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FREEPERS...Need to support movie GODS AND GENERALS

Posted on 02/25/2003 6:10:50 AM PST by Gopher Broke

Below is a note from Howard Phillips on this great movie...I plan to see it this weekend. My friends tell me this movie is EXCELLENT

The Liberal media HATES this movie because it shows soldiers praying and reading the Bible....so we need to SUPPORT IT!

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As some of you know, I was involved with the premiere of "Gods and Generals" here in Richmond thru the Museum of the Confederacy. I am sending along this comment, with a hope that you will take in the film. The liberal press has already bashed it, and unless there is good attendance this week, you will not see it on the big screen!

Barton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear friend,

If you are like me, you seldom go to the movies.

This weekend, I urge you to make an exception, so that you will be among the first to see the greatest American history movie ever made - - - "Gods and Generals".

It is important that you see the movie this weekend, because next week it may be gone.

That's because in this age of moral corruption, gratuitous violence, and degrading, profane "music", there may not be much of an audience for "Gods and Generals"- - - in which case theater managers will pull it in favor of a more lucrative production.

"Gods and Generals" is an historically accurate account of America's Civil War, in which Southerners waged their "Second War of Independence" - - - led by General Robert E. Lee, who was, by marriage, a descendant of General George Washington, the man who led the rebel forces against King George III after the colonies had declared themselves to be free and independent states.

General Lee is faithfully portrayed in "Gods and Generals" by one of America's greatest actors, Robert Duvall - - - accompanied by Stephen Lang, who brilliantly depicts General Stonewall Jackson, a great Christian man whose strategic genius is still studied at military training institutes all over the world.

Carrying out Abraham Lincoln's orders to "preserve the Union" by invading the Southern states, is Colonel Joshua Chamberlain of Maine, played by Jeff Daniels. Mira Sorvino delivers a great performance as Mrs. Chamberlain (even as Kali Roca gives life to Mrs. Anna Jackson).

There are other memorable characterizations by Brian Mallon as General Winfield Scott Hancock, by Bruce Boxleitner as General James Longstreet, by Bo Brinkman, by Kevin Conway, and by others.

Some present day politicians have cameo appearances in the film: Senators Phil Gramm of Texas, Robert Byrd of West Virginia, and George Allen of Virginia, as well as Congressmen Dana Rohrabacher of California and Ed Markey of Massachusetts.

American Enterprise Magazine says " 'GODS & GENERALS' is not only the finest movie ever made about the Civil War, it is also the best American historical film. Period."

This movie is highly entertaining - - - but I am writing to you because it is so profoundly educational.

As the father of 6 children, with 14 grandchildren, I know how hard it is to convey the truth in the face of Left-wing media and the inadequacy and misdirection of the government schools. My wife and I are home-schooling parents.

"Gods and Generals" has been a great encouragement to my family and to all of my friends who have seen it.

Virtually every word, every scene in the film, is historically accurate. It is not fiction. You will see how Americans - - - on both sides of the Mason-Dixon line - - - prayed, how they lived, how they fought, and how they sacrificed.

"Gods and Generals" will afford you a greater understanding of American history, of our U.S. Constitution as originally understood, and of our heritage.

That is why, as Chairman of the American History Education Project of the U.S. Taxpayers Institute, a non-profit charitable and educational organization, I am sending this e-mail to you and to others who I am confident will thank me - - - if they follow my advice and see the film - - - this weekend if at all possible.

Please send me a return e-mail after you have seen the film to let me know what you think. I will be grateful for your comments.

With appreciation and best wishes, I am

Sincerely

Howard Phillips Chairman American History Education Project


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1 posted on 02/25/2003 6:10:50 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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To: Gopher Broke; stainlessbanner; l8pilot; 4ConservativeJustices
bump!
2 posted on 02/25/2003 6:14:43 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (kaboom!)
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To: Gopher Broke
Every Confederate soldier was a Democrat. The hatred within the Democratic Party for the UNITED States of America, the Constitution, ands the flag goes back to the 1860s and beyond. See http://www.republicanbasics.com/ to read about a history book from the Republican point of view.
3 posted on 02/25/2003 6:15:27 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Grand Old Partisan
And Lincoln was a lying, white supremecist tyrant.

Have you seen the movie, or do you have a point?

