The Backlash Grows Against Celebrity Activists (Freerepublic mentioned)

This time from Rage against the Machine singer with these words

These are the guys who, while on tour in Mexico, decided to play a benefit concert for the "Zapatistas" in the south of Mexico... They were given 24 hours to get out of the country (according to my cousin, who was on tour with them, working security).

Personally, I never liked RatM, either their politics or their music. Tom Morrello always sounded like he was trying to be Adrian Belew, but just couldn't pull it off.

Of course, there are some who can seperate music and politics: After all, Ted Nugent is a big fan of The MC5, of which RatM is a very poor immatation.

Mark

Exactly. I'm so tired of these boobs who don't have a right to free speech unless everyone agrees with them.

???????????

It's rather refreshing to see someone that is responsive. I'll bet this guy was getting pounded with comments about this. Thanks for the ping.

"Freedom of speech comes with a price, and that price may very well be them not being able to get work. If freedom of speech is important to them they should be willing to sacrifice their popularity for it."

They are not willing to sacrifice anything. Better people are losing thier lives to keep these assholes safe to say what they think.

If it were up to me, and it isn't, These Hollywood dimwits would be air dropped into Iraq. Let's see how much freedom of speech they would have there.

I unfortunately live in his district. I will be stunned if he is held accountable for any of it. He is, after all, a Dem and a friend of Hillary. And this district adores Her.

If the opposition fields more than one individual I will know that it is a planned feat to put him back in office.

"Mike Farrell, the actor who played B. J. Hunnicut on "M*A*S*H" and who is outspoken in support of liberal causes, said such tactics amount to "an orchestrated attempt to undermine free speech and the right to dissent."

So let me see if I have this right. Their tactics are allowed in the interest of free speech, but when we exercise our right to free speech we are undermining theirs? My we ARE powerful aren't we?

The NYT actually provided a link to FR!

"BJ must be referring to the queers that shut down DR Laura."

Oh, but that was different don't you know, becuase "queer" = good; someone who calls a sin a sin = bad.

ditto

if his understanding of free speech is so bad what are we to think of his understanding of the war?

You have a freedom to speak

NOT a right to be HEARD

Who's Smarter?

by Cindy Osborne (unknown to me but I hope correct in the following)

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid", "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to Urban Legends.com and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator. Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.)

She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution.

So, who are these pompous, outspoken celebrity critics?

What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their education and background:

Barbra Streisand Completed High School Career: Singing and acting

Cher Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting

Martin Sheen Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton Career: Acting

Jessica Lange Dropped out college mid-freshman year Career: Acting

Alec Baldwin Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal Career: Acting

Julia Roberts Completed High School Career: Acting

Sean Penn Completed High School Career: Acting

Susan Sarandon Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting

Ed Asner Completed High School Career: Acting

George Clooney Dropped out of University of Kentucky Career: Acting

Michael Moore Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

Sarah Jessica Parker Completed High School Career: Acting

Jennifer Anniston Completed High School Career: Acting

Mike Farrell Completed High School Career: Acting

Janeane Garofelo Dropped out of College Career: Stand up comedienne

Larry Hagman Attended Bard College for one year Career: Acting

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, and no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep-seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.

Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his high school diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real.. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.

"Yet this poor, wounded and washed up "actor" gives no thought to the American blood he is spilling by giving aid and comfort and encouragement to Saddam's murderous regime"

Kinda ironic isn't it, when you consider that his only claim to fame was his role in the long-running M.A.S.H. series. What was it...about 10 years?

"Our power GROWS."

Indeed. I like this part:

"Simon Renshaw, the manager of the Dixie Chicks, said the backlash against the band was not a spontaneous, widespread outburst, but instead was led by a small group of activists, beginning with Freerepublic.com. Mr. Renshaw said the phenomenon even has a name — getting "freeped," slang for being deluged with angry e-mail messages from users of the site. He said the band's Web site and e-mail server crashed because of the traffic."

Good job FReepers!

"The morning-drive talk-show guys — they get a few e-mails and phone calls, then they jump on it," Mr. Renshaw said. "They get a few people incensed and the whole thing starts to snowball. Snowball it has."

Isn't that a fair description of how liberal whiners get their own element to jump on board the empty headed issue du jour? They don't have talk radio, but they do have their well placed henchmen. (Excuse me, that should be henchpersons.)

"I wonder how Farrell feels about the Colonists' organized boycott against the different products they were being taxed upon by the British, leading up to the Boston Tea Party?"

Wasn't Farrell a high school dropout? what are the chances he ever heard of the Boston Tea Party? Probably thinks its the name of a band.

Great article. Do you have a link?

Great article!

That Graphic was done by a fellow Freeper, his name is Longfellow. Check out his site at www.ultimateamerican.com
The guy can flat out draw, world class!

WAY TO GO FREE REPUBLIC BUMP!

"Needs looking into but I beleive they go by scaned sales each week!"

Did people go out and buy them so they could take them to radio station protests?

What are the chances (Mike Farrell) ever heard of the Boston Tea Party? Probably thinks its the name of a band.

If indeed he thinks at all.