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Professor Nicholas DeGenova: Are You Hoping My Son in Law Dies?
dfu | 3-30-03 | dfu

Posted on 03/30/2003 12:33:09 PM PST by doug from upland

E-MAIL TO PROF. NICHOLAS DEGENOVA, Columbia University Asst. Prof. of Anthropology:

Professor DeGenova, I would appreciate an answer to this communication. I want to briefly introduce you to my son-in-law Josh who is currently serving in the Middle East helping to defend the freedom of the United States. He is 22 years old, and my little girl misses him terribly. It is a great sacrifice for both of them. He is patriotic, dedicated, a hard worker, and has just signed up for another three years.

You have been quoted as recently saying, "I wish for a million Mogadishus." Since I have not heard a retraction, I presume the quote is accurate.

I do not usually take personally the statements of those who oppose the current war. We all have our viewpoint. Josh is proud to defend yours, unless, of course, the viewpoint includes advocating the violent death of Americans.

Let me put in bluntly. Is Josh among those whom you wish dead? Would you take joy in watching his body mutilated and dragged through the streets of Baghdad? If not him, whose sons and daughters do you wish would suffer the fate of the men who were mutilated in Mogadishu?

Professor, you have a short window of opportunity to take back your statement and issue an apology. I hope you will be man enough to do it.

I wish no harm to you and your family as you apparently wish to Josh, my family, and all those serving and their families. What action will be taken should you refuse, I do not yet know, but you have made this personal.

Please do the right thing.

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I don't know where this will go, but it cannot stand. Columbia receives federal government funds. Those funds should cease until he is fired. He has the freedom of speech to say what he wants, but advocating the death of Americans during time of war should have consequences.

Will someone please provide info regarding the university's major donors?

Perhaps NY FReepers might want to FReep him in person.

Letters to the editor certainly need to be written.

Maybe an ad can be placed in the school newspaper that shows bodies being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu.

Perhaps his neighbors and every veteran's organization in the area need to see his words in print on a flyer.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: columbia; degenova; treason
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To: ladyjane
"he got his degree from, of course, University of Chicago"

Ack, of course? what do you mean by this, of course? My brother went there, I thought U Chi was one of the few good ones. I have actually been encouraging my kid to try and get in there for just this reason.

Lady Jane, please explain the "of course"

Signed,
Concerned Parent
41 posted on 03/30/2003 1:33:30 PM PST by jocon307
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To: doug from upland
Professor DeGenova deserves to be fragged.
42 posted on 03/30/2003 1:35:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Time to bomb Saddam!)
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To: AAABEST
Thanks for posting this, but could someone give me
Professor de Genova's email? He needs to be harassed
constantly until he makes the right decision and
resigns.
43 posted on 03/30/2003 1:41:39 PM PST by t_watson
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To: doug from upland
Nice job, Dougie -- keep us informed if the idiot responds...
44 posted on 03/30/2003 1:43:51 PM PST by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: doug from upland
bump to read later...
45 posted on 03/30/2003 1:45:56 PM PST by firewalk
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To: t_watson
npd18@columbia.edu
46 posted on 03/30/2003 1:47:44 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: TLBSHOW
I referred to Josh (not by name) when I had the opportunity ask our president a question at the Town Hall Meeting in January 2002 in Ontario, CA. If any of you were not here at the time, HERE ARE THE COMMENTS.

William Rivers Pitt, in a Freepmail to me, accused me of making him up.

47 posted on 03/30/2003 1:56:49 PM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 7 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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To: doug from upland
I just sent an email asking if I need to get a restraining order to protect my family from the idiot leftists there. I got this in response:

I will be out of the office until March 22, 2003.
Your mail will be read and answered when I return.

Best,

Jonathan R. Cole

The moron hasn't turned off his away message in a week. Losers.

48 posted on 03/30/2003 2:00:23 PM PST by gcraig
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To: doug from upland
This kind of ignorant trash that flows out of their disturbed mouths is typical but still remains reprehensible coming out from the Academic Left wing of the universities.

What is most disturbing is that these mandarins continue to teach given that they are neither knowledgeable nor interested in learning objective facts about the world and are more concerned about pandering their shortsighted intellectual lameness to all sorts of disturbed individuals.

There is a pathology here folks...it's not just about right VS left politics. Unfortunately, many universities have succumbed to the Left wing of academia abrogating their responsibilites to the leftist unionists controlling many universities and publishers today. The ghosts of the Soviet Communists have not given up...

49 posted on 03/30/2003 2:01:31 PM PST by eleni121
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To: doug from upland
...he has the freedom of speech to say what he wants, but advocating the death of Americans during time of war should have consequences....

Damn right.

Great letter, Doug. It is sickening to think that families of servicemen and women are having their fears added to by traitors like Degenova. Thanks so much for all you do.

50 posted on 03/30/2003 2:19:46 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: doug from upland
Doug-

One of the Trustees:

CHARLES M. METZNER
Senior United States District Judge
U.S. District Court

Maybe you should contact him and see if he stands by what De Genova said.....could be VERY interesting!!!!!

51 posted on 03/30/2003 2:22:15 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: ladyjane; doug from upland
If Freepers really want to get this @sshole dismissed from Columbia in a hurry, contacting the president of the school and/or the trustees wouldn't be nearly as effective as having some conservative business owners take ads out in a few major newspapers, announcing that no Columbia graduates will be hired by your company until he is fired.
52 posted on 03/30/2003 2:22:47 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: doug from upland
Great reply, more civilized than mine would be.

When will the line be finally crossed when we can call these people on the crime they are committing of treason, aid and comfort to the enemy? At some point they and their ilk must cross a definable line. Wish I knew when.

It seems like a huge step to actually prosecute the "mother of all crimes." with not much inbetween, hence Hanoi Jane.

