Posted on 03/30/2003 5:42:07 AM PST by LadyDoc
War in the Gulf. What the Pope Really Said We know well that peace is not possible at any price. But we all know how great is this responsibility.... John Paul II. The true story of a condemnation that never took place ............(s.m.) ROMA - Theres war in Iraq. A war strongly opposed up to the last minute by the Catholic Church. Opposed but never condemned, judging by what was said by its supreme authority, the pope.
The media have not been clear about this lack of condemnation. They have almost always reported John Paul IIs words as if they declared an absolute anathema on this war, if not indeed on all wars.
But there isnt a trace of this condemnation in any of the frequent, relentless speeches in which the pope has called for peace in Iraq.
To verify this, see John Paul IIs original texts on the theme, carried at the bottom of the page. Ending with the March 19 general audience, the texts stretch back to Jan. 1, the day the Church traditionally dedicates to world peace.
In all of his speeches, the pope preaches peace, presenting it as an absolute imperative and the inescapable horizon of every decision that governments and individuals make. Yet he never goes so far as to define war in Iraq as a crime against peace, as have, for example, two of his aides, Archbishops Jean-Louis Tauran and Renato Martino.
The popes words stand out for the intense religious sense that marks them. Rare and very measured are the passages that he has dedicated to concrete ways for constructing peace in the Gulf. And they have the form of a discourse on method, not of a precept.
Regarding method, one example is the admonition John Paul II gave to the worlds ambassadors Jan. 13:
War cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring the common good, except as the very last option and in accordance with very strict conditions.
And the warning he issued during the March 16 Angelus meditation is also an appeal to make decisions responsibly:
We know well that peace is not possible at any price. But we all know how great is this responsibility.
In these, as in other passages, the pope never excludes war in Iraq from the arc of practicable and just decisions.
But he entrusts that judgment to the consciences and intelligence of each person. The pope shows himself unyielding only on the final horizon of peace, not on the ways for arriving there. And the peace he preaches is essentially that which comes from God.
This is confirmed in the discontent that the papal position has produced among Catholic pacifists.
A good number of them in Italy have written an open letter to John Paul II, saying:
Your Holiness, we ask of you a simple and univocal affirmation that does not leave loopholes for parentheticals and hairsplitting.
This is a sign that, in these pacifists judgment, the popes no to war is not radical without ifs and buts as they would like it to be.
Among the letters signatories are the prior of the Camaldolese Benedictine Abbey of Fonte Avellana, Alessandro Barban; the president of Beati i costruttori di pace (Blessed Are the Peacemakers), Father Albino Bizzotto; the vice-director of Famiglia Cristiana, Angelo Bertani; missionary Father Alex Zanotelli; non-violence activists Enrico Peyretti and Massimo Toschi; and well-known priests, nuns, and theologians.
The text of the letter is on the Internet with the list of its signers. Heres the link:
> Appello al papa
And here follows a faithful anthology of John Paul IIs comments on the war in the Gulf, with links to the entire speeches:
> General audience of March 19, 2003
May St. Joseph, universal patron of the church, watch over the entire ecclesial community and, man of peace that he was, obtain for all humanity, especially for the peoples threatened in these hours by war, the precious gift of harmony and peace.
> Angelus of March 16, 2003
I wish to renew an urgent appeal to intensify the commitment to prayer and penance, to invoke from Christ the gift of his peace. There is no peace without conversion of heart.
The next few days will be decisive for the outcome of the Iraqi crisis. Let us pray, then, that the Lord inspire in all sides of the dispute courage and farsightedness.
The political leaders of Baghdad certainly have the urgent duty to collaborate fully with the international community to eliminate every reason for armed intervention. To them I direct my urgent appeal: the fate of your fellow-citizens should always have priority.
But I would also like to remind the member countries of the United Nations, and especially those who make up the Security Council, that the use of force represents the last recourse, after having exhausted every other peaceful solution, in keeping with the well-known principles of the U.N. Charter.
That is why, in the face of the tremendous consequences that an international military operation would have for the population of Iraq and for the balance of the Middle East region, already sorely tried, and for the extremisms that could stem from it, I say to all: There is still time to negotiate; there is still room for peace, it is never too late to come to an understanding and to continue discussions.
To reflect on one's duties, to engage in energetic negotiations does not mean to be humiliated, but to work with responsibility for peace [ ].
I belong to that generation that lived through World War II and, thanks be to God, survived it. I have the duty to say to all young people, to those who are younger than I, who have not had this experience: No more war, as Paul VI said during his first visit to the United Nations. We must do everything possible. We know well that peace is not possible at any price. But we all know how great is this responsibility. Therefore, prayer and penance.
