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Marie Antoinette II - Why is Martha Stewart Being Singled Out? Is it Because She's Civilized?
Comte De Maistre

Posted on 06/05/2003 7:35:20 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

I have been listening to the Martha Stewart stories over the last couple of days, and there seems to be a lot of glee out there over her being indictment, both from liberal and conservative commentators. I am not one of those PC people who believes Martha Stewart is being persecuted because she is a woman or a celebrity. I am sure that if female celebrities with messed up lives, like Rosie O'Donnell, Roseanne Barr, or Ellen Degeneres, were in similar trouble, they would get much more sympathy than Martha is getting. Why do you think tabloids like the National Enquirer are so popular among the brain-dead uncultured masses? Also, does anyone remember Bill Clinton's approval ratings of 60% during his impeachment? Clinton received such support because he is a backward hillbilly trailer-trash hick, and ordinary people were able to feel (justifiably) that they were better than him.

For those familiar with European history, you will recall that the world's first communist revolution took place in France in 1789. The French Royal couple were subsequently executed in 1793. When the beautiful French Queen, Marie Antoinette, was being taken to the gallows, crowds of uncultured peasants cheered, out of sheer hatred and jealousy at her elegance. I fear that the glee over Martha Stewart's problems is similar to that Marie Antoinette.

Let's face facts. Insider trading happens every single day on Wall Street, but is rarely prosecuted. The few past incidents where high profile figures have been prosecuted for insider trading, have almost always involved additionally more serious finacial crimes, and amounts involved have often been in the tens of millions (or hundreds of millions) of dollars. Martha Stewart sold stock worth $228,000, and her excess profit as a result of her insider tip was $42,000. If it happened to any other powerful person, male or female, they would probably have paid a fine, and surrendered their profit margin, and nothing more would have been heard on the matter. But Martha was unable to get a plea deal this week, because the prosecutors are absolutely determined that she should do jail time. It is a case of wanting to rub her beautiful face in the mud.

Let's face it. Martha is not being targetted and hated because she is a woman, but because she represents highest symbolic elements of Western Civilization - culture, refinement, success, beauty, capitalism, hard work, efficiency, elegance, intelligence, organization, near-perfection, etc. Martha makes most people feel inferior. The semi-civilized peasant masses, who are largely descended from the barbarians who over-run the Roman empire in the 5th Century AD, and who are also descended from the brigands who pillaged and plundered Europe in the Middle Ages, cannot stand the fragrance of a beautiful flower of high culture like Martha Stewart, and want to trample her under their feet.

Martha is hated because she occuppies the highest plane of civilized standards known to man today. And that ticks many levellers off, whether they are Marxists of the left, or populists of the right.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: New York; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: capitalism; civilization; highstandards; martha; marthastewart; success
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Okay, I wanted to stir up folks a little bit.

I suppose some will argue that the Aristocracy is a European anachronism, and that America was founded on egalitarian ideals. But although the founding fathers opposed the rule of King George III, they were not egalitarians by any stretch of the imagination. That is why they limited the right to vote to those who had property.

Thomas Jefferson opposed a hereditary aristocracy, but believed in a natural aristocracy, in which people rose to the top based on their "virtues" and "talents". Jefferson was America's Renaissance Man, and he is the most refined and cultured man this nation has ever produced. When Jefferson served as American ambassador to France, he was revered in the Royal Court of King Louis XVI. That was back in the days when France was a highly civilized nation, and not the trashy country it is today.

And I'll bet that Jefferson would have been thrilled to have Martha decorate Monticello, at the time it was built.

1 posted on 06/05/2003 7:35:20 PM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Because she's a liar and a crook?
2 posted on 06/05/2003 7:39:13 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Though I may argue with you and the SEC over "insider trading" laws, Stewart is a Clintonite.
3 posted on 06/05/2003 7:41:31 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: annyokie
Because she's a liar and a crook?

Absolutely!

4 posted on 06/05/2003 7:43:40 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
I'm sorry, Martha Stewart is NOT graceful or elegant.

You want grace and elegance - Barbara Bush, Laura Bush and other women of their ilk. They have class. Martha - don't get me started.
5 posted on 06/05/2003 7:43:49 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Martha is hated because she occuppies the highest plane of civilized standards known to man today.

Any woman who makes a Christmas wreath from egg shells is hardly on the "highest plane of civilized standards".

6 posted on 06/05/2003 7:43:50 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: ComtedeMaistre
The real questionis will she be let off because she is rich and famous. If she lied to the FBI and other authorities then she should pay the price. The law applies to everone.
7 posted on 06/05/2003 7:44:50 PM PDT by Charliehorse
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To: PhiKapMom
No lie! I look forward to her designing new uniforms, cell decore, and meal-preporation at Allenwood.
8 posted on 06/05/2003 7:46:54 PM PDT by annyokie (provacative yet educational reading alert)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
It's karmic: A Clinton supporter.
9 posted on 06/05/2003 7:48:28 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: ComtedeMaistre
To quote a great freeper, "Can't do the time, don't do the crime" (thanks Uncle George)


10 posted on 06/05/2003 7:49:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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ImClone stock was up 40% after today's close. It is now above $40 per share and up over 400% this year! Martha sold it around $70. By the time she comes to trial the stock will easily be back to that. Their cancer drug is HUGE. The government is idiotic for charging her, although she did not help matters by her actions.

There is NOTHING wrong with what she did, only with how she dealth with it. She should have been honest and asked: "should I have just taken the loss despite the info? Would anyone have done so"? It is absurd to charge a recipient of information with insider trading.

11 posted on 06/05/2003 7:50:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: ComtedeMaistre
And don't worry, Martha Stewart isn't the first or the last to be 'singled out'. Sign up for the SEC Newsletter. They have only just begun.


13 posted on 06/05/2003 7:50:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: annyokie
Martha reminds me of Leona Hemsley, "The Queen of Mean"
14 posted on 06/05/2003 7:50:58 PM PDT by apackof2 (If posted my comment would look like this)
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15 posted on 06/05/2003 7:51:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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16 posted on 06/05/2003 7:52:12 PM PDT by 4mycountry (One taquila, two taquila, three taquila, floor.)
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17 posted on 06/05/2003 7:52:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
she represents highest symbolic elements of Western Civilization - culture, refinement, success, beauty, capitalism, hard work, efficiency, elegance, intelligence, organization, near-perfection, etc.

Yes, and my, doesn't she know it.

Martha makes most people feel inferior.

I suspect she makes most people feel irritated; there are many ways to be excellent, not just Martha's Way.

18 posted on 06/05/2003 7:52:47 PM PDT by Grut
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To: Calpernia
LOL!!! Check out post 16! Great minds--
19 posted on 06/05/2003 7:53:19 PM PDT by 4mycountry (One taquila, two taquila, three taquila, floor.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

20 posted on 06/05/2003 7:53:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Don't believe all you hear, spend all you have or sleep all you want.)
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