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Breyer wonders if Constitution is relevant (SCARY)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 7/6/03 | Worldnetdaily

Posted on 07/07/2003 12:00:00 PM PDT by ModernDayCato

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To: DoughtyOne
That's why militias were in the news so much a while back. Some of them are loony, but by no means all, and of course the media is very careful and meticulous about portraying citizens as nutty, dangerous wack jobs if they adhere to a strict interpretation of the constitution. None of the lefties will come out and say it publicly, but they believe that the constitution has to go - we're "extremists", and in large part they have succeeded in legislating around it. We have no one to blame but ourselves, although I expect it's going to get "interesting" within a decade or so.
21 posted on 07/07/2003 12:47:52 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: ModernDayCato
Article VI (excerpts):

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land ...

... all ... judicial Officers ... of the United States ... shall be bound by Oath or Affimation, to support this Constitution ...

Treaties are subservient to the Constitution, and Justices are bound by Oath to support the Constitution. Those that don't, have violated their Oath and must be Impeached, Tried, Convicted, Removed from Office, and barred from ever holding any office of the United States.
22 posted on 07/07/2003 12:51:40 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
I completely agree. The only problem is that ALL branches of our government routinely ignore, subvert and twist the Constitution.

I'm quite sure that nothing's going to be done about it either.

Got this cheery news from one of my wacky conspiracy newsletters:

"And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD." [Joel 2:30-31]

For the first time, maybe ever, "signs and wonders" in the heaven and the earth that might be harbingers of the End of the Age are occurring at the same time.

a). Red Moon eclipse -- May 15 - 16

b). Black Sun eclipse -- May 31, an eclipse so rare we shall not see another one like it for the remainder of the 21st Century! (Yahoo News, may 31). Former witch, Pastor David Myers of Last Trumpet Newsletter, July issue, explains the significance of this Black Sun eclipse to the occultist.

"... the sun rose in a very peculiar way, and something happened that has never happened before according to the scientists. It was visible primarily from England, the so-called 'holy land of the witches.' The sun rose in the east during an annular eclipse, and the appearance was exactly like two sharp horns of light rising out of the sea. The eclipse took place precisely at sunrise, and the horns, like a beast rising out of the sea were seen for exactly 1 minute and 13 seconds."

We noted that many American and European leaders were in either England, Europe, or Northern Russia, where the view of this eclipse was best.

c). The planet, Mars, draws ever closer. Again, Pastor Myers explains the significance to a practicing Satanist:

"... the planet Mars usually is from 45 to 60 or more million miles from the earth. On August 27, 2003, it will be within 34.6 million miles from the earth, and for the first time in all of recorded history, it will be brighter than Venus, the so-called goddess of love. Mars will be bright in the South on the ecliptic line for about five weeks beginning on August 27th. Even with a small telescope the polar ice cap will be seen. In the occultists and witches’ religion, it means final war is looming as the god of war (Mars) outshines the goddess of love (Venus)." [Ibid.; Emphasis added] With so many other signs pointing to a possible outbreak of the planned World War III in the immediate future, understanding how an occultist looks at signs in the heavens is very helpful.

d). "A PORTAL IS OPENING", http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/, June 26, 2003. Note: this is a New Age site.

"... the ´Regulus day´ conjunction of 2003 (August 22-23) will be extra special because the sun-Regulus alignment will be joined by not one but two more planets, Jupiter and Venus. In other words, we´ll have a ridiculous Sun-Regulus-Jupiter-Venus-Earth alignment on the eastern horizon while ´from the sky will come a great king of terror´ called Mars on the western horizon! Mars will be closer than in 60,000 years."

Thus, according to this New Age astronomer, the earth will see a very unusual "sign in the heavens" August 22-23, the same time period in which Mars will draw so close that "the god of war (Mars) outshines the goddess of love (Venus)." (Quoted above).

In fact, most New Agers believe the "portal opened" during June 21-24, during the Spring Equinox. Is that "portal" the soon appearance of Antichrist? We cannot be sure, but we can certainly be watchful.

Signs and wonders.

23 posted on 07/07/2003 12:59:01 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: You Dirty Rats
and Justices are bound by Oath to support the Constitution. Those that don't, have violated their Oath and must be Impeached, Tried, Convicted, Removed from Office, and barred from ever holding any office of the United States.

I just wanted to see that again. Absolutely!!!

24 posted on 07/07/2003 1:01:58 PM PDT by Mr.Atos
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To: ModernDayCato
INTREP
25 posted on 07/07/2003 1:06:42 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: DoughtyOne; You Dirty Rats
This is an outrage. Don't the justices take an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land? Is this not clear evidence that at least 2 of them, Breyer and O'Connor do not? I think they ought to be impeached and removed from the bench.

Furtehrmore, according to these morons, foreign laws are to be considered before ours, so in effect the old Taliban laws and other Sharia laws are to be considered before ours? So O'Connor should then to put on a Burka and get a cliterectomy?