4 posted on 02/25/2003 6:17:31 AM PST by Gurn
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To: PistolPaknMama
Can I take my kids (5 and 7) to see this movie?
5 posted on 02/25/2003 6:17:58 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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To: Gopher Broke
I'm sure it's a great flick, but 4 hour's in a theater?, not likely. I'll wait for the video! Pause button and all that! Blackbird.
6 posted on 02/25/2003 6:19:48 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Gurn
Nearly all U.S. history books for the past 100 years or so have been written by Democrats, so that most people know just the Democrat spin.
7 posted on 02/25/2003 6:20:43 AM PST by Grand Old Partisan
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To: Gopher Broke
I might support this movie but ONLY if the director edits out Mrs. Chamberlain's farewell talk to her hubby. That went on and on and on and on and ate up valuable screen time for no useful purpose.
8 posted on 02/25/2003 6:22:30 AM PST by PJ-Comix (He Who Laughs Last Was Too Dumb To Figure Out The Joke First)
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To: Gopher Broke
Gods and Generals is one of the most inspirational films out of Hollywood to date. It is blessed with excellent flow, four hours flew by, excellent image and sound and some absolutely astounding acting. This film is a classic and I hope that all who love this country will take the four hours out of their schedules to celebrate our heritage.
9 posted on 02/25/2003 6:23:41 AM PST by mict42
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To: Gopher Broke
EXCELLENT movie! - I saw it with my father on opening night. At the very beginning when Lee is in Washington and Loncoln's War Secretary(?) is asking him to invade the South, notice that Lee is asked to fight for the "Central Government." I found that language absolutely chilling.

RE "Some present day politicians have cameo appearances": You can only see Byrd for a flash of a second as some other generals are panned. Look for George Allen way to the right of the screen during the singing of the "Bonnie Blue" (After Ted Turner's cameo lines). I didn't know that Phil Gramm had a cameo so didn't look for him and wouldn't have recognized Dana Rohrabacher or Ed Markey anyway.

Hard to believe that Ted Turner was involved with this, but then again, there was a jab line at "The Republicans little war."

10 posted on 02/25/2003 6:26:21 AM PST by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: BlackbirdSST; mountaineer; folklore
The video is going to be SIX (6) hours, my friend. It is set to include the battle of Antietem and scenes from the Apollo theatre (Martinsburg, WV) with John Wilkes Booth which were left on the cutting room floor.
11 posted on 02/25/2003 6:31:15 AM PST by Xthe17th (FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
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To: Gopher Broke
Gopher,

The production of Gods and Generals was fully funded by Ted Turner. My family will not see it for that reason alone. He could put the entire Living Bible to film and I would have to wonder as to his motives.

Today, we are seeing booming growth in the "Christian economy". We need to be mindful that our focus is on Christ and not the economy.

12 posted on 02/25/2003 6:33:38 AM PST by jriemer
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To: Gopher Broke; Constitution Day; billbears
Haven't seen the movie yet, but I certainly intend to ASAIC.
How about you folk?
13 posted on 02/25/2003 6:34:13 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: PistolPaknMama
I support the movie - it's an honorable production. Thanks Maxwell, Shaara, and Turner.
14 posted on 02/25/2003 6:34:58 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Gopher Broke
I am going to go to http://www.GodsandGenerals.com even though I hate long movies. Frankly, the only way to show Hollywood what to produce is to vote, with our wallets! $8.00 is a small donation to make to attempt to change the course of culture in our country. We are a powerful lobby and we will prove once again that: The conservative audience is the best audience to attract!
15 posted on 02/25/2003 6:35:49 AM PST by TaxRelief (Conservatives supporting conservatism in everyday ways.)
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To: Gurn
And Lincoln was a lying, white supremecist tyrant.

No he wasn't.

I confess that I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes and unwarranted toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continual torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no such interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union."

8/24/54

"If A can prove, however conclusively, that he may, of right, enslave B. -- why not B. snatch the same argument, and prove equally, that he may enslave A.?

-- You say A. is a white, and B. is black. It is --color--, then; the lighter, having the right to enslave the darker? Take care. By this rule, you are to be the slave to the first man you meet, with a fairer skin than your own.