> Angelus of March 9, 2003
As todays Gospel (Mk 1:12-15) suggests, during the forty days of Lent believers are called to follow Christ into the desert, in order to confront and defeat with Him the spirit of evil. This is an interior battle, upon which the concrete organization of ones life depends. It is, in fact, from the heart of man that his intentions and actions are unleashed (c.f. Mk 7:21), and therefore it is only by purifying his conscience that he prepares the way for justice and peace, on both a personal and a social level.
In the current international context, it is clearly more urgent that man purify his conscience and convert his heart to true peace. In that regard, the image of Christ unmasking and defeating the lies of Satan with the power of the truth contained in the Word of God is more eloquent than ever. The voice of God resounds in the depths of each person but so do the allurements of the evil one. The latter seeks to deceive man, seducing him with prospects of illusory goods, in order to lead him away from the true good, which consists in fulfilling the divine will. But humble and trusting prayer, reinforced by fasting, permits him to overcome even the most difficult trials, and imparts the courage necessary to combat evil with good. Thus Lent becomes a profitable time of spiritual training.
> Angelus of March 2, 2003
This year, we will undertake the penitential journey toward Easter with a stronger commitment to prayer and fasting for peace, which is endangered by growing threats of war. Already last Sunday I had the chance to announce this initiative, which is meant to involve the faithful in fervent prayer to Christ, the Prince of Peace. Peace, in fact, is a gift of God that must be invoked with humble and insistent trust. Without giving up in the face of difficulties, we must seek out and follow every possible way of avoiding war, which always results in sorrow and grave consequences for all.
> Angelus of February 23, 2003
For months, the international community has been living in great apprehension of the danger of war, which could unsettle the entire Middle East and aggravate the tensions that unfortunately are already present at the beginning of the third millennium. The believers of all religions must proclaim that we can never be happy if we are in conflict with one another; the future of humanity can never be assured by terrorism and the logic of war.
We Christians, in particular, are called to be the guardians of peace, in the places where we live and work. We are asked, that is, to keep watch, that our consciences may not give in to the temptations of egoism, deceit, and violence.
I therefore invite all Catholics to dedicate with particular intensity March 5, Ash Wednesday, to prayer and fasting for peace, especially in the Middle East.
> Angelus of February 9, 2003
At this time of worldwide concern, we all feel the need to present ourselves to the Lord to implore the great gift of peace. As I set forth in the Apostolic Letter Rosarium Virginis Mariae, The grave challenges confronting the world at the start of this new Millennium lead us to think that only an intervention from on high...can give reason to hope for a brighter future (No. 40). Many prayer initiatives are springing up these days, in various parts of the world. While I give these my wholehearted support, I invite all to take up the rosary to invoke the intercession of the Most Holy Virgin.
> Speech to the worlds ambassadors, January 13, 2003
"No to war! War is not always inevitable. It is always a defeat for humanity. International law, honest dialogue, solidarity between States, the noble exercise of diplomacy: these are methods worthy of individuals and nations in resolving their differences. I say this as I think of those who still place their trust in nuclear weapons and of the all-too-numerous conflicts which continue to hold hostage our brothers and sisters in humanity. At Christmas, Bethlehem reminded us of the unresolved crisis in the Middle East, where two peoples, Israeli and Palestinian, are called to live side-by-side, equally free and sovereign, in mutual respect. Without needing to repeat what I said to you last year on this occasion, I will simply add today, faced with the constant degeneration of the crisis in the Middle East, that the solution will never be imposed by recourse to terrorism or armed conflict, as if military victories could be the solution. And what are we to say of the threat of a war which could strike the people of Iraq, the land of the Prophets, a people already sorely tried by more than twelve years of embargo? War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations. As the Charter of the United Nations Organization and international law itself remind us, war cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring the common good, except as the very last option and in accordance with very strict conditions, without ignoring the consequences for the civilian population both during and after the military operations.
> Angelus of January 1, 2003
How can I not express again the hope that leaders will do everything possible to find peaceful solutions for the many tensions in the world, in particular in the Middle East, avoiding further suffering for those already sorely tried populations? May human solidarity and law prevail!
> Homily of January 1, 2003
The Message for the World Day for Peace this year recalls the encyclical Pacem in Terris, at the fortieth anniversary of its publication [ ]. When it was written, threatening clouds were gathering on the horizon of the world, and the nightmare of nuclear war weighed upon humanity. My venerable predecessor [ ] pointed forcefully to truth, justice, love, and freedom as the four pillars upon which to build a lasting peace. His teaching is still relevant [ ]. In the face of the current conflicts and the threatening tensions of this moment, I again invite all to pray that peaceful means of resolution may be sought, means inspired by the desire for fair and constructive agreement, in harmony with the principles of international law.
