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Real Southern Barbeque
Shucks.net ^ | 13 May 2003 | Brad Edmonds

Posted on 05/13/2003 4:44:31 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

The origins of term "barbeque" and the cooking methods associated with it are lost to history. The term itself may derive from a French term meaning something to the effect of "head to tail." Indeed, much barbeque involves cooking the entire animal. Some stories say the tradition in the US dates to the 1700s in Virginia and North Carolina, among colonists who perhaps learned the technique from American Indians or Caribbean aborigines. Given that the basic requisites are meat and fire, barbequing probably dates back about as far back as human use of fire.

As to the term "barbeque" today, different people take it different ways. There is "grilling" the meat is within several inches of the flames, such as with an hibachi, and you get grill marks; and "smoking" the meat is nowhere near the flames, and the hot smoke itself cooks the meat. According to 19th-century cowboy traditions, the meat should be cooked at around 200 degrees F., so any place near a flame would be too hot. The smoke flavor itself is part of the objective; keeping the meat tender and juicy is the rest (though I don t believe I ve ever eaten a juicy barbequed brisket).

For "barbeque," some people think smoking and some think grilling. It would be helpful if we could come up with some additional terms one for smoking and then slathering with barbeque sauce, one for smoking while basting with barbeque sauce, another for grilling while basting. Perhaps another for grilling and then basting. For now, when somebody sells or otherwise offers you something they claim has been barbequed, look around or ask how it was cooked. You re not being rude; cooking meat is an art, and the more you can learn about the flavors and textures that result from different techniques, the better. Most cooks and chefs are pleased to hear "how did you prepare this?"

At cookoffs, Texans often will smoke a piece of meat for six hours or more, up to six feet away from the flame. A more common technique is to have the meat directly over the flame, but a low flame, with the whole contraption enclosed to keep in the smoke. This is a more practical alternative to fabricating a grill that measures 3' by 5' by 7'.

There s pretty much one real regional difference in the South with regard to the meat. The vast majority of Dixie, upon hearing "barbeque," assumes pork; Texans don t. Rather, they often assume beef brisket. As to the wood used for smoking, there is disagreement, but the differences are found in every town and don t follow regional lines (except that some hardwoods were more available in some places than others in the past; today, you can get anything at a big grocery store). Hickory and mesquite are the most popular; applewood and "hardwood" are still seen here and there. The real disagreement is over whether the variety of wood matters much. There is much less disagreement that wood gives more smoke flavor than charcoal. There can be no disagreement that gas grills don t impart any smoke flavor.

There are more differences with regard to sauces. In Texas, barbequed meat is usually served with sauce on the side if there is any sauce at all. My favorite restaurant in College Station (I can t remember its name) served half a raw onion, a 4-oz. slice of cheddar cheese, a pickle, and 8 ounces of whatever meat you wanted, all on a piece of butcher paper. They gave you a knife (no fork) and a jar of their own barbeque sauce. The meat choices were pork tenderloin; beef that could pass for tenderloin; polish sausage; and I forget what else. Maybe chicken. The sauce I remember: Thick and fresh (hot from the pot, actually), but with very little flavor beyond tomato no pepper heat, no vinegar tang, no sweetness, no real spicy piquancy.

That s probably not typical of Texas barbeque sauces. A list of ingredients from one of the self-proclaimed "best" Texas barbeque sauces begins with "tomato concentrate, distilled vinegar, corn syrup, salt, spices ." That would be typical of barbeque sauces around the country: They ll have a tomato base, vinegar, sweetener, always a little garlic and onion, and some heat. They sometimes have a puckering tang from prepared (powdered) mustard or turmeric; and some have a little citrus flavoring of some sort. Mustard-based sauces show up in some places; they tend to be less sweet than the brownish sauces.

