Freeper Grassroots Movement to Re-Elect Bush

July 24, 2003 | nwrep

[nwrep]

I want to kick off a grass-roots movement to educate and inform discerning Democrats about the real nature of their party and am soliciting suggestions from Freepers. The reasons I am doing this are several, as listed below:

* I have several conservative Democrat friends who have always voted D, but who disagree with the stance of their party on issues like AA, tax-cuts, and regulations.

* These people do not understand that regardless of the "moderate" local Dem candidate they vote for, the party agenda is driven in Congress by an extremely liberal faction of the party.

* Case in point #1: I alerted one friend to Rep. Rangel's remarks about the death of Hussein's sons yesterday (Rangel said it was "illegal" for the US to kill them). The friend said he disagreed with Rangel, and the majority of the Dems would similarly disagree with the Congressman. I asked this friend if he knew who Rangel was. He had never heard of him. I informed him coolly that if the Dem regain the House, Rangel would become the Chairman of the powerful Ways and Means Cte., where all spending bills originate, and that he is one of the most influential members of his party in the House. The friend was shocked.

* Case in point #2: I asked another Dem friend what he thought of Kerry. He gave me a canned response about his Vietnam service, etc. I then asked him if he knew about his anti-Vietnam war stance. He said he did not, but that his parents (lifelong Dem voters like himself) hated Jane Fonda and everything she stood for. I then forwarded him the NewsMax expose of Kerr's Vietnam stance, his anti-war book, his rallies with Fonda and Ramsey Clark, and his statement to the US Senate in 1971. After reading all that, he said he was disgusted, and would forward it to his mother. He conceded that if Kerry were to be the nominee, he would vote for Bush.

* The problem is that these Dem voters are blissfully unaware of the voting records of their candidates and representatives. All they go by are finely crafted campaign statements issued during the last few weeks before the election where they pay homage to FDR, Truman and JFK. As a result, these dopey Dem voters (like my friends and their parents) continue voting for these candidates thinking they are voting for FDR/JFK-like candidates.

We need to educate these people and keep them as well informed as we Freepers are about the real day to day legislative agenda of the Rat Party. We need to highlight how they continue to vote against the best interest of these conservative, patriotic Democrats (like my friends) and how they continue to display hypocrisy by constantly changing their stance on major issues.

How do we do this?

[Lazamataz]

That's weird. After seeing your reply my clock jumped ahead 45 minutes and now I'm in a chicken suit. What's up with that?

Coincidence.

I deny any involvement.

[FITZ]

I know your concerns and share them. But Bush is the best we've got.

But what is very sad is we elected a Republican president, Republican Senate, Republican Congress, and many Republican governors. And this is all we've got from it? Not a whole lot. Our previously wealthiest state is in serious trouble --$35 billion deficits but Bush decides to waste $15 billion on African Aids? I don't believe we should be bailing out California ----but certainly we don't need to be wasting so much taxpayer money on other causes.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Best graphic on the internet!

The difference between me and you, is that I see that as a gag, you all see those silly ass little icons and ridiculous made-up names as being yourselves.

I guess you didn't like my made-up names, and now, you're calling people with made-up names to take some kind of high road.

ROTFLMAO!!!

Paper tigers and toy knights.

This is about electing politicians to advance political ideologies, this isn't some BS cult of personality idiocy.

[The Coopster]

My list is longer than your list.......

Presidency of George W. Bush --the first 30 months

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America.

Passed 2 tax cuts----1 of which was the largest tax-Dollar value tax cut in history

Pushed through TWO raises for our military.

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined "collective" right.

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on Social security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid...weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises. Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions. Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton policy of not requiring parental consent under the Medical Privacy Act Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control.

Set to sign Partial Birth Abortion Ban Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes) Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska, so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes

Turning around an inherited economy in recession.

Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people

Signed into law the CFR legislation (under dark of night) Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Urging Medicare Reform

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive energy plan--awaits Congressional action. ( works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era ("In a compassionate society, people respect one another and take responsibility for the decisions they make in life. My hope is to change the culture from one that has said, if it feels good, do it; if you've got a problem, blame somebody else -- to one in which every single American understands that he or she are responsible for the decisions that you make; you're responsible for loving your children with all your heart and all your soul; you're responsible for being involved with the quality of the education of your children; you're responsible for making sure the community in which you live is safe; you're responsible for loving your neighbor, just like you would like to be loved yourself. " -----this quote was too good to leave out)

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Pushing for passage of Prescription Drug Benefit package for Seniors which will have 'means' testing

Pushing for privatization of Medicare and CHOICES based on current Federal Employee Health benefits program.

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (review to be done by September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations ( in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Enivironmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.


So remind me again just how evil he is?

[Mulder]

Do you think there's any hope at this point or a primary challenge?

Doesn't look like any in the Republican Party. I'd like to see Ron Paul run though.

I saw yesterday that Jim Traficiant was thinking about running. If so, that would make him the most conservative candidate running from either party.

[Luis Gonzalez]

And by the way Einstein, whether I was posting under my REAL name (what's yours by the way?) or mimicking "others" with similar html, I stood by the very same convictions.

[carenot]

I would support Rep. Todd Akin, Missouri 2nd District. But there are numerous candidates who could unite the conservative and pro-liberty movements in both parties.

I am not familiar with Todd Akin but I will look him up.

I do love Ron Paul.

[Miss Marple]

Your ancestors? You are dragging your ancestors into this? How pompous and elitist!

