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Russia funding resurgent Taliban
The Scotsman ^ | Sun 11 May 2003 | Ian Mather

Posted on 05/10/2003 6:57:56 PM PDT by IoCaster

Sun 11 May 2003

Russia funding resurgent Taliban

Ian Mather

RUSSIA is funding the Taliban's guerrilla war against the American-backed government of Afghanistan, leaders of the fundamentalist group have claimed.

In a move that carries echoes of attempts by the United States to undermine Soviet forces during their occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, Russian intelligence is now providing covert backing to a resurgent Taliban, senior figures in the extreme Islamic movement have alleged.

The alarming claim will prove acutely embarrassing to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who has been trying to rebuild relations with the US in the wake of the acrimonious split between the two countries over Iraq.

Engineer Hamidullah, the Taliban's former deputy chief of finance, says the Taliban now receive as much funding as they did when Osama bin Laden bank-rolled them before September 11.

"There are some countries that are against the policies of the US and the United Nations, and they support the guerrillas. The most important role belongs to Russia, Iran and Pakistan," he said.

In the 1980s, the CIA's funding of the Afghan Mujahedin on a massive scale wore down the Russians and eventually forced them to leave. The backing, both financial and military, was never admitted by the US.

According to Taliban sources in neighbouring Pakistan and Afghan intelligence sources, the group has a new hierarchy of leaders orchestrating opposition to the US-sponsored Afghan government of Hamed Karzai from Afghanistan and Pashtun tribal areas of north-west Pakistan.

Meanwhile, the Taliban has been mounting increasingly brazen attacks in Afghanistan. Last month its forces seized two remote districts near the Pakistan border and held them for nearly a week.

New-found confidence among the Taliban has led some of its leaders to speak publicly for the first time since the launch of the US-led Operation Enduring Freedom 18 months ago.

Abdul Salam - the former chief justice of the Taliban's Supreme Court - last week told the Christian Science Monitor newspaper that the Afghan people now want the Taliban back "because during the Taliban times, there was peace and security".

'The most important role belongs to Russia, Iran and Pakistan'

He was contemptuous of Karzai. Referring to the national council (loya jerga) that chose him, he pointed a finger to his head like a gun and said: "The last loya jirga was done by force. But if there was a real loya jirga, and the people who were appointed were good, then I would work with my head and feet and heart for my country."

Salam, who achieved notoriety in the days of Taliban rule by claiming that Afghanistan had the right to execute foreign aid workers who were trying to convert Afghans to Christianity, lives in his native Logar Province, near Kabul. He refuses to talk about his activities in the Taliban today, but admits that he maintains contact with the movement.

Commenting on the alleged backing of Russia, Pakistan and Iran, he said: "The Russians are not happy with the US presence here, and neither are Iran, Pakistan and even China."

Salam's interview followed a public claim by another Taliban leader, Mullah Dadullah, that the Taliban had regrouped under the leadership of Mullah Omar, their one-eyed spiritual leader, who is still being hunted by the Americans. Dadullah claimed personal credit for a number of the recent Taliban attacks on coalition forces, and said that the Taliban would fight until "Jews and Christians, all foreign crusaders" were expelled from Afghanistan.

He added that the Taliban were also receiving money from the Afghan people.

A third senior Taliban leader, Mullah Mohammed Hasan Rehmani, former governor of Kandahar, has also re-emerged to renew calls for a "holy war" against the Americans and their allies.

Speaking to a journalist over a satellite phone, something no Taliban leader would have dared to do previously for fear of being tracked by American satellites, he described Karzai as "an American clerk and a toy in the hands of the Northern Alliance", which dominates the present Afghan government.

Despite the massive technological superiority of their forces in Afghanistan and the millions of dollars offered as rewards, the Americans have not managed to catch or kill any of the Taliban's top leadership.

The fact that many of the names in the new leadership structure are well known from the former regime undermines last week's announcement by US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld that major combat operations in Afghanistan are at an end.

Barnett Rubin, an expert on Afghanistan at New York University, said:

"They [the Taliban] are now organising for a new offensive and they are still getting some support from Pakistan. Even if Pakistan is not cooperating directly, it is not cooperating in efforts to end the support that is coming from Pakistani territory."

Shahzada Zulfikar, a Quetta-based political analyst, said Taliban commanders continue to receive support from Pakistan's powerful and secretive intelligence agencies, as they did openly during the time of the Taliban government.

"Pakistan ditched the Taliban due to American pressure, for a while, but now there are fears that their relationship might be restored."