Those are the basic two, with the tomato-based sauce being the most popular. However, eastern North Carolina and Virginia have a tradition of their own: A watery, vinegar-based sauce with no tomato, sugar, or mustard flavor. I ordered a bottle and tasted it, and can report that it is similar to any "Louisiana" hot sauce (the ingredients of which should always be only vinegar, peppers, and salt). The North Carolina sauce added some other spices that gave it an extremely dry, almost bitter flavor, similar to a Thai pepper sauce. The particular one I sampled has won awards in North Carolina, but to me it seemed to be lacking something. The spices made the sauce seem to want for some sweetness, which impression does not accompany the taste of a Louisiana hot sauce.

If you haven t had the chance to sample any local Southern barbeque sauces, despair not: The flavor that best captures the typical sauce can be had for 99 cents just buy a bottle of Kraft barbeque sauce. That isn t shameful Kraft hires food experts to develop sauces for a living, and they measure proportions in parts per million. Kraft, by the way, sells about 50 varieties, and they re all inexpensive and good. Don t spend $4 on a bottle of sauce heck, Kraft makes the more expensive "gourmet" Bullseye sauces. They re not any better than the 99-cent stuff.

Most local Southern sauces taste similar to one Kraft variety or another. At one of the more famous barbeque joints in the Southeast, Dreamland (based in Tuscaloosa, Alabama), the sauce tastes exactly like the regular Kraft with a little sugar and heat added. That the good local sauces and Kraft sauces are similar means only that Southerners and food giants are arriving at a good flavor. And some of Kraft s 50 relatively new varieties probably are themselves imitations of, or inspired by, various local twists on the basic theme.

Indeed, just as government interventions lag behind the market s identification of needs and their solutions (e.g., in the early 20th century, the government decided to write child-labor laws after the economy began to generate enough wealth that children weren t any longer being sent to factories by their parents, and after special-interest groups decided they were outraged by a practice that was already going away), big corporations get "new" food-product ideas from foods people already have. The Oreo probably wasn t even an exception. They won t tell, though; I tried to get information out of Kraft, to no avail.

So, "barbeque," whatever the term means, isn t a Southern invention; surely it s as old as the hills. All we did was perfect it. The reasons why would be pure speculation, but they probably begin with our better climate, our love of hunting and fishing, our greater sociability, our slower-paced life, and our tasty pigs; and end with the only possible result of millions of people enjoying a craft that requires them to do all the work every time: Innovations happen randomly, frequently, sometimes serendipitously, but inexorably.

A note about perfection: Theoretically, there s no such thing. Practically, however, every time you barbeque something well and everybody loves it, it s perfect; and as tastes change over time, recipes and techniques will evolve to accommodate them, and it ll still be perfect.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bbq; dixie; dixielist; mustardsaucesucks; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; south
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To: LasVegasMac; everyone
You've also got a GOOD thermometer on your smoker/grill...that is what so many folks do not have installed, and then wonder why things turn out less than devine.

If anyone is using a cooker with one of those lame, Cold, Warm, Hot type thermometers - please, replace it immediately with a "real" gauge of the heat that is being generated.

You can pick one up at the local hardware store for less than twenty bones...you will want to bbq you ass for not having done it years ago. Promise you.

Cheers all.
101 posted on 05/13/2003 6:29:48 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: billbears; ladyinred
Nothing gets the adrenaline flowing quite like a barbecue thread.

I'd like to say "There's no such thing as bad barbecue". But, unfortunately, that's not true.

Pennsylvania has more than its share of "unfortunately". And New Jersey is a veritable swamp of "unfortunately"...

102 posted on 05/13/2003 6:30:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: kellynla
You stand corrected! Ain't is a word. But of course, we all know it's not good grammar. And two negatives make a positive

Well if that ain't a load of crap! :)

I'm sure glad my boy ain't reading this!

Would you be so kind and FReep mail me the plans you have for the 55 gal drum?

I seem to have some extra space on the patio that is begging for another smoker / grill.

Thanks.

