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1 posted on 02/23/2003 1:58:05 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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Here in Norman, OK, we don't have valedictorians and the speakers are chosen by the class. When my daughter graduated they had 41 students with a 4.0 average that graduated with Honors. Even with Honors classes you cannot make over a 4.0 here.
2 posted on 02/23/2003 2:03:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Bush/Cheney 2004)
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"If they are not number one, it could get their feelings hurt if they are self-motivating and high-achieving students," Black said.

The destruction of publik ejukashun continues as the band plays on.

3 posted on 02/23/2003 2:03:31 PM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Support the handicapped, hire a liberal...)
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To: Indy Pendance
This article contains so many gigantic piles of liberal doltery that I hardly know where to begin. I'm amazed at the extent to which liberals hate individual success, and the extent to which they labor to rationalize mediocrity.
4 posted on 02/23/2003 2:06:11 PM PST by quebecois
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Hey, whinning liberals! Face it. Somebody's got to be the best. Always has been and always will be. Get used to it.
7 posted on 02/23/2003 2:19:50 PM PST by upchuck (Tag Line Removed by Moderator)
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"If they are not number one, it could get their feelings hurt if they are self-motivating and high-achieving students," Black said.

This sounds so clintonesque. Give me a break. What have public schools turned into. They are turning our future adults into a bunch overly sensitive wimps. Just wait until they enter the real world their little "feelings" get hurt. Then again, this IS California, so I really shouldn't be THAT surprised.

These school board officals have NO BACKBONE. Until they get one, all I can do is offer the below.


8 posted on 02/23/2003 2:22:01 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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School board members and Principal Bill Black say that competition makes for an unhealthy educational environment

This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas that I've ever heard. If they think it's not supposed to be competitive in the school environment, God help these students when it comes time to get a job.

9 posted on 02/23/2003 2:24:51 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Take charge of your destiny, or someone else will)
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"Ideally the valedictorian program should recognize the most successful students or student, but at this point we're wondering if it's recognizing the most successful strategist," said Tom DeSantis, Hemet Unified School District board member.

Strategy counts too, you liberal *sshole.

11 posted on 02/23/2003 2:27:23 PM PST by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to)
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That's nuts. When I was in high school, I was the "best speaker", simply by virtue of being the local Saturday afternoon disc jockey at the local radio station (back when they actually WERE records)! Using that logic, I would have been chosen for that spot, when I wasn't number one in the class (I was 25th or so - out of a class of 750).

These hand-wringing morons really get on my last nerve...

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

15 posted on 02/23/2003 2:32:42 PM PST by mhking ("The word is no. I am therefore going anyway..." --Admiral J.T. Kirk)
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But some in Hemet wonder if abolishing the valedictorian award could lead to banning other traditional high school honors, like homecoming queen and team captains.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

16 posted on 02/23/2003 2:37:21 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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I disagree with the policy to the extent it is trying to discourage competition or reward outstanding students.

But I think there is a real problem nowadays with grades. When I was in school, the grading system was very clearcut, class choices were minimal, and I never heard of any kind of gamesmanship when it came to grades. The valedictorian was the best student, and there was no quibbling about it.

Now, there are these very elaborate grading systems, and it's clear that many kids game the system to achieve higher GPAs.
21 posted on 02/23/2003 3:00:29 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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4.6 out of 4.0? Lots of extra credit. Maybe a person needs all that extra credit when it is easy to get a 4.0 in 2003 with respect to the level of difficulty it required in 1950. Another great example of the dumbing down of our kids...school'em to the lowest common denominator.
28 posted on 02/23/2003 8:25:17 PM PST by griffin
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**But some in Hemet wonder if abolishing the valedictorian award could lead to banning other traditional high school honors, like homecoming queen and team captains.**

I think this school district needs to be freeped big time with this question!!

32 posted on 02/24/2003 8:34:42 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Obviously Hannity and O'Reilly have this story. What about Rush and Savage?
33 posted on 02/24/2003 8:36:56 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Hemet, CA isn't near Los Angeles. It's in Riverside County, and is closer to San Diego than LA.

Riverside County is what passes for 'Conservative' in Southern California.

35 posted on 02/24/2003 8:41:47 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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Valedictorian, Salutatorian and Class Superlatives (Most Likely to Succeed, Prettiest, Most Athletic, etc.) were always used as a gauge to see how you compared at Class Reunions.

Valedictorian or Salutatorian were achieved honors. However, one or the other of them was usually elected by their classmates as Most Likely to Succeed. Then at class reunions it usually turned out that in the real world they were incapable of pouring piss out of a boot that had directions printed on the heel.

"Prettiest" and "Most Athletic" usually turned out to be "Most Calorically Endowed" and "Best Beer-Belly".

My class should have had a "Biggest Change From a Wallflower to a Miss VaVoom" category for one of my former classmates. Hardly anyone knew her name or face in school. All the guys knew her name and some even noticed her face at the reunion.

39 posted on 02/24/2003 8:57:52 AM PST by N. Theknow
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I thought this was some kind of satire, especially when I saw the old "it could get their feelings hurt" bit. But then I noticed that it's in L.A.

I'm sure that in time, the NEA will push for a Pass/Fail system, to eliminate all that "unhealthy" competition, but then sooner or later it will occur to them that "it could get their feelings hurt" when some of the kids fail.




44 posted on 02/24/2003 1:14:01 PM PST by Motherhood IS a career
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