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Seems a bit far-fetched, but interesting.
1 posted on 05/10/2003 6:57:57 PM PDT by IoCaster
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To: IoCaster
Yeah I don't understand that logic they fighting Chechen rebels they are funding Al Quada network WHY

Doesn't make sense
2 posted on 05/10/2003 7:01:16 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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3 posted on 05/10/2003 7:14:48 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: IoCaster
The third man, Mullah Dadullah, was military chief in Kunduz on the front lines against the Northern Alliance, and negotiated its surrender. In his former role he notoriously presided over public hangings from cranes.

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Mullah Dadullah. You sure this isn't a rap singer?
6 posted on 05/10/2003 7:26:57 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: IoCaster
Quote:

"In the 1980s, the CIA's funding of the Afghan Mujahedin on a massive scale wore down the Russians and eventually forced them to leave. The backing, both financial and military, was never admitted by the US."

I don't know about the validity of this story either, since this has been admitted, frequently. Heck, Zbigniew Brzenzki (former NSA chief) even went as far to say that this plan (to fund the Mujahaden) was designed to draw the Soviet's into the conflict.
7 posted on 05/10/2003 7:30:08 PM PDT by cwb
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To: All; backhoe; HAL9000; Alamo-Girl; piasa; kattracks; JohnHuang2; JohnathanRGalt
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10 posted on 05/10/2003 8:04:16 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: IoCaster
Hmmmnnn, hey Puty, how is that Chechnya gig going? What is good for the gander is good for the goose, play around, lay around. I don't think the Rooskies want to go there.
11 posted on 05/10/2003 8:08:01 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Cindy; All
CHAIN OF COMMAND


"AT THE top of the Taliban's new military command structure is Mullah Beradar, a native of the home village of the infamous Mullah Omar.


Beradar has been hunted relentlessly by the Americans, and at various times has been reported injured or dead.


Under Mullah Beradar are Taliban commanders and religious leaders assigned to different territories. The most active region, from Nimroz Province to Helmand, Kandahar, Zabul, and north to Urozgan, is under the joint control of Beradar's top three deputies.


The first, Akhtar Usmani, former Taliban corps commander in Kandahar, is also a close companion of Omar. Both men taught in the same madrassa (religious school). Omar is said to have named Usmani as his successor in case of his death after he went into hiding from the Americans in November 2001.


Second is Mullah Abdur Razzaq, a founding member of the Taliban, who rose to head of the customs department and then interior minister.


According to Ahmed Rashid's book Taliban: Islam, Oil and the New Great Game in Central Asia, Razzaq admitted having given the order to kill General Mohammed Najibullah, the pro-Soviet president, who was executed when the Taliban captured Kabul in 1996.


The third man, Mullah Dadullah, was military chief in Kunduz on the front lines against the Northern Alliance, and negotiated its surrender. In his former role he notoriously presided over public hangings from cranes."


GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Beradar"
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GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Akhtar Usmani"
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GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Abdur Razzaq"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mullah+Abdur+Razzaq%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0

GOOGLE Search Term: "Mullah Dadullah"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mullah+Dadullah%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&filter=0
14 posted on 05/10/2003 8:30:03 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: IoCaster
If this is true, it proves the Russians just never ever learn.
28 posted on 05/11/2003 12:11:41 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: IoCaster
If true, where do I send my check to the Chechens?
33 posted on 05/11/2003 7:26:02 AM PDT by Beck_isright (FOR SALE: Hardly used French weaponry. Contact Baghdad Bob's Clearance Warehouse.)
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To: IoCaster
Why would Russia do this? Russia has very good ties with the Afghan Vice-President/Defense Minister who is head of N. Alliance. Taliban regularly sent jihaders into central asia, where Russian troops died fighting them and stopping jihad. Why would Russia back regime it wanted to bomb in '2000 (but US stopped Russia through UN....how interesting). US was the one giving money to Taliban, even Bush gave them $48 million, just months before attack. This is rediculous propaganda from jihadist country with state press, terrorists and nuclear weapons.
43 posted on 05/12/2003 7:21:42 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: belmont_mark
PING!
44 posted on 05/26/2003 10:17:56 PM PDT by Orion78
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To: IoCaster

bttt


45 posted on 08/11/2004 3:01:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Nemo Me Impune Lacessit)
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