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Police told suspects black from very 1st shot fired! (D.C. SNIPER TERROR)
World Net Daily ^ | March 28,2003 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 03/28/2003 5:58:40 AM PST by wgeorge2001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D.C. SNIPER TERROR Police told suspects black from very 1st shot fired Eyewitness to Michaels store window shooting also described getaway car

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: March 28, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Paul Sperry © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

ASPEN HILL, Md. – Just hours after the Beltway snipers shot out a crafts store window here, kicking off a three-week rampage, a pizza delivery man on shift next to the store told local police he saw two short-haired black males leave the scene – laughing and "high-fiving" each other – in a dark, older-model car, WorldNetDaily has learned.

Yet the sniper task force, led by Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, ignored the early eyewitness account and focused instead on a white suspect in a white vehicle, according to MCPD investigators, who are now speaking out about what they call racially correct "tunnel vision" during the nation's largest manhunt.

Chief Charles Moose

The snipers shot out a window at a Michaels craft store here in Aspen Hill at 5:20 p.m. on Oct. 2. About 45 minutes later, they shot and killed a 55-year-old man in a grocery store parking lot in nearby Wheaton, Md. He was the first of the snipers' 13 victims.

Suspecting the Michaels shooting was connected, one of Moose's homicide detectives canvassed the shopping center there, a senior investigator says. He took a statement from a Papa John's Pizza employee working two doors down from Michaels, who said he heard the rifle report and turned to see "two black males with short hair" driving slowly away in a dark-colored "beat-up vehicle," the source said.

The witness told the detective the men were "laughing and high-fiving themselves" as they left the parking lot, according to the investigator, who requested anonymity. The car then sped up as it exited the parking lot, as if "fleeing the scene," as the witness reportedly put it.

The detective filed a written report with headquarters, but the eyewitness statement was buried, department sources say.

The manager of the Papa John's store in Aspen Hill yesterday confirmed that one of his drivers, Steve Cribbin, witnessed the snipers leave the parking lot the evening of Oct. 2.

"He said he heard the shot and he saw a car kind of speeding out of the parking lot," manager James Colston told WorldNetDaily.

John Allen Muhammad, 42, and Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, both black, were arrested in the murder spree on Oct. 24, while sleeping at a rural Maryland rest area. They were in a dark blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.

John Lee Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo

Some Montgomery county police officers charge that Moose was reluctant to release the suspects' race throughout the manhunt, because he had agreed with the Justice Department to end racial profiling in the county in 2000. Moose, who has blamed "systemic racism" for what he calls an "overrepresentation" of blacks on death row, also ended racial profiling in Portland, Ore., when he served as that city's police chief.

"Moose didn't want his officers stopping every black in Montgomery County," said one officer who worked on the investigation. "Of course, it was OK to stop every white in a white box truck."

The officer, who wished to remain nameless, says he knows that Moose personally was aware of the descriptions of Muhammad and Malvo as early as Oct. 21, the day before they took their last victim, a bus driver in Aspen Hill.

"Once he had the info, he didn't disclose it, and Conrad Johnson, the last victim, was killed," he said.

Moose has been working closely with Johnson's family to lobby state lawmakers for even tougher gun laws in Maryland.

Moose was positive enough about at least Muhammad's identity that he secretly dispatched a team of undercover agents, led by a Special Investigations Division commander, to stake out Muhammad's ex-wife's house two days before he was captured, as WorldNetDaily first reported. Moose swore the agents to secrecy, and he didn't release a look-out bulletin for Muhammad or Malvo with their physical descriptions for another 24 hours.

Police union officials recently complained in salary arbitration hearings with the county that Moose jeopardized investigators' and patrol officers' safety by withholding the descriptions, as WorldNetDaily also exclusively reported.

"Shame on him. Shame on him and everyone else who knew the look-out and kept it from investigators and patrol officers," another officer said in an internal police department e-mail obtained by WorldNetDaily. "Thank the heavens God was looking out for us, because Moose and his cronies were not."

The same officer called Moose a "self-promoting clown."

A Montgomery County ethics panel ruled last week that the 49-year-old chief cannot cash in on his role in the sniper manhunt with planned book and movie deals.

Moose did not respond to both verbal and written requests for an interview, which were made before he was called early last week to active duty with the U.S. Air National Guard.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; maryland; montgomerycounty; moose; paulsperry; sniper
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To: mountaineer
I'm surprised how quickly everyone on this thread is jumping on Moose. Hindsight's great. But I'd like to know why the supposed snipers were high-fiving after hitting nothing but a store window, when it's obvious they wanted to kill. And if this witness really did see them, then they either 1) shot from the window or outside the car, which apparently wasn't their M.O., or 2) the shooter crawled out of the trunk and over the front seat really quickly before high-fiving.

This doesn't really pass the smell test.

41 posted on 03/28/2003 7:17:20 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: anymouse
Do you think for a moment the Mgr. Moose is going to be anywhere near the fighting.
42 posted on 03/28/2003 7:18:45 AM PST by oyez ( In the rear with the gear)
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To: mountaineer
Moose was the one racial profiling for PC.
43 posted on 03/28/2003 7:20:45 AM PST by JudgemAll
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To: mountaineer
It's not moronic - it's criminal.
44 posted on 03/28/2003 7:26:53 AM PST by fishtank (Resist liberal lies. Prosecute leftist treason.)
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To: aristeides
I said it was a black Mulsim terrorist from day one....

