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OK, FReepers! It's time we took the fight to them!
Today | RandallFlagg

Posted on 07/23/2003 11:30:23 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

This is not bashing Free Republic.com, nor it is bashing members here. On the contrary, this place is one of the best sites for news, information and opinions on the web.

But, to be honest, sticking around here and chatting amongst ourselves is just preaching to the choir. We need to go on the offensive.

I've been going to the Metallica.com message boards and raising hell in what I call, "Hostile Territory". I haven't turned many to our side, but I have educated many. It's really a challenge. Others have probably been doing this for a while now.

I think we need to do more of this. We should find any site with a forum that has any threads that say things like, "Bush Sucks," or, "America imperialist killers," or the like. I'm starting this thread to try and make a place that we FReepers can use to gather and consolidate our sources and facts. Also we can use it as a place to bring up arguments that are just so silly and childish, that they should be read and laughed at by others.

I, for one, am sick of being on the defensive all the time. So, I crush all the lies with facts gathered on the web and all the conservative books I own. If more of us did the same, we'd be an even stronger force to be reckoned with..

Remember the rules of the other forums, debate with dignity and logic. Expect to be banned from these sites sometimes.

Our President said, "Bring it on." This is what I'm doing.

Good luck!


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To: RandallFlagg
I just went in as E Rocc. If you've got anti-war lefties there, consider posting the lyrics to Don't Tread On Me. I would but time is tight lately.

-Eric

41 posted on 07/24/2003 5:25:34 AM PDT by E Rocc (Truth is to liberals like garlic is to vampires)
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To: Houmatt; RandallFlagg; TheRightGuy; chicagolady; Chi-townChief
You wanna go to the Lion's Den? Go to Liberty Post.

LP is a lost cause. You will not change anyones opinion there, etc.

Instead, focus your attention on other forums that contain the "wishy-washy" types who you can address, even when faced with lots of dissent from the standing leftists. I do this quite frequently, mainly at a PC forum I subscribe. My reasons are not just what Randall mentions, but mostly because FR is so like-minded I don't always get to have 'fun', if you know what I mean.

Also, check out the forums of newspapers, TV stations, etc. They are full of the misinformed.

42 posted on 07/24/2003 5:34:37 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Apparently, the Hockey God's don't love us much this year...)
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To: RedWing9; chicagolady; Chi-townChief; NormalGuy; All
Also, check out the forums of newspapers, TV stations, etc. They are full of the misinformed.

OR ... we might try something really novel, like talking one on one with actual registered voters in our precincts.

43 posted on 07/24/2003 5:46:38 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: TheRightGuy
OR ... we might try something really novel, like talking one on one with actual registered voters in our precincts.

Nah, that's not 'novel', that's old as dirt... ;o)

44 posted on 07/24/2003 5:50:42 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Apparently, the Hockey God's don't love us much this year...)
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To: snopercod
Off topic, but I slammed our local library in a letter-to-editor for having 5 copies of Lying History, but zero copies of Ann Coulter's "Treason". May get published today...

Good for you!
I haven't read Treason yet, but am holding out till my vacation next month.

Speaking of copies of Her Hillaryness' paperweight, I haven't been to my local library for a while.
I wonder how many copies THEY have? I will have to check this weekend.

45 posted on 07/24/2003 8:55:06 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: AbsoluteJustice; Barnacle; BillyBoy; cfrels; chicagolady; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cynderbean; ...
For a local Chicago forum with both right and left views, I like Head Butters at:

http://www.network54.com/Hide/Index/10772

It's an offshoot of the old WLS radio chat room.
46 posted on 07/24/2003 10:16:42 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: RandallFlagg
I agree!

We need to pool our resources and information so we can counter these creeps.

As you and Pres. Bush say "Bring it on!"

