Secrets Of A Stone Age Rambo (Otzi, The Iceman)

The Observer (UK) ^ | 5-4-2003 | Robim Mckie

[Just mythoughts]

I can't wait for a DNA linkage to modern children if he had any.

Imagine world wide search for possible children.

[blam]

"I can't wait for a DNA linkage to modern children if he had any. Imagine world wide search for possible children."

I agree, that will be amazing. Geneology will go through a revolution in the next 10-20 years. DNA testing prices will come way down and you and I can go looking for ancient relatives. I'm English and the first DNA I will compare is mine and Cheddar Man's.(9,000 years old)

[djf]

I'm probably related to limburger-cheese man

[Just mythoughts]

Interesting point wasn't thinking about myself.

[LibWhacker]

I don't really know anything about genetics, DNA, etc., so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that scientists can only trace the mitochondrial DNA of these ancient remains, i.e., the DNA that comes down from females in the family line? Therefore, isn't it true that if the remains are those of a male, his mitochondrial DNA (the hardiest DNA) would not have been passed down. Only the female's mitochondrial DNA would have survived. So we'll never be able to establish a familial link to a male mummy, right? Or wrong?

[djf]

True, in a sense. Mitochondria come from the egg, and they have their own DNA, all the mito that you and any of your sibling have came from your mother. And unless a mutation has occurred in you or your siblings, it is the same. But still, a match would mean he was a cousin or an uncle, that sort of thing.

[Calamari]

Too far from Sicily!

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[tubebender]

Then there was his clothing: leggings, loincloth and jacket made of deer and goat hide; a cape made of grass and the bark of the linden tree; a hat of bearskin; shoes insulated with grass, with bearskin soles and goatskin uppers. He was protected against Alpine weather.

Otzi was a regular Daniel Boone on Pastanoids.

The Indians of the North West used Yew wood for their bows. I have been told they would cut the saplings and bury them for a year to age the wood before making the bow.

[LocalYokel]

Regarding the Ice Man’s current relatives, they’ve already been located in England. In the book The Seven Daughters of Eve by Bryan Sykes he documents the analysis of the mitochondral DNA from populations all across Europe and traces them to seven different women from different time periods. The Ice Man was discovered as he was finalizing his research and he realized he might have the match for a living descendant in his data. He searched and found a match in a young schoolboy in rural England.

"Sykes begins with the story of how he was able to identify a living descendant of the five-thousand year old "ice man" found in northern Italy in 1994 by comparing mitochondrial DNA sequences. Mitochondrial DNA is contained only in egg cells (thus, "Eve" and her daughters), not in sperm cells, and transmitted without recombination so that the changes are all the result of mutations that occur at a predictable rate over time."

It's a great book.

[Sacajaweau]

It looks like a tooth, a molar..

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