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Memo to Al Gore and the Green Party
1 posted on 04/06/2003 11:04:52 AM PDT by Francohio
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2 posted on 04/06/2003 11:08:43 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Am I mistaken in recalling that the Vikings settled Greenland when it was relatively "green", and disappeared after the "little ice age" set in, due apparently to isolation, disease, and possibly eskimo attack?
3 posted on 04/06/2003 11:10:37 AM PDT by marron
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4 posted on 04/06/2003 11:11:51 AM PDT by RippleFire
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Interesting article. I'm under the impression that the information is more or less common knowledge, but I guess that doesn't stop the global warming grant seekers.
8 posted on 04/06/2003 11:32:18 AM PDT by Sam Cree (liberals are the axis of evil)
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A professor of mine summed up the greenies position as someone that's never been the beech taking tide measures every hour in the morning, and predicting that in two weeks the world will be underwater. When you're dealing with data from the last 100 years of the earth's billion year life span you shouldn't go out making predictions.
9 posted on 04/06/2003 11:51:34 AM PDT by lelio
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Global Warming is the biggest crock prepetuated on the World! And we can thank dear old Maggie Thatcher for it!
10 posted on 04/06/2003 11:53:48 AM PDT by Bommer (Tom Dasshole is a Domestic Enemy!!!)
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To: blam
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11 posted on 04/06/2003 11:56:46 AM PDT by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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"...today's "unprecedented" temperatures are simply the result of examining temperature change over too short a period of time."

This is the point I've been trying to make about this for a while, myself. I mean, tree-rings and all are very nice, but how many 500 year old trees are there, in Europe, especially. And you have to cut the tree down to study its rings, no? I mean, really, when was the thermometer invented, anyway? When did we start keeping regular records of weather, accurate or not? Were there monks who kepts logs, even without measuring devices, "it's hot today, it's cold today, it snowed today, etc."? My understanding is that weather "records" go back about 125 years at this point. I'm happy to be enlightened by any knowledgable freepers out there.

17 posted on 04/06/2003 12:06:58 PM PDT by jocon307 (The weather, everyone talks about it, no one does anything about it!)
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Re: Global Warming: Medieval Era Hotter than Today

Which explains:


"One more 'Are we there yet?'
and I'm going medieval on your a$$!"

Want a break from war news? Go to the Stark Trek Freeper Post or the New Stark Trek Website for a laugh or two. Then come back refreshed and loaded for bear!

19 posted on 04/06/2003 12:16:45 PM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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Memo to Al Gore and the Green Party

I'm quite certain the warming during this period was due to the heavy reliance on 4 Leg drive vehicles, commonly referred to then as HUV's (horse utility vehicles).

In addition the extreme use of wood burning for heat and cooking could have easily been avoided and saved the planet. Then again, its still here.....go figure.

20 posted on 04/06/2003 12:27:47 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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"He added that there were also doubts about the reliability of temperature proxies such as tree rings: "They are not able to capture the recent warming of the last 50 years," he said."

Could it possibly be that the reason they don't is that there really hasn't been any warming in the last fifty years?
22 posted on 04/06/2003 12:54:30 PM PDT by chaosagent
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Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.

See Thomas Gale Moore's Global Warming: a Boon for Humans and Other Animals and other papers on the site at the Hoover Institution for more on this. The Medieval Climate Optimum didn't occur simultaneously throughout the world. As it occurred, civilization flourished from Europe to China.
25 posted on 04/06/2003 1:32:21 PM PDT by aruanan
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I have known this for a long time.

This is hardly a new revelation, though this article tries to make it sound like it.
27 posted on 04/06/2003 1:42:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.

This is not new research!!! After about a helf dozen paragraphs on the global warming crap, the reader is finally told that this new research is ...

[a] review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's temperatures are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they producing the most extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the environmentalists.

28 posted on 04/06/2003 2:07:27 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const vector<tags>& theTags)
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Middle Ages Were Warmer Than Today, say Scientists
30 posted on 04/06/2003 2:26:18 PM PDT by blam
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Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.

Its f***ing April and there is snow on the ground here. We really need to increase greenhouse gas production in this country.

33 posted on 04/06/2003 3:35:45 PM PDT by weikel (Ever notice how the Paleos and the Dem/Commies have the same talking points on the Iraq war)
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There you go...
Screwing up the pinko-commie-green-socialist massive-government-expansion agenda...by quoting
facts.

The inuendo, ignorance and outright lies of the
howling left-wing mob have been good enough for
them so far.

Why confuse the morally-bankrupt weak-minded
loonies with facts?
34 posted on 04/06/2003 4:48:53 PM PDT by TheJollyRoger (After we re-elect George W. Bush...lets impeach Hitlery!)
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None of this matters one iota. The environmentalist movement is not a "scientific" movement but a political one. They have been manufacturing or skewing studies to promote their agenda which is the destruction of capitalism and it's associated democracy. Their entire objective is the promotion of socialism on a global scale. They failed in their promotion of "scientific" socialism. Now they are promoting another "scientific" approach towards the same end.

Never mind that socialism is a failed system. Socialists and communists aren't interested in progress, they are interested in control.

39 posted on 04/06/2003 10:03:44 PM PDT by Cacique
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I didn't know there were Republicans to blame for this back then!
40 posted on 04/06/2003 10:33:32 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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Areas throughout the northeaast are expected to get 6-8 inches of snow today.
41 posted on 04/07/2003 7:40:40 AM PDT by jpl
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