I gather the individual is a bona fide citizen so he couldn't be booted out.
53 posted on 03/30/2003 2:41:12 PM PST by 8mmMauser
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To: doug from upland; LindaSOG
Great letter, Doug. Here's the text of mine:

Professor DeGenova --

I would like to introduce you to my son-in-law, a reservist in the Navy who was activated a week after 9/11.

He is currently on active duty with the Marine Corps somewhere in Iraq. My daughter (his wife) is at home taking care of three children by herself, the youngest of which is a one-month-old baby girl. I've forwarded her your remarks, and I'm sending her the text of this email, along with the sure and certain knowledge that you want her husband dead, and her children to be orphans.

I'm not interested in your free speech, professor. You've gone way over the line in abusing the privilege men like my son-in-law have died to protect. But, your speech is protected, sad to say. No one is coming to silence you. You need fear no knock at your door in the dead of night.

But I hope and pray circumstances work to put you in a country where remarks such as yours against the ruling governmental authority land you at the end of a rope.

Of course it won't happen. You are far too much the self-absorbed narcissist to venture out of your velvet-lined, ivory tower of pure intellectual theory to dirty your hands among the great unwashed masses of the real world. But I just thought I'd call you what you are:

A cringing sneak,
a bold-faced liar,
and a gutless coward.

If the academic community had any integrity, your next career would be pushing a broom in the men's room of Grand Central Station. But it doesn't. All the same an accounting will come. Maybe not in this world, but it will come. And then you get to try to make a case in front of the only judge you won't be able to sidestep.

Here's hoping that day of reckoning will come soon. Especially for the likes of you.

With contempt.

54 posted on 03/30/2003 2:47:57 PM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: doug from upland
Doug, here are the current Trustees & where they work - interesting list!

David Stern (Chair)

David Stern has been the commissioner of the National Basketball Association since February 1, 1984. Mr. Stern began his association with the NBA in 1966 as outside counsel, joined the NBA in 1978 as general counsel and became the league's executive vice president in 1980.

Evan Davis (Vice Chair)

Evan Davis is a partner in the New York law firm of Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton. He is also president of the Association of the Bar of the City of New York.

Michael Patterson (Clerk)

Michael E. Patterson is vice chairman of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. He had previously served as vice chairman of the board, chief administrative officer, executive vice president.

Lee C. Bollinger (President of the University)

José A. Cabranes

José A. Cabranes is a Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, to which he was appointed in 1994. He had previously served for 15 years as a United States District Judge for the District of Connecticut, the final two years as its Chief Judge.

William V. Campbell

Mr. Campbell is chairman of the board of directors of Intuit, Inc.

Stephen Case

Stephen Case is a partner in the New York law firm of Davis Polk & Wardwell.

John Chalsty

Retired

Ellen Oran Kaden

Ellen Kaden is senior vice president, law and government affairs at Campbell Soup Company

Robert Kraft

Robert Kraft is Founder and Chairman of the Kraft Group of Companies based in Boston, Mass

Marilyn Laurie

Marilyn Laurie recently retired as executive vice president of brand strategy and advertising at AT&T >

H.F. (Gerry) Lenfest

Gerry Lenfest is president of Lenfest Communications, a company principally involved in national satellite promotion of cable programming, digital satellite distribution, and cable advertising and market promotion.

Philip L. Milstein

Philip Milstein is president and a member of the board of directors of Emigrant Savings Bank

Joan Edelman Spero

In 1993, President Clinton appointed her to the U.S. Department of State as under secretary of economic, business, and agricultural affairs. She played a central role in formulating the administration's foreign economic policy. She also served as a top advisor on the G7 economic summits.

Savio Tung

Tung is a management committee member with the investment firm Investcorp International Inc., where he oversees the firm's global technology and telecommunication investment activities.

George Van Amson

Mr. Van Amson is an executive director and sales trading manager at Morgan Stanley Inc.

Harold Varmus

Harold Varmus, former Director of the National Institutes of Health and co-recipient of a Nobel Prize for studies of the genetic basis of cancer, has served as the President and Chief Executive Officer of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City since January 2000.

Faye Wattleton

Faye Wattleton is the president of the Center for Gender Equality, a not-for-profit research, policy development and education institution created in 1995 to advance women's equality and full participation in society.

Richard E. Witten

Richard Witten is currently an Advisory Director of Goldman Sachs & Co. in New York City.

Clyde Wu

Dr. Clyde Y. C. Wu, an associate professor of medicine at Wayne State University School of Medicine,

55 posted on 03/30/2003 2:53:32 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: doug from upland
William Rivers Pitt is the one that wrote with Scott Ritter that Saddam wasn't a problem and we should just let the UN do the inspections.

Nit Wits and Commies all of them.........

56 posted on 03/30/2003 3:01:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: doug from upland
Way to go, Doug! His comrades may seek to turn him into a "First Amendment martyr," but at this point, all that would do is help galvanize an outraged citizenry.
57 posted on 03/30/2003 3:13:12 PM PST by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Hobsonphile
Thanks for the ping!
58 posted on 03/30/2003 3:17:26 PM PST by mrustow (no tag)
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To: doug from upland; KC_Conspirator
Thank you for the Prager info, Doug. Let's hope others jump on it, too.

Do you mean that an NYU professor can possibly express anti-Jewish attitudes and remain in his position in a city where I thought there are supposed to be more Jewish residents than there are in Israel?
59 posted on 03/30/2003 3:21:35 PM PST by Spirited
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To: doug from upland
I sent a letter to Columbia U yesterday after hearing about this on FR. We all should. Thanks.
60 posted on 03/30/2003 3:24:48 PM PST by perfect stranger (I like to leave this area blank.)
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