My family settled Kentucky, and I am descended from Squire Boone, Daniel's brother. The other branch of my family left the Highlands during the war with England. Later branches came here as immigrants from Denmark and Guernsey. You have no right to act like YOU are the sole defender of the Constitution nor that YOU have the perfect answers nor that YOU have some special claim on the nation's history.

My dad won 2 Bronze Stars in WWII. I was an Air Force wife in West Berlin. I saw Communists up close and personal and I find your divisive blathering about Republicans being socialists to be destructive.

I don't care who you campaigned for. If you were campaigning for a Republican opponent to Gephardt, then holding the values that you do, you apparently took the party's help under false pretenses.

Your attack on Republicans is absolutely destructive to this nation. Stand on your position and continue to speak out for the destruction of both parties. All that will happen if people follow your idea is that the democrats will stick together and win. I am not buying it for one minute.

And I still question your motivation. You have not explained to me how your plan would help conservatives gain control of anything.

[Mark Felton]

Ron Paul, has been perhaps one of the best Constitutional purists, but he may not be quite the best for motiviating the grassroots conservatives, or the Democrat pro-liberty, pro-constituionalists and Catholics.

Todd Akin could almost instantly win the support of the displaced social conservatives (the religious right-wing) and yet he still has sufficient pragmatism and appeal to win over the blue-collar conservatives (who normally vote Democrat).

Keep in mind that there are a huge number of Democrats (40%+) who support conservative values but would never vote Republican for historical, tribal reasons.

[AAABEST]

"I guess you didn't like my made-up names, and now, you're calling people with made-up names to take some kind of high road. ROTFLMAO!!! Paper tigers and toy knights. This is about electing politicians to advance political ideologies, this isn't some BS cult of personality idiocy." - Louie "Dark Drake" Gonzalez' excuse after being exposed as a fraud.

[Mark Felton]

'And I still question your motivation. You have not explained to me how your plan would help conservatives gain control of anything."

I do not owe you a response. You have not earned the right to receive an "explanation" from me about anything.

Your ignorance of socialism tells me you really need remedial 6th grade history, not an "explanation" from me of far more advanced political concepts and strategy.

Your questioning my motivations without having a clue about me or my dedication to the Republican party in the 1990's tells me you are nothing more than a knee-jerk reactionary that is uninterested truth and reality.

Cheerleaders should stay on the side-line and look pretty. They should not attempt to play a game they do not understand.

[carenot]

I looked him up. He sounds good.

I didn't see a rating from GOA. Do you know how they rate him?

[Miss Marple]

I see. I am a sophomoric cheerleader undeserving of an explanation, while you are smarter than all of us dimwits and have a plan to take over, but only smart people will be let in on the secret.

Perhaps one reason your candidate lost to Gephardt is that you scorned those who weren't as enlightened as you. Ha!

[carenot]

while you are smarter than all of us dimwits and have a plan to take over, but only smart people will be let in on the secret.

No he told me. :)

[Mark Felton]

I forgot to add.

Your questions about my "plans" (I have no plans) might begin to answered in my posts to carenot beginning at #89.

As for taking "party help" during the Gephardt campaign; there was no party help. Do you understand?

You think I am destroying the nation by demanding the removal of anti-Constitution politicians in both parties? That is like saying I am destroying a house because I am killing the termites.

[Miss Marple]

Well, you go right ahead. I think you have to get some judges appointed and other such things, as well as convincing MILLIONS of people that certain programs are unconstitutional and should be elminated.

Elected officials go where the votes are. They cannot impose their unwanted positions on the population for more than one election cycle, unless, of course, you elect democrats who then will use everything in their arsenal, legal or illegal, constitutional or not, to remain in power.

I have chosen to work with the party that comes closer to what I believe; you think you can remake both parties. I believe you are wrong, and there is nothing more to say.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Fraud?

LOL!

You think that I was exposed?

Hell, if I didn't want to get caught, no one would have been able to catch me, even by tracking my ISP...but then again, I don't expect you to know that unless it's been explained to you.

I like the fact that you're in here, and unable to respond to issues, you launch personal attacks...learned a lot at Clinton's lap, didn't you?

Go on calling the cavalry, you and I are going to rock today; we'll raise a glass to the last man standing.

[Mark Felton]

"I didn't see a rating from GOA. Do you know how they rate him?"

No I don't, but he was certainly active and out-front on the CCW propositions in Missouri when he was a State Representative.

He is a Presbyterian homeschooler. His son is attending Annapolis? (maybe Westpoint), and unlike most politicians he has been arrested defending the rights of the unborn.

But again, there are others who could lead the charge, but this movement is not necessarily about having a single leader follow a single personality to the voting booth.

This movement is much more like the 1994 take-over of Congress. It was done based on a common set of ideas and values that were well defined by the Contract for America. Most of the Republicans that were newly elected won without Republican party direct financial support. When people voted then they were not voting because Newt Gingrich was such a great leader, they were voting for their local guy because he was joining a force that was committed to implementing the Contract for America.

[AAABEST]

Louie "darkdrake" Gonazles

"Fraud? LOL! You think that I was exposed? Hell, if I didn't want to get caught, no one would have been able to catch me, even by tracking my ISP...but then again, I don't expect you to know that unless it's been explained to you. I like the fact that you're in here, and unable to respond to issues, you launch personal attacks...learned a lot at Clinton's lap, didn't you? Go on calling the cavalry, you and I are going to rock today; we'll raise a glass to the last man standing." - More tapdancing by Louie "I got caught on purpose" Gonzalez.

[Luis Gonzalez]

I didn't get caught on purpose, I didn't CARE if I got caught.

Go on, give ot your best...it isn't enough.

BTW, where are the troops?