While Pakistan still provides a safe haven for the anti-government Afghan fighters as it did when the Mujahedin were fighting the Russians, there is now a new twist to the Great Game. The Russians, it appears, are on the same side, not on the receiving end.

No one was available for comment at the Russian embassy in London last night.

CHAIN OF COMMAND

AT THE top of the Taliban's new military command structure is Mullah Beradar, a native of the home village of the infamous Mullah Omar.

Beradar has been hunted relentlessly by the Americans, and at various times has been reported injured or dead.

Under Mullah Beradar are Taliban commanders and religious leaders assigned to different territories. The most active region, from Nimroz Province to Helmand, Kandahar, Zabul, and north to Urozgan, is under the joint control of Beradar's top three deputies.

The first, Akhtar Usmani, former Taliban corps commander in Kandahar, is also a close companion of Omar. Both men taught in the same madrassa (religious school). Omar is said to have named Usmani as his successor in case of his death after he went into hiding from the Americans in November 2001.

Second is Mullah Abdur Razzaq, a founding member of the Taliban, who rose to head of the customs department and then interior minister.

According to Ahmed Rashid's book Taliban: Islam, Oil and the New Great Game in Central Asia, Razzaq admitted having given the order to kill General Mohammed Najibullah, the pro-Soviet president, who was executed when the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996.

The third man, Mullah Dadullah, was military chief in Kunduz on the front lines against the Northern Alliance, and negotiated its surrender. In his former role he notoriously presided over public hangings from cranes.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; michaeldobbs; pakistan; russia; southasialist; taliban; talibanlist
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Seems a bit far-fetched, but interesting.
1 posted on 05/10/2003 6:57:57 PM PDT by IoCaster
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Yeah I don't understand that logic they fighting Chechen rebels they are funding Al Quada network WHY

Doesn't make sense
2 posted on 05/10/2003 7:01:16 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: *southasia_list; *taliban_list
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3 posted on 05/10/2003 7:14:48 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: SevenofNine
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This would be a huge deal. Wonder what the credibility of this paper is.
4 posted on 05/10/2003 7:25:02 PM PDT by rvoitier (There's too many ALs in this world: Al Qaeda Al Jezeera Al Gore Al Sharpton Al Franken)
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To: SevenofNine
Yeah I don't understand that logic they fighting Chechen rebels they are funding Al Quada network WHY

Doesn't make sense

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Is it just me? Or, is Putin turning out to be a major-league creep?
5 posted on 05/10/2003 7:25:45 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: IoCaster
The third man, Mullah Dadullah, was military chief in Kunduz on the front lines against the Northern Alliance, and negotiated its surrender. In his former role he notoriously presided over public hangings from cranes.

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Mullah Dadullah. You sure this isn't a rap singer?
6 posted on 05/10/2003 7:26:57 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: IoCaster
Quote:

"In the 1980s, the CIA's funding of the Afghan Mujahedin on a massive scale wore down the Russians and eventually forced them to leave. The backing, both financial and military, was never admitted by the US."

I don't know about the validity of this story either, since this has been admitted, frequently. Heck, Zbigniew Brzenzki (former NSA chief) even went as far to say that this plan (to fund the Mujahaden) was designed to draw the Soviet's into the conflict.
7 posted on 05/10/2003 7:30:08 PM PDT by cwb
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To: SevenofNine
"understand that logic they fighting Chechen"


While the Soviet Union is no longer, the same urge and desire to be "ranked" over the US still exists.

Think about it like this two brothers, the younger, has better land, crops, growing seasons and can be called a "blessed nation" the older brother's land is vast yet limited in growing seasons, has vast resources but almost impossible to get to, takes the path of communism where some, only the ones at the top control all.

The older brother sells a vast piece of his land to the younger for a pence and lives to regret that quick buck.
The only way the older brother can compete with the younger is by total control and expansion of that system of government with the bloodiest history of any on earth.

The older brother wants his status and whatever he must do to gain that status will and has done.

Most effective method of harming the younger brother has been using other peoples of the world against the younger brother.

The list is long and while there is no verification of the funds going to the Taliban, could be that poppy crop we keep hearing about that is bought sold or traded, who knows.

Russia is not happy with us over Iraq and she is making wheat deals with Egypt, planning war games with India, selling nuclear to Iran are the most recent reported money makers they are involved in. Syria wants the same deal with Russia on nuclear that Iran got and who knows who else is wheeling and dealing with them behind the curtain.

Russia need cold hard cash and they have a long history of selling whatever they can to make a buck, their goal is to be number 1, remember the Russian/communistic athletes.