They are the sleepers here,,,,aka Nation of Islam
45 posted on 03/28/2003 7:42:22 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: wgeorge2001

The Chief Moose Fan Club seems to be winding down these days...

46 posted on 03/28/2003 8:13:41 AM PST by NautiNurse (Usama bin Laden has produced more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for the ping. Frustrating is an accurate word.
47 posted on 03/28/2003 8:18:37 AM PST by valleygal
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To: TLBSHOW
I said it was a black Mulsim terrorist from day one.... They are the sleepers here,,,,aka Nation of Islam

From day one I had a bet going with my fifteen-year-old daughter. I said, "I'll bet you five bucks that when they catch the guy his name is Mohammed." She said, "No, I'll bet you his name is Mohammed!" We ended up exchanging five-dollar bills. (Cool kid--turning into such a gun-loving little right-winger, demonstrating against peaceniks, holding down a job, winning ribbons with the horse she gentled and trained, getting good grades, doing historical interpretation, and this fall joining ROTC.)

48 posted on 03/28/2003 8:19:06 AM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: mountaineer
Of course, when political correctness arrived, common sense ran out the back door, never to be heard from again.

PC really sucks, doesn't it?

49 posted on 03/28/2003 8:20:31 AM PST by Mark17
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To: harpseal
I smell a large rat the size of a moose.

Many of us in the area had a sense that Moose wasn't being exactly honest from the beginning. We'd see the guy on TV, and his body language screamed "liar!!!".

50 posted on 03/28/2003 8:23:19 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (What the #@!! is a quagmire, anyway?)
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To: lizma
Anyone around here who was praising him after these guys were caught is an idiot!

Too late for that. He's been in local parades, introduced at NBA basketball games, interviewed ad infinitum in the local area. All media driven.

51 posted on 03/28/2003 8:27:28 AM PST by rabidralph (Very Soon, All Your Base Are Belong To Us)
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To: Coop
But I'd like to know why the supposed snipers were high-fiving after hitting nothing but a store window, when it's obvious they wanted to kill.

Trial run, maybe? I don't know. You raise some good questions.

52 posted on 03/28/2003 8:27:36 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Trial run, maybe? I don't know.

But they had killed in other states, although I think all those murders were with a handgun. But they have been tied (IIRC) to a shooting at a liquor store with the same rifle. Based on what I've read and what I know, I just think this story takes too many liberties.

53 posted on 03/28/2003 8:30:01 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Coop
This doesn't really pass the smell test.

Good point particularly in light of the purported time line described in this story, to wit, when the account was given by the pizza delivery guy to the police which appears to be significantly *after* a shooting where the sniper did hit someone:

Just hours after ... snipers shot out a crafts store window here ... a pizza delivery man on shift next to the store told local police he saw two short-haired black males leave the scene – laughing and "high-fiving" each other

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The snipers shot out a window at a Michaels craft store here in Aspen Hill at 5:20 p.m. on Oct. 2.

About 45 minutes later, they shot and killed a 55-year-old man in a grocery store parking lot in nearby Wheaton, Md.

Could this witness's mind have combined several factors together that were *not* in reality coupled together in time?
54 posted on 03/28/2003 8:36:36 AM PST by _Jim (//NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR\\)
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To: TomServo
Yea. I'dd love to see a movie about him. One that accurately and fairly portrays him for who he is.
55 posted on 03/28/2003 8:39:31 AM PST by m18436572
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To: _Jim
I'm not sure I follow your point. "Just hours after" what? That may be the missing piece that will put everything in place for me, but unless the distance between the two crimes was excessive (and I don't believe it was) it would seem that 45 minutes is enough time for the murderers to do both shootings.
56 posted on 03/28/2003 8:45:00 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: m18436572
One that accurately and fairly portrays him for who he is.

Will never happen.

57 posted on 03/28/2003 8:45:21 AM PST by TomServo
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To: wgeorge2001
"Makes ya sick" bump.
58 posted on 03/28/2003 8:46:48 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: wgeorge2001
I think the sniper case is an excellent example of media bias. If the shooters had been white, right-wing, milita members, gun nuts, NRA members, etc.; the media would have dragged it on for weeks. TIME magazine would have run long-winded soliloquies on the dangers of guns and right-wingers with guns. There would have been a 20/20 specials and internet "in-depth" studies.

But because these two are black muslims, it was dropped like a hot potato.
59 posted on 03/28/2003 8:50:17 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: wgeorge2001
I think the sniper case is an excellent example of media bias. If the shooters had been white, right-wing, milita members, gun nuts, NRA members, etc.; the media would have dragged it on for weeks. TIME magazine would have run long-winded soliloquies on the dangers of guns and right-wingers with guns. There would have been a 20/20 specials and internet "in-depth" studies.

But because these two are black muslims, it was dropped like a hot potato.
60 posted on 03/28/2003 8:50:18 AM PST by jjm2111
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