The Antiwar Movement's Nazi Connection

Front Page Magazine ^ | 4/25/2003 | Ben Johnson

[thetruckster]

What a stretch!

[Poohbah]

How is it a stretch?

There's a wide spectrum of opposition to the present war, all of it equally disreputable.

[Hoppean]

Breeding may also be motivated by the power of pure evil. Incredible as it may seem, all the aforementioned problems do not represent the full extent of Vincent Breeding’s pathologies: He’s also a Satanist.

Satanism? Isn't this becoming just a bit hysterical? Besides, from what I've heard, those who self-idenitfy as "Satanists" are basically atheists who don't really believe in an actual Satan, but just see it as a symbol for rebellion. They also tend to reject race-centered ideologies, since they're "radical individualists." Also, word has it that the head of the Church of Satan, Anton LaVey, was Jewish, so a lot of things just don't add up here.

[ellery]

bttt

[Poohbah]

Satanism? Isn't this becoming just a bit hysterical?

How so?

Besides, from what I've heard, those who self-idenitfy as "Satanists" are basically atheists who don't really believe in an actual Satan, but just see it as a symbol for rebellion.

You've heard wrong.

They also tend to reject race-centered ideologies, since they're "radical individualists."

Actually, Satanists, from my experience, tend to be BIG racialists as well.

[Cachelot]

Typical Horowitz style hit piece.

And if you're a reader of that premier "Libertarian" septictank, LibertyForum, you know that every word is true.

Do you feel hit?

[thetruckster]

It is a little too much spin for me. Antiwar protesting comes in degrees, and the worst I've seen is really stupid, self-defeating civil disobedience, vandalism, and disrespect for the current men in power. However, I see no connection with ethnic cleansing tactics. The arrogance of the EXTREME left and EXTREME right could possibly be connected to supremicist thinking, but that extremism is applied to far more than antiwar protests. And this particular EXTREME stretch is laughable (IMHO).

[Hoppean]

Actually, Satanists, from my experience, tend to be BIG racialists as well.

I guess Odin and the other Norse gods aren't the preferred racialist deities anymore. I wonder what sparked that decision.

[Poohbah]

I guess Odin and the other Norse gods aren't the preferred racialist deities anymore.

Logical disconnect here: worship of the Nordic pantheon among SOME racialists does not exclude the worship of Satan among OTHER racialists.

[JohnGalt]

That link is to Fox News reports about Israeli and 9/11. The implication of the piece, as I read it, is that Raimondo was the source of these stories but his particular 'piece' was really just links to other stories on the subject, including and namely Fox News.

I was using it as an example of the writers attack style.

What is really funny, is that George Bush and Paul Weyrich got in trouble in 1988 for employing real Nazi's (well, Easter European fascists the media thinks they are all Nazis) but now guilt by association is made simply by what websites you link to, and the kool aid drinkers slurp it right up.

[JohnGalt]

Much appreciated.

[Desecrated]

"Besides, from what I've heard, those who self-idenitfy as "Satanists" are basically atheists who don't really believe in an actual Satan, but just see it as a symbol for rebellion."

This is true, if he is talking about the LeVey-based Church of Satan.

[Poohbah]

I've actually met real, no-s**t Satanists from the Church of Satan.

Some folks may not drink the Kool-Aid, but a lot do.

[gcruse]

atheists who don't really believe in an actual Satan,

Any atheist who does isn't.

[Katya]

"Satanism? Isn't this becoming just a bit hysterical? Besides, from what I've heard, those who self-idenitfy as "Satanists" are basically atheists who don't really believe in an actual Satan, but just see it as a symbol for rebellion. "

Many lump Occult sciences in with Satanic belief. In that sense, a Gnostic practising an esoteric branch of Christology might be lumped in with the others. Even the traditionalist belief systems, which have definitely attracted the neo-nazi's since first reading about the Thule Society, should not be confused with Satanists.

Semantics are so easily manipulated, perhaps why the left continually lumps Neo-nazi white nationalists in with the right wing. I wish they'd actually bother to read most of the anti-capitilist screed the neo-nazi's espouse before they put their critical thinking abilities on hold.