Posted on 06/19/2003 9:30:09 AM PDT by uplandgame
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Why pose a rhetorical question when the answer is readily available? The Albanians are more motivated by ethnic bonds than they are by religion, and the ties between the KLA and any Muslim terrorist group that we're worried about are dwarfed by their ties with the diaspora here in America. It's almost as if the LDK and 10 years of political oppression never occurred in these threads - Milosevic invalidated the non-violent opposition in Kosovo and played into the KLA's hands by making them the only game in town if you were a Kosovar Albanian and you were tired of European apartheid in Kosovo.
You point to our being able to see the WTC attacks as a differentiating factor, but we had also seen what had happened in the Balkans at places like Vukovar and Srebrenica, and saw the same leaders and units moving into Kosovo - once the first plane hit, was there really a doubt as to what the second would do once it came into the picture?
The Serbian Socialist party is scum, Danny - and they gain far too much traction here on FR by retooling their lies for an American audience. There's this whole weird Stockholm syndrome thing going on with some Serbs and Milosevic - don't buy into it.
Finally, yes, the actual quote is along the lines of "they may have been murdered", which again invites a discussion as to the accuracy of the information presented in the article at the head of this thread, no?
It's an old argument, btw, and ignores the forcible expulsion of over 800,000 civilians out of Kosovo and into Albania and Macedonia.
Ha! His legacy = Monica...forever)
All your accusations don't mean squat if you can't back it up with facts.
Milosevic will walk.
I think there were additional factors.
The Chinese scandal was breaking news. With their Chinese friends coming for a State Dinner that had to be removed from the papers and airwaves.
Legacy building. Yugoslavia could be portrayed as Soviet Union light.
Keep the Muslims and Vatican placated.
But, I still think the major factor was clinton's Globalist desire to show that National Sovereignty could be disregarded at will.
One of the main defence strategies Milosevic was pursuing in regards to Bosnia, being he had nothing to do with it, has been thoroughly disproven by the fact that the BSA's salaries were paid from Belgrade, and the recent disclosure of orders to Serbian MUP units who ultimately reported to Milosevic were operating around Sarajevo to move to Srebrenica prior to the massacre there.
Command responsibility has been established, and had you bothered to familiarize yourself with the indictment and the actual charges, you wouldn't be making such ignorant statements, duckln.
The only place Milosevic is going to walk will be in the exercise yard.
Those particular VRS members (the ones who had previously been JNA members) were only receiving their social insurance payments which they had legally accrued as citizens of Yugoslavia and as members of the JNA. They were simply being paid the money that they were already owed.
"As for the funds spent on weapons and ammunition and the other needs of the Bosnian Serb Republic Army and the Croatian Serb Republic Army, as these were state secrets they could not be shown in the budget, which is a public document. The same is true of the expenses for equipping the security forces and counter-terrorist forces."
That would be none other than Slobodan Milosevic - in his appeal against the charges of Abuse of Power in Serbia.
So you've got Milosevic himself stating that money from Belgrade was paying for the war in Bosnia - you can quibble about the salaries being something else with Borisav Jovic, who has already admitted that, as the Bosnian Serbs couldn't afford to pay them, Belgrade continued to do so after the soldiers took off their JNA patches and replaced them with BSA patches, which was about the only change that occurred upon the JNA's supposed withdrawal from Bosnia.
The command responsibility charge is pretty much a done deal right now, DEI.
Croatia and Germany financed the bosnian Croat army, the US and Saudi Arabia financed the bosnian muslim army. Serbia financed the Bosnian Serb Army and the Croatian Serb Army. So what? Serbia should have annexed these territories during the early 90's instead of providing covered support to them. That's about the anything Slobodan Milosevic can be charged with.
An end to the specious defences of Milosevic and his actions - you've pretty much conceded the point on the command responsibility issue, DEI.
Perhaps we can move on to other things, like figuring out how to rebuild the Serbian economy and integrating it into Europe.
That would be nice for a change, and as there's no end of opportunities for rancorous disagreement when it comes to economics, we could maintain our usual relationship while arguing about how to construct a better future rather than apportioning blame for a disasterous past.
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