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White House 'lied about Saddam threat'(Gregory Thielmann, ex-StateDept)
The Guardian ^ | 7/10/03 | Julian Borger

Posted on 07/11/2003 8:45:11 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.

The claims came as the Bush administration was fighting to shore up its credibility among a series of anonymous government leaks over its distortion of US intelligence to manufacture a case against Saddam.

This was the first time an administration official has put his name to specific claims. The whistleblower, Gregory Thielmann, served as a director in the state department's bureau of intelligence until his retirement in September, and had access to the classified reports which formed the basis for the US case against Saddam, spelled out by President Bush and his aides.

Mr Thielmannn said yesterday: "I believe the Bush administration did not provide an accurate picture to the American people of the military threat posed by Iraq."

He conceded that part of the problem lay with US intelligence, but added: "Most of it lies with the way senior officials misused the information they were provided."

As Democrats demanded a congressional enquiry, the administration sharply changed tack. The defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, told the Senate the US had not gone to war against Iraq because of fresh evidence of weapons of mass destruction but because Washington saw what evidence there was prior to 2001 "in a dramatic new light" after September 11.

At a press conference yesterday, Mr Thielmann said that, as of March 2003, when the US began military operations, "Iraq posed no imminent threat to either its neighbours or to the United States".

In one example, Mr Thielmann said a fierce debate inside the White House about the purpose of aluminium tubes bought by Baghdad had been "cloaked in ambiguity".

While some CIA analysts thought they could be used for gas centrifuges to enrich uranium, the best experts at the energy department disagreed. But the national security advisor, Condoleezza Rice, said publicly that they could only be used for centrifuges.

Mr Thielmann also said there was no significant pattern of cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaida. He added: "This administration has had a faith-based intelligence attitude ... 'We know the answers - give us the intelligence to support those answers'."

Responding to claims of deliberate distortions, Mr Bush accused his critics of "trying to rewrite history" and insisted "there is no doubt in my mind" that Saddam "was a threat to world peace".


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To: Diddle E. Squat
This guy leaves the government in September of 2002 and knows that Bush lied in a speech given in January 2003. Guy must be clarvoyent or a liar himself.
21 posted on 07/11/2003 9:36:04 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: mhking
The White House overrode the CIA's objections about a statement in President Bush's State of the Union address that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa for its nuclear weapons program, CBS Evening News reported on July 10, 2003. White House officials argued that since a paper issued by the British government contained the assertion, if it was attributed to Britain it would be factually accurate, CBS reported. Bush is shown during the State of the Union address, with Vice President Dick Cheney, Jan. 28. REUTERS/Larry Downing-Files

22 posted on 07/11/2003 9:39:33 AM PDT by berserker
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To: Yo-Yo
Then let's tell Saddam he can come out of hiding, let him have his country back, we'll apologize and leave, and Mr. Thielmann can move to Baghdad.

Operation Nevermind.

23 posted on 07/11/2003 9:39:55 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Dave S
"This guy leaves the government in September of 2002

You'll notice they didn't say what year that month of September was in. You've assumed it was last year, but with the media, who can tell?

24 posted on 07/11/2003 10:00:47 AM PDT by mass55th (i)
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To: mass55th
You'll notice they didn't say what year that month of September was in. You've assumed it was last year, but with the media, who can tell?

You're right. He may have left 9/12/01 after screwing up his intelligence appraisal of Al Qaeda.

25 posted on 07/11/2003 10:21:51 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"A former US intelligence official who served under the Bush administration in the build-up to the Iraq war accused the White House yesterday of lying about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein."

Uh, huh. Funny, then, that the CIA signed off on intelligence that Bush used to prepare his speech.

26 posted on 07/11/2003 11:45:55 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: berserker
"The White House overrode the CIA's objections about a statement in President Bush's State of the Union address that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa for its nuclear weapons program, CBS Evening News reported on July 10, 2003."

News is today (7/11/03), that the CIA signed off on the intelligence that Bush used in preparing his SOU address.

27 posted on 07/11/2003 11:49:12 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
If so, then the State of the Union Speach oddly worded the claim. It appears that it was worded that way to avoid CIA difficulties. As noted previously, "White House officials argued that since a paper issued by the British government contained the assertion, if it was attributed to Britain it would be factually accurate" (though known to have problems).

I guess it depends on what the definition of "is" is.

28 posted on 07/11/2003 12:02:46 PM PDT by berserker
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To: Dog; William McKinley
FYI.
29 posted on 07/13/2003 4:24:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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