8 posted on 05/10/2003 7:50:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: BenR2
Yeah I don't understand that logic they fighting Chechen rebels they are funding Al Quada network WHY ++

Exactly it is no sense in it. Some mullah tells some reporter just outragious things and that repoter glad to dissiminate that stupidity for sensation.
The source of that stupidity tells me that is kind of provocation.
I'm interested who is beneficiary of that?
9 posted on 05/10/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by RusIvan
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10 posted on 05/10/2003 8:04:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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Hmmmnnn, hey Puty, how is that Chechnya gig going? What is good for the gander is good for the goose, play around, lay around. I don't think the Rooskies want to go there.
11 posted on 05/10/2003 8:08:01 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: BenR2
Is it just me? Or, is Putin turning out to be a major-league creep?

Dont forget, this guy was career KGB. He always was creepy. That organization is not known for its cheeriness, the same with Putin's country for that matter.

12 posted on 05/10/2003 8:08:30 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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Hmm...I guess we could round up all of the Islamokazi fanatics we've been collecting at Gitmo and elsewhere and dump them at the Chechen border. They can join their buddies in Grozny for some Jihad.
13 posted on 05/10/2003 8:24:33 PM PDT by IoCaster
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To: Cindy; All
CHAIN OF COMMAND


"AT THE top of the Taliban's new military command structure is Mullah Beradar, a native of the home village of the infamous Mullah Omar.


Beradar has been hunted relentlessly by the Americans, and at various times has been reported injured or dead.


Under Mullah Beradar are Taliban commanders and religious leaders assigned to different territories. The most active region, from Nimroz Province to Helmand, Kandahar, Zabul, and north to Urozgan, is under the joint control of Beradar's top three deputies.


The first, Akhtar Usmani, former Taliban corps commander in Kandahar, is also a close companion of Omar. Both men taught in the same madrassa (religious school). Omar is said to have named Usmani as his successor in case of his death after he went into hiding from the Americans in November 2001.


Second is Mullah Abdur Razzaq, a founding member of the Taliban, who rose to head of the customs department and then interior minister.


According to Ahmed Rashid's book Taliban: Islam, Oil and the New Great Game in Central Asia, Razzaq admitted having given the order to kill General Mohammed Najibullah, the pro-Soviet president, who was executed when the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996.


The third man, Mullah Dadullah, was military chief in Kunduz on the front lines against the Northern Alliance, and negotiated its surrender. In his former role he notoriously presided over public hangings from cranes."


GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Beradar"
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GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Akhtar Usmani"
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GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Abdur Razzaq"
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GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Dadullah"
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14 posted on 05/10/2003 8:30:03 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: BenR2
So the word of the Taliban is good enough for you?
15 posted on 05/10/2003 8:36:30 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Given the Russian's track record in Iraq recently, this report doesn't surprise me in the least. Why does it you? I think that the level of funding being provided by China is similar, but sent through third parties to keep it discreet.
16 posted on 05/10/2003 8:59:55 PM PDT by 11B3 (Happiness IS a warm gun. After a long day's use on the liberal masses.)
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To: 11B3
China declares war on the Talibamn

The FEER reported in 2001 that China had warned the Taliban to stop its trainning of 1000s of anti-China ultra-Islamic terrorists belonging to the Xinjiang Separatists Uihurs "East Turkestan" Party. These Islamic terrorists had carried terrorist attacks in China killing 100s of civilians including 100s of Chinese schoolchildren in schoo;-buses bombings

China would live to hang these Talibans in the highest flagpoles by their turban cloths
17 posted on 05/10/2003 9:09:30 PM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: 11B3
Russia supported the Northern Alliance of Afghanistan, against the Taliban in the US war/attack on Afghanistan.

Russia ordered the Northern AllianceForces to enter Kabul, in spite of US requests not to do so

The Northern Alliances forces slaughtered i lot of Taliban and raped a lot of Taliban women in Kabul
18 posted on 05/10/2003 9:24:59 PM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: Just mythoughts
"The older brother sells a vast piece of his land to the younger for a pence and lives to regret that quick buck. "

So, I guess it was the Louisiana Purchase for 15 million that keeps the French pissed?

19 posted on 05/10/2003 9:31:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: BenR2
Is it just me? Or, is Putin turning out to be a major-league creep?

Putin was a high ranking official in the former Soviet Government, an anti American, Communist. Why would we believe that he woke up one morning, and decided he wasn't a Communist any more, and wanted to be our friend?

20 posted on 05/10/2003 9:41:57 PM PDT by c-b 1
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