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"legitimate defence can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life, the common good of the family or of the State".( Unfortunately it happens that the need to render the aggressor incapable of causing harm sometimes involves taking his life. In this case, the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose action brought it about, even though he may not be morally responsible because of a lack of the use of reason.
This morning I find this article, which points out the error in my perception as to where the Holy Father stands and what he says.
My apologies to you, dear Pippin, for my thoughtless remark yesterday.
I've already apologized to the Pope.
The times they are confusin'...)
... His [Moussaoui's] possible transfer to a military tribunal reminds us that, regardless of Iraq, we already have a major and just war on our hands, against Islamic terrorists. If there is a significant connection between Iraq and terrorists an attack on Iraq could be justified as an aspect of that just war. [My emphasis]
The "just war" theory is a method of moral reasoning to prevent war and to minimize its effects if it does occur. The requirements for jus ad bellum, justice in going to war, are: proper authority, just cause and right intention. The Catechism lists further details: "[T]he damage inflicted by the aggressor must be lasting, grave and certain;" war must be a last resort, with "all other means impractical or ineffective;" "there must be serious prospects of success;" and "the use of arms must not produce evils graver than the evil to be eliminated." Jus in bello, justice in fighting a war, requires proportionality and discrimination (non-combatant immunity from intentional attack). [Some will say that none of these criteria have been met. I think they have all been met.]
Pope John Paul II has emphasized, with reference to Iraq, that war "is always a defeat for humanity" and cannot be waged "except as the very last option and in accordance with very strict conditions." On Nov. 13, the U.S. Catholic bishops opposed the Iraq war in a major but guarded statement. , [My emphasis] They affirmed the fact-dependent nature of the just war criteria and the deference owed to the government's evaluation. The bishops said
"We offer not definitive conclusions, but our serious concerns and questions. People of good will may differ on how to apply just war norms especially when the facts are not altogether clear. [My emphasis] Based on the facts that are known to us, we find it difficult to justify the war against Iraq, lacking clear and adequate evidence of an imminent attack of a grave nature."But then the bishops conceded:
"There are no easy answers. Ultimately, our elected leaders are responsible for decisions about national security." [My emphasis]Similarly, the Catechism notes that the "evaluation" of the conditions for a just war "belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good." [My emphasis]
A preventive war is not intrinsically wrong, but it is more difficult to justify. It is debatable whether the administration has disclosed convincing evidence that Iraq aids, or is about to aid, the terror network or that Iraq is an imminent threat to the United States. But, as the bishops implicitly acknowledge, the public does not have a right to disclosure of facts where that would be contrary to national security. The governmental decisions here are entitled to the benefit of the doubt [My emphasis] up to a point of incredibility that does not appear to have been reached in this case. One factor is that we no longer have an adjudicated liar in the White House. [Hah!!]
In any event, all of this shows the wisdom of the framers of the Constitution in putting the decision on declaring war in the hands of Congress rather than in one man. The President has a war power, to enable him, as James Madison said, "to repel sudden attacks." [My emphasis] Congress, unwisely but probably validly, has authorized the President to decide whether to make war on Iraq. So war or peace will be decided by one man.
I think Prof Rice's evenhanded and thoughtful words exhaust the topic.
Of all the world leadership figures, I feel most reverence and respect for John Paul II and what he has to say.
These past weeks, I've misread what he says, being lazy in thought, and too easily influenced by what the 'news' says he says.
I thought I disagreed with him on this war issue. I find now that I have agreed all along.
He charts a wise course through troubled seas.
Thanks again, for helping to lift my own fog of war.
Me, too. Seeing him in Toronto last summer is something I will never forget. Called to mind Stalin's quip, "How many divisions does the Pope have?" Quite a few, I decided, after looking around the park in Toronto.
It also reminded me of some graffiti I saw in college, which went
God is dead. -- Nietsche
Nietsche is dead. -- God
All the various socialisms have run their course, and the office of the pope has outlasted them all.
One of the most moving photos ever was the one of him in Ali Adja's cell, conveying forgiveness, and having a little heart to heart, with the man who shot him.
Apology accepted! :^)
Now I have to apologize to you for jumping on you like I did.
In all this run up to the war, the only argument against it I have given any credence to was what I thought was the Pope's...because I respect him so much, and believe he's wholly devoted to God, as much as any human can be.
So, you prompted me to think twice, and then this article appears, along with a chance to exchange posts with a Freeper who further clarified the issue. All in all, a beneficial experience, and I feel really good about it.
I didn't like to be in opposition to John Paul...and feel stronger in my own outlook, after considering more closely his.
I always love your rants...it's cool when you stand up a little bit riled...)
Thanks again to the warrior-Hobbit...))))
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