26 posted on 07/07/2003 1:20:09 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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27 posted on 07/07/2003 1:27:31 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: af_vet_1981
"The proper response is to impeach them and remove them from office."

Agreed. Anyone know how it can be done. At least Breyer has publically admitted that he has violated his oath.


28 posted on 07/07/2003 1:32:25 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: KC_Conspirator
BTTT
29 posted on 07/07/2003 1:34:11 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato
We have seen the U.S. Constitution blatantly misinterpreted and outrightly trampled for several decades now, but I believe most of the people currently recognize it as the supreme law of the land.

The U.S. Supreme Court exists only because the U.S. Constitution was written to establish a judicial branch of government in addition to the executive and legislative branches. It was established by the People, via their chosen delegates. Without the U.S. Constitution, there is no U.S. government; just some small groups of criminals temporarily blocking the re-establishment of a legitimate government.

If the U.S. Constitution is irrelevant (as Breyer proposes), then the Supreme Court, as well as the whole U.S. government is irrelevant (actually non-existent), and we are back to the situation this country faced when the following words were written:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

[insert a very long list of current grievances here]

... is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Nobody likes to see a nasty divorce, but they still happen.

30 posted on 07/07/2003 1:34:35 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Support Free Republic
Hi, SFR. Good work. I didn't realize it was that time again.
31 posted on 07/07/2003 1:34:57 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: meadsjn
All true. But there's something very important here that we keep forgetting --

but I believe most of the people currently recognize it as the supreme law of the land.

'The Constitution' has become an abstract idea rather than a real document. The best example I can cite is The Bible. My 88 year old grandmother has gone to church just about every week of her life -- but she's never read the Bible. She knows that it is the basis for the Church and her religion, and the Priests tell her what's in it, but she's never actually read it.

My guess would be that since it's no longer taught in school most people don't revere the Constitution the way we do. And that's dangerous. That's how they get away with what they do.

A few years ago I bought a hundred copies of The Pocket Constitution, and gave them out to people who were Constitutionally challenged. It took about two months to give them all away.

32 posted on 07/07/2003 1:41:42 PM PDT by ModernDayCato
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To: Bahbah
Agreed. Anyone know how it can be done.

The House brings charges for impeachment. The Senate holds a trial and votes to convict or acquit.

33 posted on 07/07/2003 1:42:53 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: ModernDayCato
Traitor!

Is Breyer's view of the Constitution and democracy what GIs are dying for in Iraq?


34 posted on 07/07/2003 1:54:20 PM PDT by DraftAshcroft2004
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To: af_vet_1981
Hmmmm, thanks for the info. Going to have to watch this one.
35 posted on 07/07/2003 1:55:57 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: ModernDayCato
Breyer sounds like an unelected, unaccountable judicial dictator.
36 posted on 07/07/2003 2:05:32 PM PDT by 7DayRepo
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To: ModernDayCato
This attitude on the part of elitist Justices should come as no surprise.

Remember, the Constitution is what they say it is, and if they want to mix and match our Constitution with those of other nations what's to stop them?

Why can't we just UNelect these justices and elect justices who think more highly of what the Founding Fathers gave us? Oh? Because they're APPOINTED and not ELECTED? Well, why don't we change that?

These high court justices are an arrogant lot. That's what happens when you're given a life-time appointment, have no accountability, get a swelled head from the groupies that dote on your every word, and have the ability to change social culture with a single ruling.


37 posted on 07/07/2003 2:44:19 PM PDT by Noachian (Legislation without Representation has no place in a free Republic)
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To: ModernDayCato
The short answer to your question, and the "issue" proposed by this thread, is this:

Justice Breyer has just demonstrated that he is irrelevant to the Supreme Court, that he is unfit to serve on it, that he neither understands nor respects the Constitution, and that he should resign immediately.

Does that cover the waterfront?

Congressman Billybob

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38 posted on 07/07/2003 2:55:52 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Saddam has left the building. Heck, the building has left the building.")
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To: ModernDayCato
Europe departed from Western tradition the minute Hitler and Mussolini took power, and it never returned. If these Justices believe the US Constitution is irrelavant and they cannot discharge their duties, then they should step down immediately.
39 posted on 07/07/2003 3:10:51 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Congressman Billybob
Relevant?  No serious observer would describe
the Tenth Amendment as anything but a dead letter.

Then there's this:

Consider the following statements by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas in a concurring opinion in U. S. v. Lopez (1995):

We have said that Congress may regulate not only 'Commerce…among the several states,'…but also anything that has a 'substantial effect' on such commerce. This test, if taken to its logical extreme, would give Congress a 'police power' over all aspects of American life.

Under our jurisprudence, if Congress passed an omnibus 'substantially affects interstate commerce' statute, purporting to regulate every aspect of human existence, the Act apparently would be constitutional.

Justice Thomas went on to state that under the substantially affects interstate commerce test adopted by the Court, "[c]ongress can regulate whole categories of activities that are not themselves either 'interstate or commerce.'"

40 posted on 07/07/2003 3:20:03 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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