 90036
Lesbians? It's getting more and more confusing, tangled, and ambiguous. It's been a dozen years since I started first working out at a "Rally's Health Club". After moving to the trendy, hip, east side of town, and becoming accustomed to dressing and undressing around guys who were, uh, "different" than me (among other signs, you could often tell by the ox-eyed looks and stares), I thought I was more or less inured, or used to that sort of thing. "Live and let live". As long as it's not intruding into my invisible comfort zone.
Ha! I even supposed I was pretty good at sensing who was and who was not a buggerer. It was a little over a year ago that I found myself with a new co-worker who seemed like a great guy-- verbally agile, good sense of humor, quite a few similar interests... He was married and played amateur hockey in his spare time. Rode a Harley. Lucky me, I got to find out that, although he was married, he liked having "something on the side... something a little different..."
[Musical cue, Maestro, please: (wink, wink)
"One Night in Bangkok"/"Putting on the Ritz"...]
To say I was taken by complete surprise would be an understatement. To give him the benefit of the doubt, I sort of pretended I hadn't heard when he asked if I'd ever had any 'gay experiences'. (Thereby learning the meaning of what gay folks refer to as "denial", I've been told.) I told myself I really hadn't seen what I knew I'd seen in his face.
Wow, did that ever turn out to be fantastically helpful... Finding out this man's "secret" has been one of the most painfully awkward things that's ever happened to me. It made working on the job--in the next cubicle over-- uh, more than a little tense. I tried to bury everything with jokes, ignoring the subject (not asking, not telling) but after much initial success that strategy failed completely. It also didn't stop him from continuing to make subtle and not-so-subtle come-ons. That was to my face, of course. When I wasn't around (I eventually discovered from other co-workers) he was "stabbing my back", especially with our department head.
Anyway... to make a long story a little less painfully tedious... I found myself in the store with his wife a couple of weeks ago. I didn't know what to say, or how to continue the conversation--which I'd started-- about "Jellyhead", her husband. She's an only child, incapable of having kids, who stands to inherit A LOT of money when her aging sole surviving parent kicks off. I just didn't know how to blurt it all out--clearly, concisely, unambiguously--in 2 or 3 short, simple, declarative sentances. ...It's not my story. How do I tell it...?
So, to get to the point for this thread, yes, I think I agree with you that there are "sodomites interested in seducing normal men"... But whether or not they satisfy community standards for publicly visible swishiness is completely irrelevent. The biggest part of the issue is the secrecy, and with it, the double-standard that these guys think they own.
It's not even a liberal/conservative issue. After talking to one very happily "outted" gay guy and finding out just how many married guys go to "the bars", I'm convinced there are plenty of these kinds of guys who think of themselves as "conservative" (and often, "libertarian"). I'd also be willing to wager heavily that, as a group, this particular sub-stratum of society is given to misogynism (contempt for women) and the more overtly crude sorts of racism. (Possibly because they can't risk acknowledging their own self-hatred, but have to find some sort of outlet.) I'd be willing to go out on a limb and bet they're evenly divided between "liberals" and "conservatives", or that their actual place on the political spectrum tends equally towards both extremes of the scale. For every Jean Genet, there is an Ernst Rohm. Or something like that. The socially liberal and socially traditional conservatives on this board (along with the lurking socially conservative liberals and the more-or-less broad-minded centrists) can keep beating each other to death, but I think it's a waste of effort.
Some of you sound like you're talking about completely eliminating men on TV giving fashion advice or cooking or style tips. Geeze, what a boost to the economy that will provide. People prevented from pursuing personal goals by (presumably) some sort of state-sponsored, heavy-fisted legal injunction. Leaving that particular field wide open for all the Harley-riding, hockey-playing *invisible* buggerers. What was that you were saying about 'Germans', Dubya?
Actually, I'm hated by both sides :-)
I don't compromise my biblical viewpoints, but I try to not overstate my case when discussing non-biblical matters.
"Hitting" on a woman is the same thing as "recruiting" if she's a virgin or is married. Why can't conservatiphobic anti-religious bigots like you understand this?
I go by the facts. I have no choice. I do object to the breakdown of family. That's dangerous to this country as a whole. I wouldn't let them off scott free.
Biblically, though, I still have free will, and find their actions detestable.
As I said, even the heavily biased NARTH and "gaytostraight.org" concede that the Bailey-Pillard study has merit, even though they chose to take different things from the study itself. The admission of a known critics of homosexuality are far more convincing than the self-serving rants of a religious organization.
VR
We seem to agree on the lesbian issue.
Umm, no kidding. I never said a specific gene had been isolated, nor did I say that the X chromosome accounts for ALL occurrence of homosexuality (a claim which is ludicrous based on the fact that biology is only one -- an important one, but only one nevertheless -- aspect of determining homosexual behavior). I merely said (correctly) that homosexuality had been isolated to the X chromosome, and that that happened way back in 1993.
Try arguing with what I actually said, not with what you wish I said.
VR
How to throw a football, swap sparkplugs, drink domestic beer out of the can, field-dress game ...
Since they show no interest in a show like this, I must presume they're heterophobes.
Yeah! That's the ticket. Let's let our kids see a show where the homosexuals all have class and the straights all live like bums. And let's encourage them to watch shows where conservatives are all bums and the liberals are all class acts. What's the harm there? As some deep thinker once said, "God forbid someone sees the difference between living like a bum and living with a little class."
I would have preferred not to answer, but I did, and I won't lie about anything. Not even about the things I seriously object to.
Males, on the other hand, are a completly different story. Check the statistics on them!! Death and perversion abounds!
It's time to organize, brothers. We need funding from Washington to forcibly educate and sensitize these hetrophobes! Contact your congresscritter today!
LOL! Even in these "enlightened" times woman want men to be men, not queer, or metro sexual, or sensitive-to-their-needs.
Just be a decent sort of fellow. That'll get you more and better women than all the fashion makeovers in the world.
Yes. It would.
Eventually the paint from the make over would peel off anyway.
I wonder why liberal TV isn't teaching young men how to be real men. Guess real men are bad guys now.
Paging Jimmy Rockford. Would Mr. Rockford come to the white phone?
TV has changed from James Rockford spurning a pistol because he was so tough he didn't need to carry one. Rockford would have chewed up and spit out the Sopranos. :->
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