You do not mean color exactly? -- You mean the whites are --intellectually-- the superiors of the blacks, and therefore, have the right to enslave them? Take care again. By this rule, you are to be slave to the first man you meet, with an intellect superior to your own.

But, say you, it is a question of --interest--; and, if you can make it your --interest--, you have the right to enslave another. Very well. And if he can make it his interest, he has the right to enslave you."

1854

My friends, I have detained you about as long as I desired to do, and I have only to say, let us discard all this quibbling about this man and the other man; this race and that race and the other race being inferior, and therefore they must be placed in an inferior position; discarding our standard that we have left us. Let us discard all these things, and unite as one people throughout this land, until we shall once more stand up declaring that all men are created equal."

A. Lincoln, 7/10/58

"I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which in my judgment will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. [Loud cheers.] I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects---certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man."

August, 1858

"I do not expect the Union to be dissolved--I do not expect the house to fall--But I do expect it will cease to be divided. Either the opponents of slavery, will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is the course of ultimate extinctioon; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become alike lawful in all the States, old as well as new--North as well as South. Have we no tendency towards the latter condition?"

1858

"The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society. And yet they are denied, and evaded, with no small show of success. One dashingly calls them "glittering generalities"; another bluntly calls them "self evident lies"; and still others insidiously argue that they only apply to "superior races."

These expressions, differing in form, are identical in object and effect. -- the supplanting the principles of free government, and restoring those of classification, caste, and legitimacy. They would delight a convocation of crowned heads, plotting against the people. They are the van-guard -- the miners and sappers -- of returning despotism. We must repulse them, or they will subjugate us. This is a world of compensations; and he that would -be- no slave, must consent to --have-- no slave. Those that deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves, and under a just God cannot long retain it."

3/1/59

"But to be plain, you are dissatisfied with me about the negro. Quite likely there is a difference of opinion between you and myself upon that subject. I certainly wish that all men could be free, while I suppose that you do not. ....peace does not appear as distant as it did. I hope it will come soon, and come to stay; and so come as to worth the keeping in all future time. It will have then been proved that, among free men, there can be no successful appeal from the ballot to the bullet; and that they who take such appeal are sure to lose their case, and pay the cost. And then, there will be some black men, who can remember that, with silent tongue, and clenched teeth, and steady eye, and well-poised bayonet they have helped mankind on to this great consumation; while, I fear, there will be some white ones, unable to forget that, with malignant heart, and deceitful speech, have strove to hinder it. Still let us not be over-sanguine of a speedy final triumph. Let us be quite sober. Let us dilligently apply the means, never doubting that a just God, in his own good time, will give us the rightful result."

8/23/63

"I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel...

In telling this tale I attempt no compliment to my own sagacity. I claim not to have controlled events, but confess plainly that events have controlled me. Now, at the end of three years struggle the Nation's condition is not what either party, or any man devised, or expected. God alone can claim it. Whither it is tending seems plain. If God now wills the removal of a great wrong, and wills also that we of the North as well as you of the South, shall pay for our complicity in that wrong, impartial history will find therein new cause to attest and revere the justice and goodness of God."

4/4/64

"it is also unsatisfactory to some that the elective franchise is not given to the colored man. I would myself prefer that it were now conferred on the very intelligent, and on those who serve our cause as soldiers."

4/11/65

sources: "Abraham Lincoln, Mystic Chords of Memory" published by the Book of the Month Club, 1984 and:

"Lincoln, Speeches and Writings, 1859-65, Library of the Americas, Don E. Fehrenbacher, ed. 1989

Lincoln clearly was preparing the way for black suffrage.

Consider these letters:

Private

General Hunter

Executive Mansion

Washington D.C. April 1, 1863

My dear Sir:

I am glad to see the accounts of your colored force at Jacksonville, Florida. I see the enemy are driving at them fiercely, as is to be expected. It is mportant to the enemy that such a force shall not take shape, and grow, and thrive, in the south; and in precisely the same proportion, it is important to us that it shall. Hence the utmost caution and viglilance is necessary on our part. The enemy will make extra efforts to destroy them; and we should do the same to perserve and increase them.

Yours truly

A. Lincoln

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Hon. Andrew Johnson

Executive Mansion,

My dear Sir:

Washington, March 26. 1863.

