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Online petition to save surplus rifles
Save the M-14 surplus ^

Posted on 04/03/2003 9:28:14 PM PST by newyorkronin

US govt to needlessly destroy BRAND NEW, NEVER ISSUED M-14 rifles in inventory. Sign this petition to Congress to sell off rifles to law abiding civilians instead of wasting them.

http://www.petitiononline.com/M14CMP03/


TOPICS: Announcements
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; cmp; dcm; m14; odcmp
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To: Redleg Duke
With appologies I should have referenced post 58, not 48. Thanks.
61 posted on 04/04/2003 9:28:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Redleg Duke
"I have wanted one since I carried one through Basic and AIT in 1965!"

Basic and AIT in 1965!!!! Snikey's

Mr. Redleg Duke Sir

do you fart dust?

<_/GRIN_>

62 posted on 04/04/2003 9:31:56 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Murphy's rules for combat #14 The equipment you are using was made by the lowest bidder!)
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To: DoughtyOne

M-14. Sort of. It's acutally a Fulton Armory M1-A. That is, a rifle made with a new, civilian production, semi-auto only receiver, but otherwise on the same pattern (and with some actual GI parts) as the military M-14.

63 posted on 04/04/2003 9:35:25 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Criminal Bastard #110427)
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To: DoughtyOne
Yep, those are Thompsons. They were the later models that took the stick magazines. The original ones took a 50-round drum with a coil spring you wound to feed the cartridges.
64 posted on 04/04/2003 9:35:28 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: SERE_DOC
I'll have you know sir that today happens to be my 56th Birthday...and my 10-year old son seems to think I am pretty young for my age.

Actually, had I known I was gonna live this long, I'da taken better care of myself! :-)

65 posted on 04/04/2003 9:37:09 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Redleg Duke
Follow the link in #63. Try to refrain from drooling on your keyboard. It shorts out the contacts.
66 posted on 04/04/2003 9:37:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Criminal Bastard #110427)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Well, there goes the mouse too!
67 posted on 04/04/2003 9:39:12 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: SERE_DOC
By the by...when I fart, I devoutly hope it is dust...and not me!
68 posted on 04/04/2003 9:39:50 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Rasputin_TheMadMonk
As I read the petition, they were planning to render the rifles semi-automatic before sale.

That would cut zero ice with the ATF, who have a long-standing policy of "Once a machine gun, always a machine gun." They'd still be considered Class III in the civilian market.

69 posted on 04/04/2003 9:42:23 AM PST by Oberon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: SERE_DOC
I went through basic & jump school in '55, and can still out fart the best of you young whippersnappers.
It's all in the cabbage.
70 posted on 04/04/2003 9:44:18 AM PST by tpaine
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To: DoughtyOne
As I believe you already found out, The sergeant in "Combat" carried a Thompson. The rest of the squad carried M-1 Garands and "Little John" carried a BAR[Browning Automatic Rifle].

No M-14's were used in the program. The major differences between the two rifles is the designers moved the gas system from the end of the barrel and added a box magazine to the M-14 which were major improvements.

Just to throw out a little confusion, the designation of M is just the first Military plan that was approved. The helmets, canteens and hate to tell you this, but the Thompson machine gun also was titled an M-1. Later there was an M1A1 Thompson.

Paratroopers, drivers, officers and support troops carried the M-1 Carbine. I found we produced more M-1 Carbines than any other weapon in history. My book that reports that is a little old and I'm sure by now, the M-16 had surpassed that.
71 posted on 04/04/2003 9:47:04 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: chuckles
I guess if I had been forced marched 10 miles with full gear and a 14, maybe I would feel different

6 miles was enough to make me never want to see a 14 again. Knowing I wouldn't have to try that agin, I would like to own one now.

72 posted on 04/04/2003 9:51:01 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: Redleg Duke; ArrogantBustard
Thanks guys. I appreciate it, but my boyhood dreams are now shattered. LOL Take care.

The Thompson 45 has always been a very good looking weapon to me. I appreciate knowing it's proper identity.

I'm not sure where I picked up the wrong name. It could have been an early media misidenfication circa the erra of that show.

73 posted on 04/04/2003 9:51:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: tpaine
WOW 55 did they have parachutes way back then and did the Army have their own silk worms? and what was it like actually firing a catapult?
74 posted on 04/04/2003 9:52:43 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Murphy's rules for combat #14 The equipment you are using was made by the lowest bidder!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I was aware Little John's weapon was a BAR. That looked pretty wicked. I was unaware of the other information. Thanks for the comments. This is what I like about the forum, there's always someone around who knows the answers to participant's questions.
75 posted on 04/04/2003 9:54:13 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Redleg Duke
Happy birthday "Great warrior" I salute your service and your keeping the promise to America. I pray that your son turns out like you.

Semper Fi

Sere Doc

76 posted on 04/04/2003 9:58:26 AM PST by SERE_DOC (Murphy's rules for combat #14 The equipment you are using was made by the lowest bidder!)
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To: DoughtyOne
This is what I like about the forum, there's always someone around who knows the answers to participant's questions.
-DO-


Or ~claims~ to know...

Ordinary grunt 'paratroopers', -- regular airborne infantry line company troops, carried the Garand until the M14 was issued.
Officers, support personel, etc, could carry the M1 Carbine.
77 posted on 04/04/2003 10:07:27 AM PST by tpaine
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To: N. Theknow
Thanks. Check down farther in the thread to see a discussion on this topic. You seem to be correct, in that it was a Thompson 45, according to other posters. Take care.
79 posted on 04/04/2003 10:11:54 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Of course it sounds like it was the M-1 you picked up since it weighed 9.1 pounds.
80 posted on 04/04/2003 10:12:17 AM PST by N. Theknow
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