LVM

103 posted on 05/13/2003 6:31:22 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: Iwo Jima
With all due respect to your screen name...nooooo we're not going to say a word about Brunswick stew???? cause you just did...LOL...This about the southern barbecue my friend...Semper Fi
104 posted on 05/13/2003 6:32:28 PM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: LasVegasMac
I wonder how many folks now what that is?

They don't know what they're missing.

105 posted on 05/13/2003 6:34:35 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: okie01
I am LMAO at this. You go from where folks know how to cook ribs, you're there a while and want a taste of home in a fine seafood place...

You have to admit it's truly funny.

(I say this only because I've done the very same thing.)

Now, I'm a when in Rome type of guy.

Cheers.
106 posted on 05/13/2003 6:34:46 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: LasVegasMac
Be glad to mail the instructions...can you read Southern? J/K ...give me a minute to type em up...say by the way you know there is a Memphis style barbecue restaurant outside of Vegas called "Memphis" I believe...not bad barbecue but it "ain't" Memphis...had to put ain't in again just for you LOL ...owned by a couple of Chicago boys believe it not...LOL
107 posted on 05/13/2003 6:43:44 PM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: bayou_billy
"Here in Pa they have no idea what BBQ is,"

I have lived here all my life and couldn't agree with you more. Over the years driving back and fourth from the south I have stopped many places and every one of them was better than what they have in PA.

I found the best one at Army summer camp, on a week-end in a little town of Crew Virginia at a church.

I don't even go near these vein red chicken bbq fiascos at the fire depts.

108 posted on 05/13/2003 6:43:51 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: billbears
You can call it whatever you want, but it ain't BBQ if if ain't pork..

You poor lost soul.

Standing invite to you - if you ever make it to Las Vegas, let me know in advance - and I'll BBQ a beef brisket that you AIN'T gonna believe.

Just for grins, I'll do a butt, too - for comparison purposes only, of course.

How about "gonna", is that legal now, too?

LVM

109 posted on 05/13/2003 6:46:03 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: kellynla
Hogwash my friend, pure hogwash! :-)
110 posted on 05/13/2003 6:46:23 PM PDT by asneditor (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away)
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To: aomagrat
I have to agree with you on one point, Shealy's BBQ in Leesville SC is one of the best BBQ houses I've ever experienced. I try to go there whenever I am in SC and have some time.

I've learned a lot of bbq techniques over the years from living in and visiting different places. When I lived in Saluda my family and neighbors would get together every July and bbq three or four pigs over large pits. We would cover the pits with cardboard to keep the smoke in and all the men folk would stay up all night cooking the pigs and a couple big pots of hash. In the morning the women would come out and cut up the meat. Sometimes we would go out during the night and kill a rabbit or two to throw on the fire for breakfast. I really miss those times!

One of the cattlemen in Saluda used to have a yearly bbq where we cooked beef bbq, steaks, pork bbq, chicken, lamb, and goat. There would be hundreds of people having a great time all day long.

I prefer the Maurice Bessenger's Piggie Park BBQ for chicken. I cut the chicken into halves and cook it slowly while continuously coating it with Carolina Gold. Piggie Park Sauce is available here: http://www.mauricesbbq.com/a_word_from_maurice.htm

I learned to cook one of my favorite styles of BBQ from my family member in the low country around Myrtle Beach and Hemingway. They cook port bbq so hot that rarely taste the meat. I only get to enjoy it once in a while because my family can't handle it!

For ribs I use North Carlina Bone Sucking Sauce. This stuff is amazing. The first time I used my kids where toddlers so I just cooked a couple racks for my wife and myself and made the kids some hamburgers. The kids got into the ribs and when they were done there was nothing but the bones left and they had sauce all over their faces, in their hair, etc. You can order Bone Suckin' sause here: http://www.bonesuckin.com/.

The good folks in Texas taught me to cook brisket slow in the smoker, but I prefer their skirt steak smoked with chili powder and spices. This is great cut into strips and eaten on fajitas.

