The Antiwar Movement's Nazi Connection

Front Page Magazine ^ | 4/25/2003 | Ben Johnson

[JohnGalt]

http://100777.com/nwo/104a.htm


Typical Horowitz style hit piece.

Why doesn't he write an article linking Republicans stand against Affirmative Action and the white supremacists?

[Catspaw]

Thanks for posting this well-documented expose of the connections between neo-Nazis, Islamists and the anti-war movement.

[Uncle Miltie]

"Why doesn't he write an article linking Republicans stand against Affirmative Action and the white supremacists?"

A: Because it doesn't exist.

His article primarily points out that among the malefactors of the anti-war movement, anti-Semites should be added to the list. "No War for Israel" sort of tips their hand. The rest is documentation.

[arthurus]

Typical Horowitz

Hardly. Horowitz makes all his connections and is more sparing in his use of adjectives. BJ says "Nazi" but doesn't show it. The only actual connection he takes beyond assertion is David Duke. He dsoesn't even show that the guy is having any effect on the lefty orgs, just says he is trying. Horowitz is much more meticulous and doesn't use adjectives to substitute for sources. BJ argues in the mode of a leftist ranter, no facts and a lot of volume and frothing.

[HighRoadToChina]

BUMP!

[Constantine XIII]

?!

Uh, what exactly did he say that was wrong? o_O

[Pyro7480]

Don't mind JohnGalt. If things were his way, the word "neconservative" would have the same usage as "racist" and "homophobe" have on the Left, and I'm not even a neoconservative!

[Desecrated]

Pay no attention to him. He is just one of the few who aren't influenced by the worldwide Jewish conspiracy. His tin-foil becomes skewed sometimes.

[AppyPappy]

I thought you had his pod.

[=Intervention=]

I'm assuming you are being sarcastic.

[demosthenes the elder]

I am not at all surprised by a link between neofascists and islamicists - that islamicists idolize the nazis is made abundantly clear from their own statements to that effect.
Since the "antiwar" "movement" is deeply penetrated by the islamicists, there is thus no reason to be shocked that the neofascists would also be represented there.

[Desecrated]

Yes and no. From his posts I gather that he believes the war in Iraq was unjustified, Israel is pulling the levers behind the scenes in the US goverment and the ideal life would be the glory days of pre-20th century isolationism, free from "foreign entanglements." Don't know if that is a paleo-con or what, but it's near tin foil land in my view.

[=Intervention=]

Then doubtless Benjamin Franklin, Washington, Patrick Henry, and so forth were tin-foil wearers. I can't say I agree.

The war upon Iraq was justified primarily for reasons of national security. Other rationales are also useful here, but the U.S doesn't have an infinite supply of money, men, or will, so the other reasons (free state, ending tyranny, stopping abuses of human rights) are supports rather than prime motivators.

[JohnGalt]

You are making a charge that I believe "Israel is pulling the levers behind the scenes in the US goverment"; can you back this charge up?

[JohnGalt]

Point well taken.

[Desecrated]

Well, when I see those men in the White House, perhaps it will mark a return to their policies and ideas. Until that time, the US will most likely remain intertwined in global affairs. I think you missed the point that Franklin et al would not necessarily be tin foil wearers, but that the nature and relative size of the world TODAY precludes isolationism as an effective or even realistic policy.

[Desecrated]

Nah, I'll just take my "Marxism" and "Wilsonian liberal" ideals elsewhere.

[piasa]

These groups aren't just "antiwar," ... many are on the enemy's side, as proterrorists as any guy born in the Gaza strip or Yemen. In the week s before 9/11/01, this site was pelted by post after post of pro-palestinian and stormfront-style Aryan nations BS, as well as Jews-killed-Jesus web sites, along with the more expected Arab hate-America, hate Israel garbage and the usual leftist stuff... then, just a few days before 911, it stopped...

These groups didn't start their propaganda blitz simultaneously by coincidence.

Group-rights ideology lies at the core of the New Black Panthers, the KKK, Aryan nations, Hamas, and assorted lefty nutjob groups out there ... all of these groups rely on group identity to make themselves feel powerful, and to them, individual liberty is a threat as it allows people to choose to join groups or not join groups even if a group wants to assert its perceived "authority" over people it believes should belong to their group. Memebers of white supremacist groups - or black supremacist groups for that matter- are not content just to keep to themselves. They feel a need to force other white or blacks respectively to conform to their group ideology. Thus a white supremacist will persecute and harass whites who date nonwhites, and black racist groups will likewise persecute and harass blacks who date nonblacks. Both groups see intermarriage as a threat to the purity of their group. Thus black racists and white racists have far more in common than people think.

Palestinians terrorists behave the same way- they are driven to add members to their group and prevent members from leaving their group or adopting other identities, in order to appear strong by swelling their numbers and intimidating others so that none may dissent. Since Palestinian leaders are not so much racially or religiously driven as they are political, they have been able to assemble a larger base than black and white racists have been able to do. But while composed of many nationalities with little concern for racial makeup, the palestinians still retain an intimidating group rights mindset.

Islamicists are similar; they see people of other religions as threats to their group, because such people may draw off muslims from the group and convert them. Thus is believed to reduce the unity of the group, weakening it, and directly impact the Islamicists' goal to dominate the world both religiously and politically.

All of these groups fear individual choice...

So it is no wonder when they see a common threat to group rights ideology- and America is a threat to it - that they would put aside their other differences to preserve their groups.

[Poohbah]

What's the relevance of an article about Jonathan Pollard--who is rightfully incarcerated--to this topic?