Chimps Now to be Considered Humans

National Geographic ^ | 5/19/2003 | kkindt

[kkindt]

A new report argues that chimpanzees are so closely related to humans that they should be included in our branch of the tree of life. Chimpanzees and other apes have historically been separated from humans in classification schemes, with humans deemed the only living members of the hominid family of species

[husky ed]

Sorry, thought this thread was about the "Six French journalists detained on arrival at Los Angeles".

[P.O.E.]

OK, another song lyric:

"Apeman" - by The Kinks:

I think I'm sophisticated 'cause I'm living my life like a good homo sapiens
But all around me everybody's multiplying and they're walking round they're cryin' man
So I'm no better than the animals sitting in the cages in the zoo man
Cause compared to the flowers and the birds and the trees I am an apeman.

I think I'm so educated and I'm so civilized 'cause I'm a strict vegetarian
But with the over-population and inflation and starvation and the crazy politicians
I don't feel safe in this world no more,
I don't want to die in a nuclear war.
I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an apeman.

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman

Cause compared to the sun that sits in the sky,
Compared to the clouds as they roll by,
Compared to the bugs and the spiders and flies I am an apeman.

In man's evolution he's created the city and the motor traffic rumble.
But give me half a chance and I'd be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle.

Cause the only time that I feel at ease
Is swinging up and down in the coconut trees.
Oh what a life of luxury to be like an apeman.

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodo man, oh I'm an apeman
I look out the window but I can't see the sky,
The air pollution is a-###king up my eyes,
I want to get out of this city alive and make like an apeman.

Oh come on and love me, be my apeman girl
And we'll be so happy in my apeman world.

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman
I'll be your Tarzan, you'll be my Jane,
I'll keep you warm and you'll keep me sane,
We'll sit in the trees and eat bananas all day, just like an apeman.

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman
I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodo man, oh I'm an apeman
I don't feel safe in this world no more,
I don't want to die in a nuclear war.
I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an apeman.

[kkindt]

Dear Abby,
Once upon a nothing, something blew apart?
Confused

[longshadow]

feathered placemarker

[ALS]

hit a nerve did i?

same nerve you tried to hit on me

stay out da kitchen

[Aric2000]

I'm in the pan buddy, you're the one burning in the fire.

[ALS]

Face it bubber. Your entire shtick is to accuse someone of being a "creationist" so you can feel superior in some smarmy way. Anyone can search your posts and that's about all they see.

When the table is turned, you squirm better than those you thought you could make squirm.

Do something novel...

[plusone]

Bless you!

[Liberal Classic]

Thank you. :)

[Aric2000]

bubber?

Is that a word that you made up just for me?

Isn't that sweet.

Hey, I couldn't care less if someone is a creationist, fine with me, but when they claim that their religious myth shoould replace a scientific theory, or claims that it somehow has more clout, I find it loathsome, and arrogant.

It is a myth, it is a story, it is a morality tale, nothing more, nothing less.

It is religion, and if you fight science with religion, expect science to fight back.

BUT, if you use science, REAL science, and not this ID crap, then you might actually make some headway, though I seriously doubt it.

Be a creationist, fine, but don't shove it down my kids throat at a public school, and don't try to disprove evolution with it.

It's religion, deal with it.

[Aric2000]

And the do something novel sounds like good advice, why don't you take it?

[ALS]

I never said a "religious myth" should replace a "scientific theory".

Again, you auto-assigned all these whacky hate Godisms to me because I called your sillyass theory, Crap.

Like I said, that's your m.o..

If you can't reposition the opposition into a pew somewhere, you're simply lost with what to do with yourself.

I think this pretty much sums up my point:
Aric2000 said-
"Be a creationist, fine, but don't shove it down my kids throat at a public school, and don't try to disprove evolution with it."

keep digging it bubber...

[Aric2000]

OK, so let's see, you say evolution iis crap, yet you have NOTHING to back that statement up with.

You say that I hate creationists, when in fact that is not at all true, I think creationists are suckers, but they have a right to believe whatever they want.

But you claim that you are NOT a creationist, yet you use every argument that they do, you claim that you are not a creationist, yet you use the same argumentative style that they do.

You claim that you are not creationist, yet you are as scientifically illiterate as they are.

Puts you in the creationist camp, if you ask me, and quite a few others.

Or,, you are just a disruptor, and don't have a clue what you believe, and just want to start flame wars.

That last looks pretty close too.

[ALS]

No end to what you make up.

A. I never claimed I was a creationist.
B. I never claimed I wasn't a creationist.
C. I'm not the only one you AUTO-ASSIGN these attributes to, when said individual opposes your whimsey
D. How old are you?
E. Look at the bright side. You're finally learning the alphabet.

[Aric2000]

OH, look at E: isn't that nice?

Yes, you obviously need to take your own advice.

But I must say, it is fun to get a rile out of you, it's just so EASY......

[ALS]

yer the one with yer knickers in a knot

age?

[mississippi red-neck]

I suppose they will vote Democratic party line.

I doubt it, I think they are probably to intelligent to be a democrat.

[Sentis]

If your not a creationist what are you? I mean if you don't believe in evolution and you don't believe in Creationism does that means it's elephants all the way down?

[ALS]

Who did you say your god was again?

refresh us

[Sentis]

How does that enter into the question I asked? I mean you never asked me that question in the first place. In fact you have never asked me a question before. Is this somesort of tactic to avoid the question I asked?

I asked you a question what are you? To answer your question (which to remind you this is the first time you asked) I am an athiest... how is that for a straight answer but then again I'm a conservative evolutionist so I'm in the most honest group in the world :)