A friend from Boston taught me how to grill seafood. It really tastes great on a grill. Lobster tails, shrimp cabobs, and fish are great with a little smoke flavor.

I live in the suburbs in Raleigh now. There are no community bbq's and the only time I see the neighbors is if they peek over the fence to see what I am cooking or need to borrow some tools. I sure do miss living the good life out in the country! BBQ's are a southern tradition that are part of a better way of life than most people now know!

111 posted on 05/13/2003 6:47:33 PM PDT by USP45
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To: husky ed
So what's the 100' tape measure for? Your wife is not the only one guessing.
112 posted on 05/13/2003 6:48:08 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Non-Sequitur; kellynla; groanup
The best barbecue in the world is found in Kansas City,

YGTBSM!

Be on 'de riva' come Friday night. Food of the Gods will grace the tables. Ribs, shoulder an' whole hog. Anybody that thinks Bar-B-Q is other than pork or other than Southern will be converted and saved. Praise the Lord, where do I start!

113 posted on 05/13/2003 6:48:52 PM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: Conservababe
I've made my own, but it's not as good as Kraft makes.
114 posted on 05/13/2003 6:49:30 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: okie01
. And New Jersey is a veritable swamp of "unfortunately"...

I take exception to that remark. I live at the Jersey Shore..and can cook a mean pulled clam.

115 posted on 05/13/2003 6:54:53 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I'm changing my tag line....somebody hand that wench....no...the blonde.)
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To: kellynla
First, burn out the insides to remove any oil or chemical odors.
Cut out the top of the drum using a chisel or cutting torch. Reduce
the diameter of the top by about 3 inches, suspending this top from
3 brackets one foot from the top to serve as a heat baffle.

Next, cut out a section at the bottom of the drum for a fire door,
approximately 8" x 10". Make a tray for holding the barbecue from
heavy 1/2" or 1/4" wire mesh. Suspend this tray from metal straps
so it hangs 6 inches from the top of the drum- A wood, metal or even
burlap cover may be used to control the flow of the smoke through
the drum. Knock out both ends, set over a hole in the ground
with a flue (stovepipe will do nicely) connecting the barrel to the
fire pit. Build this set-up on a slight incline, because both smoke
and heat rise. Keep the fire smouldering so it generates smoke
rather than flames. The burlap (or a harder) cover should be ad-
justed so that just enough air gets through to keep the fire smoulderingWhatever kind of smoker you use, it is essential that the unit
have vents with dampers to insure the proper circulation of smoke
and fresh air. It must also have racks, trays or hooks for holding the barbecue in such a way that the smoke and heat will contact all surfaces
Oak, maple, hickory, alder, beech and white birch produce
good smoke. Hardwood chips and sawdust, usually from the above
species, are often used because they are easier to handle, smoulder-
ing much slower and producing a thick, rich smoke
116 posted on 05/13/2003 6:56:54 PM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: ladyinred
We BBQ a lot here in California...

Swordfish steaks over mesquite doesn't count.

117 posted on 05/13/2003 6:58:44 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: lodwick
"You go from where folks know how to cook ribs, you're there a while and want a taste of home in a fine seafood place...

"You have to admit it's truly funny."

In the end, the joke was on me. That's for sure.

But, at the time, I'd been in Florida for two weeks -- and was tired of seafood.

Shouldda gone to Taco Bell...

118 posted on 05/13/2003 7:00:33 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Here is a great quickie for so called BBQ shrimp.

Put some V8 Juice in a pan,
cook on medium high until reduced by half,
add uncooked shrimp and cook until their almost done
Add desired amount of Tobasco 3 minutes before shrimp are done.

Shrimp turns out juicy and tasty. Great to take to tailgait parties.

119 posted on 05/13/2003 7:00:53 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Barbecued steamed clams.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

Actually, smoked clams are pretty damn good.

120 posted on 05/13/2003 7:03:03 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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