47 posted on 07/24/2003 10:54:24 AM PDT by Pippin (Yesterday I learned politics can be hazardous to your health)
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To: RandallFlagg
Here's a link for you:

Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History

48 posted on 07/24/2003 12:25:50 PM PDT by PsyOp
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Here's a sample of the engagement against a smelly one.

He tells us his views of the killings of Saddam's hellspawn here.

I clean his clock...

Pretty easy to butcher their arguments.

MAN! I'm glad I made this thread!

49 posted on 07/24/2003 12:53:48 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: PsyOp
Outstanding link! Thanks!!!
50 posted on 07/24/2003 12:57:44 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Spiff
"This internal bickering, sniping, and splintering is what hurts conservatives the most."

You hit the nail on the head. My husband and I have been involved in conservative politics since 1971, and we are our own worst enemies, IMO.

Carolyn

51 posted on 07/24/2003 1:05:52 PM PDT by CDHart
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To: Constitution Day
I got a phone call from the head librarian this AM. She was very nice...just an oversight...etc. "Treason" just showed up today, and she will put me on the waiting list.

Funny, yesterday, I was told there was no waiting list.

Guess the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

52 posted on 07/24/2003 1:35:07 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: RandallFlagg
Reference bump. Thanks for the thread, RF.
53 posted on 07/24/2003 3:14:41 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: mhking; Jim Robinson
Ping. Perhaps you could tell me how to make a ping list or something similar to one of your "Hold Muh Beer" alerts for a reference to create a database for all this stuff. If there's no way to make this exclusively for FReepers, let me know and I'll consolidate all of the information collected here into a page in my website. But, I'd really like to keep it in a sub-listed area that we'd be able to use when we need it -anyone can access my site.
54 posted on 07/24/2003 4:12:29 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: RandallFlagg
I know there's such a thing as a bump list, but I've never used it and don't enough about it to tell you how. Maybe you can ask one of the people who use them?
55 posted on 07/24/2003 4:16:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Jim Robinson
OK, Jim. Thanks...

56 posted on 07/24/2003 4:18:54 PM PDT by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: RandallFlagg
they need FReeping at Time Bomb 2000
57 posted on 07/24/2003 4:26:13 PM PDT by Ferret Fawcet (Trust God's authority, not man's majority.)
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To: Houmatt; RandallFlagg
Yeah, Liberty Post is quite a hot bed. LOL. But you want a lion's den, the BET forum would be in interesting place to try. =]

At the same time, I think I need to get my own head on straight first. My research time has been limited.

FReegards....
58 posted on 07/24/2003 4:39:02 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Liberty or Death!)
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To: RandallFlagg
I agree with your approach- conversion. However, I would like to add a caveat: much time is wasted trying to convert hardened liberals. We are best off making soundbite oriented points geared towards the casually observant. Few read the paragraph-oriented arguments in discussion forums. However, if you can keep it succinct, it can work wonders. Here is an example:

SURPRISE: Democrats are Racist
*The only congressman in Washington who was a former Klansman is a DEMOCRAT- Senator Bob Byrd of W. Virginia.

SURPRISE 2: Democrats are misogynists
*Pete Stark, a California Democrat, once called a congresswoman a "whore". He never apologized for his hateful slur.

etc.

If we keep posting these things, it will sink into the mind of the most readers (most of whom are not die-hard political junkies, but still vote). It works like advertising- repetition, repetition, repetition. The form can change slightly- so people don't bore of it- but the content should remain roughly the same.
59 posted on 07/24/2003 6:13:26 PM PDT by jagrmeister
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To: RandallFlagg
www.louisvillepeace.org used to have a "Discussion Page"
during the run up to the Iraq war and I posted there all the time. Got some of the Kentucky FReepers involved and soon the Patriots outnumbered the Marxists-especially once the bombing started! They pulled that page quickly once they realized they were being e-FReeped, LOL!
60 posted on 07/24/2003 7:25:00 PM PDT by BlueOneGolf (Help KY elect a Republican Governor. Donate at http://www.fletcher2003.com/contribute.htm)
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