I am told you have at least thought of raising a negro military force. In my opinion the country now needs no specific thing so much as some man of your ability, and position, to go to this work. When I speak of your position, I mean that of an eminent citizen of a slave-state, and himself a slave- holder. The colored population is the great available and yet unavailed of, force for restoring the Union. The bare sight of fifty thousand armed, and drilled black soldiers on the banks of the Mississippi, would end the rebellion at once. And who doubts that we can present that sight, if we but take hold in earnest? If you have been thinking of it please do not dismiss the thought.

Yours truly

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Hon Soc of War

Executive Mansion

Washington

July 21, 1863

My Dear Sir:

I desire that a renewed and vigorous effort be made to raise colored forces along the shores of the Missippi [sic]. Please consult the General-in-chief; and if it is perceived that any acceleration of the matter can be effected, let it be done. I think the evidence is nearly conclusive that Gen. Thomas is one of the best, if not the very best, instruments for this service.

Yours truly

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Lincoln also proposed --privately-- to the new governor of Louisiana that the new state constitution include voting rights for blacks. A year later, in April, 1865 he came out --publicly-- for the suffrage for black soldiers, because his great --political-- skill told him that the time was right.

It was a direct result of this speech, and this position, that Booth shot him.

President Lincoln, besides ordering the army (note that this is only a few months after the EP) to use black soldiers more vigorously, made many public speeches to prepare the people for the idea of black suffrage.

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"When you give the Negro these rights," he [Lincoln] said, "when you put a gun in his hands, it prophesies something more: it foretells that he is to have the full enjoyment of his liberty and his manhood...By the close of the war, Lincoln was reccomending commissioning black officers in the regiments, and one actually rose to become a major before it was over. At the end of 1863, more than a hundred thousand had enlisted in the United States Colored Troops, and in his message to Congress the president reported, "So far as tested, it is difficult to say they are not as good soldiers as any." When some suggested in August 1864 that the Union ought to offer to help return runaway slaves to their masters as a condition for the South's laying down its arms, Lincoln refused even to consider the question.

"Why should they give their lives for us, with full notice of our purpose to betray them?" he retorted. "Drive back to the support of the rebellion the physical force which the colored people now give, and promise us, and neither the present, or any incoming administration can save the Union." To others he said it even more emphatically. "This is not a question of sentiment or taste, but one of physical force which may be measured and estimated. Keep it and you can save the Union. Throw it away, and the Union goes with it."

--"Lincoln's Men" pp 163-64 by William C. Davis

Lincoln's sense of fairness made him seek to extend the blessings of citizenship to everyone who served under the flag.

His great political skill made him realize that blacks --were--not-- leaving -- he played that card and no one was biting, black or white. That being the case, he knew he had to prepare for the future, and that future involved full rights for blacks.

Walt

16 posted on 02/25/2003 6:36:59 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Chamberlin's "Ceasar" speech was campy, too.
17 posted on 02/25/2003 6:37:19 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Gopher Broke
It is amazing that of all people--Ted Turner----has decided to make this film as accurate as possible.

The History channel did a show on this film and for the most part, showed that what is portrayed in the film is as accurate as possible to history.

18 posted on 02/25/2003 6:37:40 AM PST by Radioactive
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Can I take my kids (5 and 7) to see this movie?

You can take them. There is not much blood, certainly no profanity or sex. But there is no way a five-year-old is going to sit still for nearly four hours. You will miss most of the movie taking him out and telling him to sit still and be quiet. My eight-year-old sat through half of it and he is absolutely fascinated by the war (as well as knowing half of the reenactors, since he's a reenactor as well). But two hours was all he could handle. My advice? Leave the kids at home with a sitter and go with your spouse and buddies. There are civilian scenes that are very moving for your wife if she's not interested in the battle scenes.

19 posted on 02/25/2003 6:41:27 AM PST by Capriole (Foi vainquera)
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To: jriemer
I agree with our focus on Christ..... I see very few movies because Hollywood puts out GARBAGE.

I am no fan of Ted Turner...but when the RARE good film with Christian values comes out...Christians need to SUPPORT it...

Hollywood puts out garbage without challenge because we sit at home and wait for the 100% perfect movie...which will NEVER come.

I choose to ACT rather than sit. I believe we need to TAKE BACK our country from the anti-Christian left...and this is just one very small start.

20 posted on 02/25/2003 6:42:44 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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